I have always used a 35mm manual slr and I don't mind the ability to set the camera with controls on the outside. What would bother me is having make changes in the menus. Even though it does not save the priorities, if it does save the menu options I believe that this is a great feature!
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Stephanie Asher
Well-known member
Hello, everyone! I am a new aspiring photographer and purchased the Coolpix 5000 just 10 days ago. Since I know little to nothing about photography, I was hoping that the "user setting" feature would greatly help me in my endeavors. Just like many people on this board, the feature is driving me crazy. The camera typically saves settings "across the board." In other words, I program user set 1. Then, for example, I program user set 2, and check the "noise reduction" feature. Lo and behold...all three of my user sets are now programmed for noise reduction!! This happens with almost everything I "attempt" to program on the camera. I will be calling Nikon, but wonder if anyone has any words or wisdom or Nikon update before I through both this camera (and my photograpy hobby) out the window. I spent more than 2x as much $$ for this camera than I wanted to because of this particular and it hurts. Thanks. Stephanie
Grant Youngman
Forum Enthusiast
i thought we had beaten this issue to death once before. Mode and ISO are GLOBAL settings. Since these are not settings in the User menus, they are not recalled with the user profile.
I wish they were too, but I don't think this is a matter of things not working the way they are supposed to. It is just the way it works.
--Grant Y.
Grant Youngman
Forum Enthusiast
Hmmmm .. I don't have the camera here with me today, but don't recall this being an issue. The user sets work precisely the way they are described in the manual.
--Grant Y.
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StevenN
Guest
I purchased my CP5000 three weeks ago and my user settings work OK. I have users 1, 2 & 3 set for different things, and the settings don't carry over into the other settings.
The one thing I don't like, however, is that you cannot save any of the button settings -- i.e.: the Aperature/Shutter preferred and Program settings -- only settings in the menus. But the button settings are easy enough to change in a pinch.
--StevenN
The one thing I don't like, however, is that you cannot save any of the button settings -- i.e.: the Aperature/Shutter preferred and Program settings -- only settings in the menus. But the button settings are easy enough to change in a pinch.
--StevenN
Stephanie Asher
Well-known member
I don't really care that the camera won't save anything but standard menu items in the user sets. But the problem for me is just the opposite. Here's an exercise for you to try. Go to user 2. Turn on "noise reduction" (a menu item.) Escape from menu. Now select user 2 and/or user 3. Wella...ALL THREE of your users will be defaulted to noise reduction (NR will appear on your monitor.) If anyone has a fix for this, please let me know! Thanks. Stephanie
Grant Youngman
Forum Enthusiast
Stephanie Asher wrote:
I program user set 2, and check the
Nice little crow, pretty little crow --- CHOMP! I'll be picking the feathers out of my teeth for a while
--Grant Y.
I program user set 2, and check the
Contrary to my previous post on the subject, NR does indeed seem to be another GLOBAL function. If I turn it on (or off) for one user setting, it's on everywhere.
Nice little crow, pretty little crow --- CHOMP! I'll be picking the feathers out of my teeth for a while
--Grant Y.
Stephanie Asher
Well-known member
No problem, Grant. I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only person having this trouble!
Stephanie
Stephanie
Contrary to my previous post on the subject, NR does indeed seem to
be another GLOBAL function. If I turn it on (or off) for one user
setting, it's on everywhere.
Nice little crow, pretty little crow --- CHOMP! I'll be picking
the feathers out of my teeth for a while
--
Grant Y.
JeffP
Member
Unfortunately I think that this is very poor design on Nikon's part.
the user settings contrary to what one might think are a mix of individual and global settings and there is no indication when going thru the menus of which are which.
they should have just separated out the global settings into a different section so that there would be no confusion..
but that's life i guess..
Jeff
the user settings contrary to what one might think are a mix of individual and global settings and there is no indication when going thru the menus of which are which.
they should have just separated out the global settings into a different section so that there would be no confusion..
but that's life i guess..
Jeff
Stephanie
Contrary to my previous post on the subject, NR does indeed seem to
be another GLOBAL function. If I turn it on (or off) for one user
setting, it's on everywhere.
Nice little crow, pretty little crow --- CHOMP! I'll be picking
the feathers out of my teeth for a while
--
Grant Y.
jwilliams77474
Well-known member
Stephanie,
Don't despair. Manuals are deficient because they tend to describe features, not explain them or detail strategies.
"Noise reduction" is global because it is only available at slow shutter speeds. Once activated in the menu it will be turned on automatically so you don't have to go into the menu to do so.
BSS, bracketing, and continuous modes overide noise reduction so if you select BSS for say set 1, the menu skips over NR; on the other hand, if BSS is off on all sets and you select NR, it will apply to all sets. Then if you select BSS for one of the sets it always remains, so you can set the camera up with BSS on one setting, bracketing or continuous on the others. Since you can't use BSS with bracketing or NR, you can essentially use sets 1,2, and 3 to choose between BSS, bracketing, and NR.
Other settings: white balance, metering, image, sharpening, etc, are independent of the NR, BSS, etc, and will remain in place.
