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Damn, the maximum data transfer for that crappy geocities cite was already exceeded. So I have no idea what to do now.
 
Nice pictures, but what ISO were you using? The one of the Johnson museum and interior of Sage Chapel (I believe?) have quite noticeable color noise. This really brings back memories of Cornell :D

I'm considering an NV for a pocket digicam, is there any shutter lag / startup lag?
 
Marked so I can go back to my samples posted, and others who FTP them to Mr Biggers.
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'Photos are what remains when the memories are forgotten' - Angular Mo.
 
taomeister said:
Nice pictures, but what ISO were you using? T
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In the upper right (have to scroll WAY over on the full size) there is a "photo properties" button, that will tell you the info including ISO on that shot. Bryan
 
Not a high ISO at all. THe sage chapel interior was taken at ISO 200 and the johnson museum at ISO 100. The camera self-selected these ISOs based on auto-iso mode. There really wasn't much light out though. But yeah, there is lots of noise. I was surprised to see you identify the locations!!
 
OK, just a few comments about the samples... and I'd have to see a lot more before drawing any conclusions.
  • OK, they are a bit noisy, even at ISO 100. The noise is mostly chroma noise, which appears as blotches of color. This may be typical for this 7 MP sensor, which is the smaller of the two 7MP sensors commonly used. For example, the Casio 750 uses the 1/1.8" CCD( 0.55 inches) while the NV7 uses 1/2.5" (0.4 inches). That is the price they pay for keeping the lens small. I'm not saying that it is bad and certainly will not be seen maybe even full screen or on an 8x10 print, but the noise is there and by ISO 200 it is getting noticable in the darker areas. At higher ISOs all bets are off with all of the small sensor cameras, and the NV7 is actually doing a pretty good job with the noise at ISO 800 and 1000 at the expense of a lot of smoothing. My impression is that this camera is similar to the Panasonic cameras, a bit noisy all around.
  • Sharpening: I think that the default is excessive and kind of video looking, but typical for a consumer camera where they are trying ro a lot of punch. Presumably you can turn this down (how about someone taking a normal and reduced sharpening shot of an identical scene?) You can really see the sharpening around highlights where it produces a dark halo around the highlight.
  • Saturation: wow, maybe over the top for me at ISO 100, but some people like that, I know someone that would love this camera. Not a problem at the higher ISOs apparently as their chroma noise reduction procedure seems to involve lowering the saturation.
  • Lens: looks very good for a zoom, not much chromatic abberation seen at all.
Just some thoughts.
 
Mr Biggers,

I have not yet tried any third-party noise reduction software on my original photos from the NV7.

Is there a possibility that Samsung preferred to do little in-camera noise reduction to allow for third party applications?

That was one aspect that led me toward the NV7 over the Fuji F30.

Angular Mo.

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'Photos are what remains when the memories are forgotten' - Angular Mo.
 
Yes, that could be. Personally I prefer a camera that does less in camera noise reduction for exactly that reason; the less they mess with the photo the more chance you have later of fixing it up, if you need to, say for a very large print (over 8x10).
 
I am very interested in the NV7, and I'm looking for a recommendation (or not). I will use it for family photos, which I take a lot of, printing usually no larger than a 4x6. While I'm not professional, I do want a quality picture. I am interested in the NV7 because of the zoom and anti-shake features. If I don't get this camera, I'm looking at the Canon SD700, which has a zoom equivalent of 140mm, and got decent reviews. Any suggestions? I currently own an Olympus Stylus 300, which I've been satisfied with, but now I want a larger zoom. Do you think the NV7 will do the job? Thanks for your help!
 
Ms. Bowersmom,

I have had the NV7 for about a week, and use it for family photos, the zoom is quite long (270 effective), good for the ball field, and just yesterday I used the video, and it is excellent.

Having full manual controls is great for learning exposure concepts too.

Angular Mo.

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'Photos are what remains when the memories are forgotten' - Angular Mo.
 
Thank you so much for your reply. Have you printed your photos yet? How satisfied are you with the quality? I'm concerned that I would get grainy pics from all I've been reading.
 
Ms Bowersmom,

I printed the original file of this photo below that was uploaded and available in this thread, available here:

http://dcexp.com/gallery/Samsung-NV7?page=1

It was taken outdoors, gray-lit sky, done ISO 100, on 5 inch x 7 inch glossy paper and was very pleased with the results, with no post-processing.

For an indoor photo, I printed a photo also on 5"x7'" ISO 400, that had high contrast (medium blue and white wall), and detail (person with striped shirt) and poster in background. With no post-processing, there is noticeable noise. Corrected with Noise-Ninja, automatic profile (I am not a PP expert)....it cleaned up nicely with no perceptable loss of detail.

I think that perhaps Samsung took the route of minimal in-camera processing.

It seems that this camera's strength is its versatility, manual controls,small (not compact) size, long zoom, excelent video, outdoor photos that don't need PP, indoors need a little.

Angular Mo.
Bowsersmom said:
Thank you so much for your reply. Have you printed your photos
yet? How satisfied are you with the quality? I'm concerned that I
would get grainy pics from all I've been reading.
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'Photos are what remains when the memories are forgotten' - Angular Mo.
 
Thank you for your response. I'm very happy you were pleased with the photos. My concern now is that there doesn't appear to be a separate battery for this camera - that you have to put the entire camera in a cradle to recharge. If this is true, then it may be a big drawback for me.
 
Ms Bowsermom,

This is true, there is no separate battery charger, yet. The camera comes with a cable, to plug into the wall or a USB port to recharge the battery.

I used to insist on AA batteries for digicams, but decided to be more flexible to obtain a thinner body form.

For some recently uploaded photos from a trip to London, take a look at the link in this thread below.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1001&message=20725481

When I recently learned that the NV10 has only two aperture settings, that made my choice of the NV7 a bit more of a relief.

Angular Mo.
Bowsersmom said:
Thank you for your response. I'm very happy you were pleased with
the photos. My concern now is that there doesn't appear to be a
separate battery for this camera - that you have to put the entire
camera in a cradle to recharge. If this is true, then it may be a
big drawback for me.
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'Photos are what remains when the memories are forgotten' - Angular Mo.
 
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