Nikon D80 or Canon 400D

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I bought last year a Panasonic FZ30 and last friday i received my D80. I'm keeping my FZ30, anyway.

The 400D has a very bad ergonomic grip. I suggest that you try it first before you buy it.

One thing i can assure you: D80 is amazing to handle and it's a fantastic camera.

And i'm not biased. I worked with Canon until last year but 350/400D it's not for me. Too small, too plastic.

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Dan said:

1) Do not take anyones recommendation on either the Canon or Nikon
forums, you will never find a Nikon person who doesn't love Nikon
nor a Canon person or who doesn't love Canon and as such the
opinion will be biased.

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Not quite right. I used Canon from 1996 until last year. Tried to buy a 350D, but the bad ergonomics made me wait until this year. Looked at 400D... same BS of bad ergonomics. So i made my research and i received my D80 last Friday, my absolutely first Nikon camera in all my life.

So tell me: i'm in Nikon Forum, am i biased over Nikon? No i don't! I just think that The D80 is waaaaaaaay better than Canon 400D, and now not only because of the bad ergonomics.

Dan198196 said:

2) Wait for the review here at dpreview.com. I honestly don't
understand why people don't wait for the reviews before making a
purchase. I never, ever purchase a big ticket item without
thorough, educated, and well thought out research. Just because a
product is newer does not mean that it is better, this has been the
case many times before.

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I agree. And you can search and read for other reviews of 400D over internet.

Dan198196 said:

3) Go to a store and place both camera's in hand, look through the
viewfinder, play with the menus and buttons and take a few shots
with both.

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100% correct

Dan198196 said:

6) Avoid people bashing or making claims unproven such as Brand X
has hotpixels or Brand Y has more noise. People on these forums
are not engineers, and most are not professional photographers
(even if they claim to be), so take everything with a grain of salt.

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Yup, that's true.

Dan198196 said:

Daniel

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Ok, LET'S talk features.
Sensor
Canon Rebel XTi 10 mp
Nikon D80 10 MP
That's a wash

Imaging Processors
Canon 27 high res at 3fps
23 at highest res, 100 at lower res

Auto Focus
Canon 9 point diamond shaped array
Nikon 11 point

Metering
Canon
• Evaluative 35-zone
• Partial 9% at center (note, Canon DOESN'T have center spot)
• Center-weighted average (not to be confused with true Center spot)
Nikon
• Three mode through-the-lens (TTL) exposure metering system
• 3D color matrix metering II
• 420-pixel RGB sensor

• Center-weighted: Weight of 75% given to 6, 8, or 10-mm circle in center of frame

• Spot: Meters 3.5 mm circle (about 2.5% of frame) centered on active focus area (and according to Pop Phot, the sensitivity is adjustable)

Exposure Comp
Canon
• + - 2.0 EV
• 0.5 or 0.3 EV increments
Nikon
• + - 5 EV
• 1/3 or 1/2 EV steps
= - 5 beats + - 2 every time

Sensitivity
Canon
• Auto (100 - 400)
• ISO 100
• ISO 200
• ISO 400
• ISO 800
• ISO 1600
Nikon
• Auto ISO (customizable)
• ISO 100
• ISO 125
• ISO 160
• ISO 200
• ISO 250
• ISO 320
• ISO 400
• ISO 500
• ISO 640
• ISO 800
• ISO 1000
• ISO 1250
• ISO 1600
• ISO 2000 equiv. (HI 0.3) *
• ISO 2500 equiv. (HI 0.7) *
• ISO 3200 equiv. (HI 1.0) *

WB bracketing
Canon
• + -3 levels
• 3 images
• Selectable Blue/Amber or Magenta/Green bias *
Nikon
• 2 or 3 frames
• + - 1, 2 or 3 mired
Choice of 2 or 3 frames versus selectable Blue/Amber or Magenta/Green bias

Selectable NR
Canon doesn't have it
Nikon
• Normal
• Low
• High
• Off

Viewfinder
Canon
• Pentamirror
• 95% frame coverage
• Magnification: 0.8x (-1 diopter with 50 mm lens at infinity)
• Eyepoint: 21 mm
• Dioptric adjustment: -3.0 to +1.0 diopter
• Fixed laser matte screen
• Proximity sensor disables LCD shooting mode information *
Nikon
• Fixed eye-level pentaprism
• Built-in diopter adjustment (-2.0 to +1.0 m-1)
• Eyepoint: 19.5 mm (at -1.0 m-1)
• Frame coverage 95% (approx.)
• Viewfinder magnification approx. 0.94x with 50mm lens at infinity; -1.0 m-

• Focusing screen: Type B BriteView clear matte screen Mark II with superimposed focus brackets and On-Demand grid lines

80% magnification versus 94%

image parameters
Canon
• Sharpness: 0 to 7
• Contrast: -4 to +4
• Saturation: -4 to +4
• Color tone: -4 to +4
• B&W filter: N, Ye, Or, R, G
• B&W tone: N, S, B, P, G
Nikon
• Preset modes: Normal, Softer, Vivid, More Vivid, Portrait, B&W
• Sharpening: Auto, 6 levels
• Tone: Auto, 5 levels, Custom curve
• Color mode: Ia (sRGB), II (Adobe RGB), IIIa (sRGB)
• Saturation: Auto, 3 levels
• Hue: -9° to +9°
Monchrome w/ filters
Able to oversharpen 2 notches versus hue adjustment + - 9·color modes
3 color modes and Monchrome w filters versus BW filters.
Tone adjustment at 5 levels versus 4 levels

Expected shutter life cycle
Canon 100,000
Nikon 100,000
Tied round

Shots per battery charge
Canon
CAn't find any info quickly
Nikon
2700 shots

In camera Post proccessing
Canon
Pict bridge
Nikon
• D-Lighting
• Red-eye reduction
• Trimming
• Overlay
• Monochrome and Filter
• Small picture
• Image overlay

Dust reduction
Canon has it
Nikon doesn't
I thought dust wasn't a problem according to Canonites?

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