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What do you think about the lack of dedicated buttons for ISO and WB on the Pentax K10D? Might the lack of these buttons limit the camera's functionality?
 
As I understand it, while there isn't a dedicated ISO button, in many of the picture modes you can use one of the two control wheels to set ISO, and the rest of the time you can give the camera a defined range of ISO's to choose from. Don't know about white balance, but if you're shooting in RAW it doesn't matter.

I'm somewhat surprised by all the angst over this. Granted I don't have a lot of experience, but do people really change ISO all that often? I mean, with film you had a roll at a certain ISO and that was that (yes I know you could push it, but thats what exposure compensation is for). I guess it would matter for sports, but is it really the most important thing?

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G Sarr said:
What do you think about the lack of dedicated buttons for ISO and
WB on the Pentax K10D? Might the lack of these buttons limit the
camera's functionality?
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No.
There is no need for these.

1. ISO can be put on the wheels in Tv and Av mode and in P it can be put on the OK button.
2. Where is WB for? Use RAW! The K10 is not for JPG shooters.
 
You can control ISO without any buttons at all, just using the wheel, in Sv mode. WB is not so much of a concern because you rarely need to change it on a shot-by-shot basis.

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the lack of in-body stabilization, weather body seals, ISO priority mode and aperture+shutter-speed priority on the Canon 30D, 400D, Nikon D50 and D80?

What is more important to you?

I'm not willing to give up any single one of them for dedicated buttons.
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I am looking forward to learning how to use the K10's implementation of ISO control with TAV and SV modes, so I'm not concerned about that.

As for WB, it's not something I change that often, but when I do, it's not as if it's something that needs to be changed as quickly as aperture, AF shooting mode (single to continuous for example) etc...

All in all, I think the external controls look great, and finally us DS,DL users will get to try hypermode!
G Sarr said:
What do you think about the lack of dedicated buttons for ISO and
WB on the Pentax K10D? Might the lack of these buttons limit the
camera's functionality?
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blende8 said:
No.
There is no need for these.
1. ISO can be put on the wheels in Tv and Av mode and in P it can
be put on the OK button.
2. Where is WB for? Use RAW! The K10 is not for JPG shooters.
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ISO can be put on the wheel in Tv and Av? If so that is great. I was under the impression that it couldn't be put on the wheel, except in Sv.
 
blende8 said:
Where is WB for? Use RAW! The K10 is not for JPG shooters.
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Why, then, is JPG available on the K10? You make it sound as though "JPG shooters" like me are too far beneath RAW shooters to be afforded the privilege of being able to purchase a K10! Some folks only have so much $ to spend on memory card and hard drive space, you know.

And some of us simpletons, not shooting RAW, also change WB frequently and therefore like to be able to do so quickly and easily. I think this is where this whole concern about quick ISO and WB settings access is arising from - not everyone shoots RAW.
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Well, none of my camera's never had buttons for these so using the menu isn't an issue. I know on the Nikon they needed them as Nikon has some of the worst menu's I have ever seen. That being at least half the reason I wouldn't buy a nikon, that an I don't like the feel of the camera and no OIS in the body.

Robert
 
Dagatech said:
I'm somewhat surprised by all the angst over this. Granted I don't
have a lot of experience, but do people really change ISO all that
often? I mean, with film you had a roll at a certain ISO and that
was that (yes I know you could push it, but thats what exposure
compensation is for). I guess it would matter for sports, but is it
really the most important thing?

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Dave
http://www.seektheeout.com/
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I change iso pretty often, so i can see the need..... however,

its got to the point that i can change it going thru the menu system (wb too) as fast as i could need to to change it. its really quick, dont even have to look as long as i remember what iso it is on to begin with... so moot point for me

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blende8 said:
G Sarr said:
What do you think about the lack of dedicated buttons for ISO and
WB on the Pentax K10D? Might the lack of these buttons limit the
camera's functionality?
Click to expand...
No.
There is no need for these.
1. ISO can be put on the wheels in Tv and Av mode and in P it can
be put on the OK button.
2. Where is WB for? Use RAW! The K10 is not for JPG shooters.
Click to expand...
Sure the K10D is for shooting JPG, how ridiculous is that statement. As for WB, just because you are shooting RAW is no excuse not to set your WB correctly, you should be striving to get the best possible image at the time of shooting. RAW should not be a crutch for lazy photographic technique.
 
There are Sv and TAv mode where it's possible to manage with ISO, Av and Tv by e-dials...ISO is always in VF.
But, as for Av and Tv mode, all is like in D/DS/DL.
And with manual lenses there is no ISO too...
 
blende8 said:
There is no need for these.
1. ISO can be put on the wheels in Tv and Av mode and in P it can
be put on the OK button.
2. Where is WB for? Use RAW! The K10 is not for JPG shooters.
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In this case, why Pentax made RAW button instead ISO button...
It's wrong way...
 
Lack of direct access to ISO in Av and Tv modes is serious thing.
To change ISO in Sv mode and Av is not the same.

Sv and TAv is interesting modes, but it can't change simple direct ISO in all modes...
 
Dagatech said:
As I understand it, while there isn't a dedicated ISO button, in
many of the picture modes you can use one of the two control wheels
to set ISO, and the rest of the time you can give the camera a
defined range of ISO's to choose from. Don't know about white
balance, but if you're shooting in RAW it doesn't matter.
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The K10D doesn't have picture modes....
The K100D has picture modes, but not the K10D.

Take care
R
 
Isn't the lack of Sv and TAv modes in the cameras from the competition a serious drawback with them? In Sv mode you change ISO with one dial and aperture/shutter with the other (if you have activated program shift in the custom menu). In TAv mode you set aperture and shutter, and the camera sets ISO.

Take care
R
 
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