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Hey Kevin.....I own a D2x. For some reason every picture I take is horribly overexposed. What am I doing wrong?

The general principles of photography are the same accross the board. Technically one could go over to the canon/sony/pentax/olympus SLR forum and answer the same "stupid" questions.

I think it's important for everyone to remember that we all started as amateurs at one point in time.

here's one of my first posts to this board.......anything sound familiar? The cycle repeats with each new generation of camera.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=14117882

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I agree. I think folks need to read the manual first. It really gave me a lot of insight when I got my D70 which was my frist SLR (D or non-D).
I know this might sound a bit harsh and against Dpreviews rules and
regulations regardless of that fact I'm going to go ahead and speak
my mind.

When somebody goes out and buys a new toy, i.e. a new camera, and
they are all excited and forget to read the manual, God Bless their
childish souls, something they don't understand occurs. They come
to this forum to tell us that their shutter opened, but then it
closed.

I guess all I'm really saying is people have become so lazy and so
impatient they would rather jump on the keyboard and ask a question
like, "my battery is dead, it won't fit in the wall socket, how do
I charge it?"

When it comes to the discussions here, I find them to be ones that
start with "My new camera has a manual, but I didn't read it."

Read the manual, cover to cover. You will be amazed at what your
camera can do. Go out there and shoot, then come back here and
dicuss your likes and dislikes, show us some examples if you have
some questions or concerns.

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I guess all I'm really saying is people have become so lazy and so
impatient they would rather jump on the keyboard and ask a question
like, "my battery is dead, it won't fit in the wall socket, how do
I charge it?"
We should be grateful because there are still some enthousiasts who forget about the rules, the manuals and the wisdom of those wiser who are, alas, foolish enough not share their wisdom with the other at need, just because they think they are too wise.

Maybe harsh too, BUT WHAT THE HECK IS YOUR POINT ?

Are you just too knowledgeable and bothered by those who forget the lid on and take pictures ? Were you born wise ? Try and prove more humbleness and tolerance in these times of intolerance. In the end, it is just human nature.

miancu

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Lets not forget the "help me make up my mind" or " I have $1000 burning a hole in my pocket, help me expend it" or " I know this is a stupid question"

Not only they don't want to RTFM they refuse to do a search and see if that subject has been covered in a previous post.
 
Read the manual, cover to cover. You will be amazed at what your
camera can do. Go out there and shoot, then come back here and
dicuss your likes and dislikes, show us some examples if you have
some questions or concerns.
I have taken the liberty to "correct" your subject line...

Marco
 
Maybe it's just me, but I find the D2 with 17-55 and 70-200VR owners asking dumb questions way more irrating than the newbie with D50 and 18-55 asking same. It's like why buy premium gear if you don't even know which end you look through? Just because you can?

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lol...

Geoff
 
If all camera owners know how to use their camera without any
questions at all - and know how to use the camera in all
situations, and know all about all the lenses available - where
would this forum (and other forums) be?
The threads posted 1 hour ago will not be in the secon page, the more informative threads will be around much longer rather than buried in page 15
 
I'm an engineer. We don't read manuals. Until well after we screw
something up that is.
very true.

but we engineers would NEVER beg for help on any public forum. we would design numerous expensive experiments, do exhaustive data analysis, or even do literature search (which might actually may lead us back to TFM) but we would NEVER be caught asking a forum for help!!

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It is silly to condem people for taking a quicker more efficient route to a solution than you did and not everyone can easily understand manuals.

It's a pity you feel that everyone should slog down the same road to get to a solution rather than feeling that you could easily help someone understand something in a tenth of the time by giving a simple explanation to them as an alternative to hours of reading. Personally I choose to read the manual and experiment but that does not work for everyone.

I would rather have someone give me an experienced quick answer that would make more sense than spend hours reading and come away with a partial understanding from a manual.

P.S. don't forget to just hand your kid's the encylopedia Britannica when they ask you what a cow is.

Thanks

jmho
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I'm an engineer, as a kid I loved my Brownie Hawkeye, I read my D70 manuel, I read Thom's most excellent e-book (I heard about it here) and I still learned a lot from the very good answers to some of the newbie questions on thiis forum. A new DSLR can be very confusing to someone who is not photographically experienced, and IMHO the manuels are written for people who already understand quite a bit about photography. I want to thank all those on this forum who have helped me take better pictures.
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digital SLR's are complicated beasts.

One should at least give the manual a single good read through. I'm not saying that they shouldn't post questions to the forums.....but, a "stupid" question is still a "stupid" question.

As I said earlier. We all started in the same boat and I'm sure everyone here is guilty of asking at least one "duh" question.
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My pet peave is people who ask which camera is better or does this
camera take night shots etc.
Then why do you frequent a site called DP"REVIEW" ?!?

I guess if I had a "peave" I wouldnt hang out where it is the main topic.
 
in response to your post below...I've got say that I do not agree. Although its fine and dandy to ask for help when you need it, it should also be expected that each person asking for help has done their due diligence to find the answer rather than start a new post.

Yes this forum exists to offer assistance, but rather than asking a rather rudimentary or redundant question (of which there are many each day), users should use the search function and hopefully get an answer there. After all, this is why the search capability is provided. As well, this would probably provide a much quicker response than simply asking and waiting for an answer. I’ve used the search to answer most of my questions.

Second point, very few people learn well by being fed information all the time…it works best if you get out and try. ”Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he’ll eat for a lifetime”…I’m sure you’ve heard that proverb before. It holds true for many things in life Users who purchase a complex tool and expect it to produce bang-on results in the out of the box should have bought a P&S digi-cam.
It is silly to condem people for taking a quicker more efficient
route to a solution than you did and not everyone can easily
understand manuals.
It's a pity you feel that everyone should slog down the same road
to get to a solution rather than feeling that you could easily help
someone understand something in a tenth of the time by giving a
simple explanation to them as an alternative to hours of reading.
Personally I choose to read the manual and experiment but that does
not work for everyone.
I would rather have someone give me an experienced quick answer
that would make more sense than spend hours reading and come away
with a partial understanding from a manual.

P.S. don't forget to just hand your kid's the encylopedia
Britannica when they ask you what a cow is.

Thanks

jmho
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Many manuals are not particularly well written... at least to my taste. Pages can be busy and somewhat confusing (look at the D70 or D200 "discussions" on flash.

So... I've asked my share of questions... which I must say were always answered kindly, politely and informatively. (And, BTW, I have read the D70 and 200 manuals several times.) Having answers in a conversational style (that's how I teach) rather than a "manualese" style has always solved my problems.

Now, what does twist my shorts is threads that start: URGENT!!! or EMERGENCY!!!
 

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