jim milewski
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well got the flash going but with or without my 522 flash, picutures are quite cool and washed out powder blue looking white. would setting a new white balance help? any suggestions? thanks
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Damien*
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Remember, you're not burning up any film. Experiment! I suggest you try all of the WB settings, but "Fixed" should do most to warm it up. Play with shutter speed and aperture as you may find this makes some small difference as well.
I don't own one, but if I remember correctly, a number 81 filter might warm it up if the WB's don't.
A little time, a little patience, and you're on your way!
D*
I don't own one, but if I remember correctly, a number 81 filter might warm it up if the WB's don't.
A little time, a little patience, and you're on your way!
D*
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Bob G.
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I use an Hoya 81A with the fixed color balance on my 850Z. I think the reason there is somewhat of a blue look is the camera is color balancing to the ambient light before the flash and doesn't quite full adjust to the flash when if fires. The problem with using just the filter and
auto color balance is the camera tries to compensate for the filter still using the ambient light just with more noise in the blue channel since the filter is trying to knock it down. The fixed color balance and the 81A make for very pleasant flesh tones. The only thing you have to watch for is the 81A filter does have some light loss which can be difficult to compensate for since you only have full f-stops on the camera and the light loss isn't a full stop. However this can be a plus for things like weddings since detail in the white dress tend no to blow out as easily. I ended up putting the camera on a tripod and taking about 100 test shots with different flash, color balance, f-stop, and aperature settings before finding the compesataion I liked.
Damien is right too about playing with aperature and shutter speed. A f2.0 and shutter of 1/55 will let much more of the available light in to reduce the harsh effects of the flash when compared to F 4.0 and shutter of 1/100th. On the other hand if you have a glarring window in the background a shutter of 1/300th can do wonders to tone it down. The flash duration is much shorter than the shutter speed and its output is unaffected by the high shutter speed. Ofcourse these settings are just examples. Name of the game, experiment, learn, and have FUN!!!
Bob G.
P.S. When Buy.com get the 3100Z back in stock I do plan on buying it.
auto color balance is the camera tries to compensate for the filter still using the ambient light just with more noise in the blue channel since the filter is trying to knock it down. The fixed color balance and the 81A make for very pleasant flesh tones. The only thing you have to watch for is the 81A filter does have some light loss which can be difficult to compensate for since you only have full f-stops on the camera and the light loss isn't a full stop. However this can be a plus for things like weddings since detail in the white dress tend no to blow out as easily. I ended up putting the camera on a tripod and taking about 100 test shots with different flash, color balance, f-stop, and aperature settings before finding the compesataion I liked.
Damien is right too about playing with aperature and shutter speed. A f2.0 and shutter of 1/55 will let much more of the available light in to reduce the harsh effects of the flash when compared to F 4.0 and shutter of 1/100th. On the other hand if you have a glarring window in the background a shutter of 1/300th can do wonders to tone it down. The flash duration is much shorter than the shutter speed and its output is unaffected by the high shutter speed. Ofcourse these settings are just examples. Name of the game, experiment, learn, and have FUN!!!
Bob G.
P.S. When Buy.com get the 3100Z back in stock I do plan on buying it.
Damien*
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Bob, don't wait for them to state they have it in stock. I ordered mine in November and traded email with customer service, who told me that it would be two weeks before I saw it.
It showed up two days later! I added a Viking 128 mb CF for $59. Pretty tough to beat.
D*
It showed up two days later! I added a Viking 128 mb CF for $59. Pretty tough to beat.
D*
P.S. When Buy.com get the 3100Z back in stock I do plan on buying
it.
jim milewski
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Great advice people I will play around a little obviously I should be able to get it by the sunds of it. thanks a lot!
It showed up two days later! I added a Viking 128 mb CF for $59.
Pretty tough to beat.
D*
P.S. When Buy.com get the 3100Z back in stock I do plan on buying
it.
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