Reading mode: Light Dark

5D a future classic?

Go to last post
BobMert said:
You know I'm not so sure. I have a d60 that just has a way of
putting color down on a file that still can't be duplicated by any
other canon I've owned. Granted it's a bit of a pig in other ways
but the colors and the way it lays them down still has me using it
from time to time for portrait and studio work. To me the d60 is a
classic.
Click to expand...
The D60 renders beautiful, gorgeous colors for sure. But I don't think they're very different from the 5D. In fact, from the two images below, can you tell me which one is the D60 image and which is the 5D?





Have a look around and you'll see plenty of photos from both cameras ... I don't think there's much difference in terms of color rendition:

http://www.landscapephoto.us/Galleries/All.html
 
M02 said:
With people talking about the 5D successor and asking "should I buy
now or wait?", do you think that if I'm out and about with my 5D in
5 or 10 years time, people will say "the 5D, oh yeah, I remember
that, it was a great camera" and remember it fondly as the first of
its kind, like the F1 or T90.
Click to expand...
What was your first computer?
 
Yea, I still have it! An Atari 800. I even have the cassette deck and floppy disk drive somewhere, and a couple of cartridge based games. I think had an Atari 130XE after that, then the Atari 520St and a 1040ST and finally a Mac Powerbook145. You many not remember this. But there was a time when Atari and Commodore computers were orders of magnitudes less expensive than PCs or Macs.
 
it's no doubt better than my 10D. If i had money now, i would replace 10D with 5D. Technology is getting better and better. If you can afford and you feel you need it, then get 5D. OTherwise, you can wait forever...
 
A Mac 512K with an external floppy drive. It got replaced by a Mac Plus.

Still amazed how much I managed to get done a computer with an 8MHz processor, including some 3D architectural modelling on the Plus.

I missed the experience so much that I picked a cheap 128K (the original Macintosh) up a few years later.

I now have a fair menagerie of 680x0 Macs, including the IIfx that I could only dream of when I bought the 512k.

:-)

--
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/
 
It's certainly a watershed camera (as others have said), but a classic? I'm not sure about that.

Having said that, I'll also say that it's the first digital camera that:

a) Fit my wallet, and

b) Made me think that the consumer-level digital technology available was as good as or better than film.

Up until last May, I'd always owned and used film cameras. The goodness of the 5D and the convenience of digital drove me over the edge to switch. The high-ISO performance was/is icing on the cake; I'm still amazed by what the camera can do at higher sensitivities that high-ISO film simply cannot.

I guess the implied question here is whether or not you should buy the 5D or wait for its successor. I can predict, for its successor:

1) The image quality will not be so much better that I'll want to upgrade.

2) The ergonomics may improve somewhat, but (for me at least) the ergonomics on the 5D are pretty good already -- I won't need to upgrade for any improvements there.

3) The image capture process may be faster than the current 3 FPS. If this is very important to you, then wait. It's not for me.

4) There may be a better way of dealing with dust (a la the 400D). For me, though, dust hasn't been a problem that I couldn't eradicate with a puffer bulb (yet), but if it's an issue for you, you may want to wait.

In short, unless something changes radically for the better, I'm unlikely to replace the 5D anytime very soon. Then again,though, I kept my 630 for 15 years (and my EOS 3 for one year after that before I upgraded to the 5D), so I may not be the best yardstick by which to predict these sorts of things.

Still, though, I believe I've never owned a nicer piece of photgraphic gear than the 5D, and it'll take a fairly significant leap in camera goodness to wrest mine from my possession.

...and I just don't see that happening.
 
The 5D is just a name for the camera that cemented FF for the masses and will be remembered fondly as such...

--
Yiannis

'We don't take pictures with our cameras,' Newman once said. 'We take them with our hearts and we take them with our minds, and the camera is nothing more than a tool.'
 
Damkader said:
I don't think there are anymore classics in the digital world.
People too worried about the next great miracle.
Click to expand...
Generally, I agree. But i suggest that the 1Ds may already be reaching 'classic' status.

B

--

At the very begining, I found photography simple: Point the camera and push the button. After several weeks of practice, I discovered I could achieve even better results by turning the camera on and removing the lens cap.

 
..might bring a tear to a few eyes in years to come.

