FZ50 vs FZ20 [Long review + photos]

DeBilbao

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My brand new Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50 is at home. My first impressions are very, very good and I would like to share them with you, they could be useful to someone in the same crossroad as I’ve already been.

Maybe you’ve read about me going for a D80 + 18/200 VR, a very attractive set with a high price tag – more than 1700 € here – and a great availability problem that at least has let me rethink the situation and going for the evolution of my beloved FZ20.

I know many of the comments about the FZ50 apply to the FZ30 too because it’s an update of it, but since I’ve been using a FZ20 for almost two years this should be more a comparison between the FZ20 and the FZ50.

I’ve bought it on-line for about 500 € (200 € less than the MSRP here in Spain) and I’ve paired it with 2 SD cards. I’ve chosen the 2GB Transcend 150x that for about 50 € each, are reasonably priced. Definitely, RAW shooting and 10 Mpx are space demanding specs, so my old 1 GB cards are capable, but not convenient. Consider this if you upgrade.

A camera could seem very attractive to your eyes, but you don’t really judge it until you hold it and you feel it. It’s inevitable; you’re going to have a first opinion in this moment. The FZ50 is more camera than the FZ20, a bit larger, it really weighs more even though the final weight is acceptable, and you can hold it nicely due to the new grip material for the thumb in the back and the generous and deep grip for your fingers. If you have large hands – like me – you’re going to miss a bit more space in the bottom, because your little finger doesn’t have a place, the grip is not as large as your hand.

I need to make a special mention to the great zoom and focus ring in the lens barrel. This is what really makes the FZ50 completely different shooting experience compared to the FZ20, with a much more reflex-like handling. The manual focus is now usable and the feeling is just precise. If you join this with the two dials in the front and the back of the camera for changing values, and a very useful function button that will let you make ultra fast change of ISO, WB and resolution settings, you get a camera that you can use without keeping your eye off the viewfinder.

The viewfinder is really a huge improvement from the FZ20 and one of the main points in my wish list. The greater resolution makes it very detailed and although we’re not at an optical viewfinder, it’s really usable. It’s also located in a better place and the rubber surrounding it is bigger and thus it’s more comfortable. The only drawback is that being electronic the colors you get in the mini-TFT-screen are not the actual ones, it seems brighter, more contrasted and also more saturated.

But the fact that you can use it anytime with the grid lines activated, so you compose better not forgetting the thirds rule, and at the same time having a live histogram so you don’t burn the highlights make it priceless and a joy to use.

Now the camera turns on quickly and I don’t feel I’m going to miss a shot because of this. Also, because of the zoom ring being in the lens barrel and not having a motor it’s much faster in total time, from when you see the shot, you start up the camera, you zoom in or out, you get it focused and you shoot. I’m more concerned about the fact that the camera strap is now shorter – though wider and more comfortable – and I need some practice to get my arm out of the trap, because I usually wear it crossing my chest.

Talking about focus, now it focuses much faster. There’s a new position for Macro AF that reduces the minimum focal length and I’ve read that you can keep it always on, because there’s only a slight delay compared to normal AF. I need to test it.

I’m not going to talk about the lens. It’s really “the heart” of this camera. Having a stabilized Leica lens with an incredible 35-420 mm focal range, with a luminous f:2.8-f:3.7 aperture that also doesn’t extends when you zoom in is the main reason of remaining in the FZ series. This lens is also really sharp and very detailed. The only drawback is that I find difficult to get nicely blurred backgrounds and not being wider, but I think I can live with this.

The LCD screen is great. Normally I leave it closed, but yesterday I’ve had a situation of shooting some flowers that were located very high. I raised my arms and flipped the screen in a 90 degrees angle, so I had a periscope. Very useful.

The mode dial now seems more pro due to the absence of the pre-programmed scenes. Normally I use the A and S modes, depending on the situation and now with the two dials it’s very easy to change the exposure values, though I would have been better if they were situated in a higher position. I need to force a bit my thumb and index fingers to reach them but I’m sure it’s a matter of time that I get used to it.

Near the mode dial are placed the on-off button – better here than in the back – the continuous shooting set button –I barely use this due to my kind of photos – and the OIS set button, that I would never change though I use Mode 2 always.
 
The navigator button in the back, also used for changing the flash mode, the exposure compensation, the self-timer and the review button has become smaller and is situated differently. I need to get used to this urgently because I use all of them a lot. I specially love the self timer being so easy to access because even with the stabilizer there are low light situations where I use the 2 sec. self timer to avoid blur.

Battery is new and it resides in a different compartment than the SD card. For me is very interesting because I extract the card often and now is more accessible. Battery life was one of the other important things in my wish list and it’s proving really good. Yesterday I got a 100 shot round and it’s almost full. I’ll say after finishing it.

The graphical user interface when browsing is fantastic. A hugh leap from the FZ20 when you have to page 20 pages for looking to a photo located 200 back. This is more convenient but also a battery saver.

I’ve tested the RAW mode and I’m sure it’s a whole new world to discover but I’ve come up with three inconveniences:

1. The file size. 22 MB per photo plus 2.5 MB per JPEG is just too much and almost four times the size of some DSLR camera that I’ve seen.

2. It’s so configurable that you are lost. I know it’s a matter of time to get used to this but I find it very time consuming.

3. My PC asks for an upgrade. It’s a Pentium IV 2.4 GHz with 1 GB RAM and it’s slow moving those files.

Anyway, I know that I’m going to love RAW, it’s just a matter of time. I’ve been playing with the SilkyPix and Adobe Camera RAW 3.5. and I consider them great tools for learning, you can see the effect of under of lots of parameters. It’s like having a photo lab at home.