This is complicated and confusing, but it works, and enables many options in using the camera without resorting to the menus (which you may not be able to see in bright light). The only way to master it is play around with the settings, a lot. Mutually exclusive selections that overide others will show up red in the menu.
Not all variations can be programmed into the buttons at the same time. With experience you can determine which ones to use any particularly day.
This example demonstrates the consistancy: turn on NR, select BSS for one or two. NR remains on the other. Turn BSS off and NR is there. Turn on BSS for all three, then turn it off and NR will be off.
This is the dreaded "learning curve" that causes some to abandon the camera but given time and persistence it will reward you with flexibility not approached by any other consumer digital available.
If your settings are not working as described, initial manipulations may have "bugged it". If so try removing the battery long enough to reset the system and try again. This happened to me, I lost a nights sleep and corrected it easliy the next day.
Another source of early consternation: the battery. This produced a lot of misunderstandings when the camera was first released. After initial stretching, the capacity will amaze you. You can get over 100 fine quality shots with a single charge.
John W.
Stephanie Asher wrote:
I was hoping that the "user setting" feature
Don't despair. Manuals are deficient because they tend to describe features, not explain them or detail strategies.
"Noise reduction" is global because it is only available at slow shutter speeds. Once activated in the menu it will be turned on automatically so you don't have to go into the menu to do so.
BSS, bracketing, and continuous modes overide noise reduction so if you select BSS for say set 1, the menu skips over NR; on the other hand, if BSS is off on all sets and you select NR, it will apply to all sets. Then if you select BSS for one of the sets it always remains, so you can set the camera up with BSS on one setting, bracketing or continuous on the others. Since you can't use BSS with bracketing or NR, you can essentially use sets 1,2, and 3 to choose between BSS, bracketing, and NR.
Other settings: white balance, metering, image, sharpening, etc, are independent of the NR, BSS, etc, and will remain in place.
This is complicated and confusing, but it works, and enables many options in using the camera without resorting to the menus (which you may not be able to see in bright light). The only way to master it is play around with the settings, a lot. Mutually exclusive selections that overide others will show up red in the menu.
Not all variations can be programmed into the buttons at the same time. With experience you can determine which ones to use any particularly day.
This example demonstrates the consistancy: turn on NR, select BSS for one or two. NR remains on the other. Turn BSS off and NR is there. Turn on BSS for all three, then turn it off and NR will be off.
This is the dreaded "learning curve" that causes some to abandon the camera but given time and persistence it will reward you with flexibility not approached by any other consumer digital available.
If your settings are not working as described, initial manipulations may have "bugged it". If so try removing the battery long enough to reset the system and try again. This happened to me, I lost a nights sleep and corrected it easliy the next day.
Another source of early consternation: the battery. This produced a lot of misunderstandings when the camera was first released. After initial stretching, the capacity will amaze you. You can get over 100 fine quality shots with a single charge.
John W.
Stephanie Asher wrote:
I was hoping that the "user setting" feature
well it is correct for reset to default, as it is wrote on page 130 131 and 148,...
BUT if you read on page 88, it is clearly wrote that every users are independant on every settings, and there is nowhere you can find an explication that say clearly that some option will remain the same for each user settings and some other are unique for each user, so ? what ?
is the manual wrong or just a bug in software ?
you can also try the braketing, the noise reduction and so on... those options will be set for every users mode and it is very annoying some time.
regards
--G-R.Lemon
I agree with Stephanie
the multi-Braketing is also set for every user and it is very anoying some time
the multi-Braketing is also set for every user and it is very anoying some time
--G-R.Lemon
jwilliams77474
Well-known member
The manual is deficient but the clue is there. It indicates that bracketing and NR are not available when using BSS. What it doesn't say is that these settings are global and the BSS setting is priority. You can turn bracketing on and use BSS to block it on the user settings you don't want to bracket.
John W.
John W.
Thank you for the tips
But I still beleive the manual is correct and the bios is bugged
my manual in French and the original in Japanese, stipulate clearly that every settings are independant per users, and not global (p88), and it make sens that they placed it at the begining of the chapter, and until p130, they never placed any remark that one option or another is Global or per user.
otherwise they would have wrote as on p130-131 , the reset to default, they clearly explain that some are reset and some are not, so why they don't they wrote it on p88 that some are global and some are per users ?
anyway I will try your tips, because until now I was using only user 1 and changed everything manualy every times.
hope they will update the bios, (or the manual)
regards
But I still beleive the manual is correct and the bios is bugged
my manual in French and the original in Japanese, stipulate clearly that every settings are independant per users, and not global (p88), and it make sens that they placed it at the begining of the chapter, and until p130, they never placed any remark that one option or another is Global or per user.
otherwise they would have wrote as on p130-131 , the reset to default, they clearly explain that some are reset and some are not, so why they don't they wrote it on p88 that some are global and some are per users ?
anyway I will try your tips, because until now I was using only user 1 and changed everything manualy every times.
hope they will update the bios, (or the manual)
regards
--G-R.Lemon
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