In a 35mm sensor they are just going to put in more pixels, no doubt they will try to do it without compromising quality, but I can see a few missing that low density, just as some did on the move from the D30 to D60.

A lot 'needed' the move from 3MP to 6MP, and so were relatively tolerant of the increased density, but perhaps fewer will need the move to 16MP or whatever.
--
Regards,
DaveMart

'Just a wildebeast on the plain of life'
Please see profile for equipment
 
I saw an old post of yours that says you broke the top of your 1D a hairline crack near the Flash shoe. We recently dropped a 1Ds broke the same part how much did Canon charge to fix your camera?
Thank Mark
 
Thanks for everyone's input. As I expected, a lot of disagreement, but seems like a majority go for the obsolete view, like an old computer, due to the rapid pace of technological progress. I suppose this is good if you're a technology kind of person, who enjoys upgrading to the latest and greatest (and can afford it), not so much if you're a pride-of-ownership kind of person.

Malcolm
M02 said:
With people talking about the 5D successor and asking "should I buy
now or wait?", do you think that if I'm out and about with my 5D in
5 or 10 years time, people will say "the 5D, oh yeah, I remember
that, it was a great camera" and remember it fondly as the first of
its kind, like the F1 or T90.

Or will it be just another piece of obsolete electronics. What do
you think?

Malcolm
Click to expand...
 
M02 said:
As I expected, a lot of disagreement,
but seems like a majority go for the obsolete view, like an old
computer, due to the rapid pace of technological progress. I
suppose this is good if you're a technology kind of person, who
enjoys upgrading to the latest and greatest (and can afford it),
not so much if you're a pride-of-ownership kind of person.
Click to expand...
You asked if the 5D was a classic...then seem to resent that it will eventually be obsolete in the minds of many. You expected something else from a gear forum?

Pride of ownership does not conflict with something gaining classic status...ask Jay Leno.

However, classics almost by definition are obsolete relative to current state-of-the-art. Doesn't mean they aren't useful.

A fully restored '57 Chev FI Conv. with an original continental kit will set you back about $100k, as it is a true classic. But you might prefer the performance, handling and modern features of a current BMW 5 series that will not be a classic for a lot less $$$.

It's a matter of preference...neither is the right or wrong choice.

I wonder if there isn't an economic component of your inquiry? Should I pay $XXXX today, if I can get more for less if I wait?

That's a no-brainer...always wait....your interest then is in avoiding loss of value, not in creating memorable images.
M02 said:
--
Click to expand...
Joe Sesto
 
Beatiful landscapes. :D

I thought the same when the 5D hit the market. However I decided to stay since my D60 was good enough for my kind of photography. Besides it was very expensive, this is why I waited for the successor, the new 5D.
--
I never had sex for getting my photographer job, and I'll never do it again.
 
I realise you made the point in humour, but Canon have a recycling scheme for all their cameras, both digital and film, and many other products.

http://estore.usa.canon.com/recycle/recycle.asp

A landfill site is the worst possible place for it to end up.

You may find that in 20 years it's illegal to throw it in the trash, certainly with the direction things are going in Europe.

--
http://www.cybertects.co.uk/
 
Joe Sesto said:
M02 said:
As I expected, a lot of disagreement,
but seems like a majority go for the obsolete view, like an old
computer, due to the rapid pace of technological progress. I
suppose this is good if you're a technology kind of person, who
enjoys upgrading to the latest and greatest (and can afford it),
not so much if you're a pride-of-ownership kind of person.
Click to expand...
You asked if the 5D was a classic...then seem to resent that it
will eventually be obsolete in the minds of many. You expected
something else from a gear forum?
Click to expand...
You detect resentment in my post? I'm not sure why. I meant my question as a straight question that might be a good topic of discussion for this forum. I'm not trying to validate my purchasing decision or anything. I'm as much of a gear guy as anyone.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Keyboard shortcuts

f
Forum
m
My threads
Mobile site
About
Editorial content
Cameras & Lenses
Community
All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998–2025 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved.
Reproduction in whole or part in any form or medium without specific written permission is prohibited.
When you use DPReview links to buy products, the site may earn a commission.
©GPS Media - Guides, Products, Services.
Back
Top