But I love the Venus Engine III. Maybe the Japanese guy that have programmed it share my taste but I like the JPEGs as they come out from the camera. I need just a few post processing steps. This comes to personal taste, but I use all the picture settings in STD mode with the noise reduction to LOW and images are a bit under saturated, with a bit of low contrast, and a bit soft. Nothing that you cannot adjust with a just a few simple PS actions.

And there is the 10 Mpx size, fantastic for making very usable crops.

Noise is not an issue for me. It’s really there if you push the limits of the camera but up to 400 ISO it’s really nice. I have always the ISO setting at 100 ASA and I don’t move it unless the situation demands it. I don’t like the intelligent ISO’s and alike, I prefer to have the control.

After all, we want a camera for taking the pictures we usually shot, and this little gem is going to be with me for a while. It let me capture nice shots:







Enjoy
 
Bravo Amigo!

Nice out take on the FZ50 as I just got one myself last week and I am also very,very happy with it still learning the curve and furthemore I have seen your pictures now and in the pass you really have a nack my friend thank you for sharing it I will keep waiting for more. Buena Suerte!
Cheers!!
 
Hi DeBilbao,

Your following paragraph sums up exactly how I feel about the Venus III Engine. (I even use the same settings.) Very little post processing is required, sometimes none at all if I 'nail' everything right at the 'moment of capture'. I find it more enjoyable post processing for creative purpose... than having to process to correct for error. The FZ50 delivers the performance I desire, as well as being a pure joy to use.

Enjoyed your review and your images.
But I love the Venus Engine III. Maybe the Japanese guy that have
programmed it share my taste but I like the JPEGs as they come out
from the camera. I need just a few post processing steps. This
comes to personal taste, but I use all the picture settings in STD
mode with the noise reduction to LOW and images are a bit under
saturated, with a bit of low contrast, and a bit soft. Nothing that
you cannot adjust with a just a few simple PS actions.
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Regards,
Kirwin
http://timebandit.smugmug.com
 
The FZ50 was my first Panasonic camera and I'd agree with your comments entirely. I started with all in-camera settings on LOW, but now always use everything on STD except NR on LOW. Maybe shoot 50% jpeg fine and 50% RAW.

One question: are you still going to get the D80 + 18/200 VR? :-)

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Colin
http://www.pbase.com/cdyckes
 
.. I really just can't get past the noise issue.. but that's just for me & my requirements. Congratulations on making a purchase you are happy with.

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Raist3d
Tools/Gui Programmer - vid games industry, photography student
 
Glad to see you are staying with us. Your photos are terrific, you have a great eye.

Keep posting.

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cheers
Rafael
Digital Newbie (FZ30)

 
Thanks to everyone for the comments.

Answering to C Dyckes - and anyone interested - at this moment I'm thinking more in a pocket camera that goes with me anytime than going for the D80 + 18/200 VR.

The Lumix FX01 seems to be a nice choice, greatly priced, really compact and in fact it can resolve the issue of not having the 28 mm. The LX2 is tempting too.

Anyway, i'm not discarding going to the DSLR world, maybe later on...
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The FZ50 was my first Panasonic camera and I'd agree with your
comments entirely. I started with all in-camera settings on LOW,
but now always use everything on STD except NR on LOW. Maybe shoot
50% jpeg fine and 50% RAW.

One question: are you still going to get the D80 + 18/200 VR? :-)

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Colin
http://www.pbase.com/cdyckes
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Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ20
Visit my gallery @ http://www.galeriade.com/DeBilbao
 
With my re-kindled interest in photography, I'm waiting for a good DSLR to go alongside the FZ50 for special shoots and low light, hence my question.

The D80 + 18/200 VR looks a very promising combination (and lens availability general quoted at 4 weeks, though 7days from Ebay sellers in HK)

I think I too will keep waiting for something like an EOS-1DS MarkII (Mark III?) with live preview and articulating LCD. Surely it can't be long before the Canon/Nikon DSLR market realise what a bonus these features would be?

I'm guessing about 2 years from now?

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Colin
http://www.pbase.com/cdyckes
 
I don't know exactly how long we should wait for this, but considering the ultra-fast pace that this market shows, it should be soon, but we will always face the situation with models unreachably priced, tagged for professionals.

Personally, I think that the price of the actual DSLR's are too high. I know that I will go for it, but I'll wait for less price and more specs.

Until then, the FZ50 is the perfect companion, and even then, I'll keep it with me.

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Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ20
Visit my gallery @ http://www.galeriade.com/DeBilbao
 
Enjoyed your detailed review and the beautiful images. Sure, you will enjoy this camera for a long time. Suddenly, I am using it more than my DSLR.
aftab
 
The D80 looks a VERY good camera, though I've always been a Canon lover.

The D80 seems to offer just about everything that the 'pro' Nikons do, just as my T90 offered everything I needed in the Canon line at the time.

I'm just tempted by more megapixels despite everyones comments to the contrary. I'd never be able to afford a digital back for my RB67, even if one ever existed, but 20 Mp on a full size 35mm sensor should be achievable in the next year or two, whilst retaining low noise at high ISO.

That should be 'future-proof', as I can't see anything higher being needed by anyone except in a large format camera for VERY serious work, and I just hope it percolates down to the 'serious amateur' stage quickly.

Did you actually get to test the D80? I'd be very interested to know how it felt compared to the FZ50.

Colin
http://www.pbase.com/cdyckes
 
Very nice review. Thanks for taking the time to share with us. It seems the FZ50 has put a lot of peoples plans to upgrade to a DSLR on hold, at least for the time being.

Don
 

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