Uzi Stabilizer on-off Comparisons, Tripod 4 Sale

Oh my God...you really need the IS! :)

what settings did you use to get that blurry pic?
See why C2100UZ owners are selling their tripods!

I have two composite photos showing the benefit of the Oly C2100UZ
stabilized lens. Now if we can only keep our subjects still.

http://www.pbase.com/johncurtis/c2100uz

Happy Snaps,

John Curtis
http://www.pbase.com/johncurtis/yosemite
--
John C
--Daniella http://www.pbase.com/zylenC7OO discussion group: http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi 'The things you own will only endup owning you'
 
From what I have done myself I have to say that you can take good pictues without the IS,like the one Daniella3d showed in the other post.

But I must say that the % of good pictures is far better using the IS.

And It makes you get those god pictures even if you have to position yourself in a "less stable" position.

Best regards

--M.LorenCanon GOly C-2100UZ
 
I'd say that a lot of people could get a clear shot without IS at speeds like 1/25' but I've gotten good ones handheld down to about 1/2' to 1/5' because of the IS which is something I've never been able to do with any other camera. My wife has been very impressed by the IS and this is her first "serious" camera. She's been getting good handheld shots down to about 1/15'. Up to this point, she's only used Instamatics and one point and shoot. The IS is a great feature to have as far as I'm concerned. Tripods are great for PLANNED shots but we don't always have one with us when a great shot presents itself.
From what I have done myself I have to say that you can take good
pictues without the IS,like the one Daniella3d showed in the other
post.

But I must say that the % of good pictures is far better using the IS.
And It makes you get those god pictures even if you have to
position yourself in a "less stable" position.

Best regards

--
M.Loren
Canon G
Oly C-2100UZ
 
Does the image stabilization also help for wide angle shots? I originally thought it only applied to the use of the zoom lens.

I did my first 2100 photo shoot last night which involved lots of low light and night photos at the photogenic University of Michigan Law School and I had a blast. I took some decent handheld photos up to 1/2 a second. They aren't the sharpest photos and they are noisy when blown up, but at least I have them and they look OK at 6x4 inches. I was able to take decent handheld night shots at ISO 400, aperture 2.8, and a shot time of 1/1.6 seconds.
 
The wider the angle used, the less camera shake will affect the image so the IS is even more effective at wide angle.
Does the image stabilization also help for wide angle shots? I
originally thought it only applied to the use of the zoom lens.

I did my first 2100 photo shoot last night which involved lots of
low light and night photos at the photogenic University of Michigan
Law School and I had a blast. I took some decent handheld photos
up to 1/2 a second. They aren't the sharpest photos and they are
noisy when blown up, but at least I have them and they look OK at
6x4 inches. I was able to take decent handheld night shots at ISO
400, aperture 2.8, and a shot time of 1/1.6 seconds.
 
Daniella,

Do you think that is why Oly supposedly discontinued the UZI because Image Stabilization isn't really necessary? And you don't have any problem holding it steady at full zoom on 1/10 sec? Wow!! Simply amazing! I always thought the heavier camera would be more stable. JD
Here is a shot i did at 1/25 full zoom no tripod:

http://www.pbase.com/image/691306

I mostly don't have problem holding the camera straight up to 1/10.
I did had problem doing the same thing with the c2100, probably
because its big for my hand and harder to hold, more heavy.

--
Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C7OO discussion group:
http://www.homepet.com/cgi-bin/c700/UltraBoard.cgi

'The things you own will only endup owning you'
 
The longer you stay here, the more used you'll get to seeing Daniella make these kinds of claims. The one thing that I don't care for is the supposition she appears to make that, since SHE can get good handheld shots at slow shutters speeds, anyone can and the IS isn't necessary. But since the 2100 doesn't have a manual white balance and the 700 does, it's a flag she vigorously waves as if it was THE most needed feature in a digicam. I'm sorry but what good does manual white balance do if you can't get a clear, sharp shot in the first place? I'd certainly be wonderful if the 2100 did have manual white balance but if I had a choice between the two features, for my purposes I'd have to opt for the IS. I can work with the color balance later but you've gotta have a sharp image to start with. I can't handhold a shot like Daniella can and I don't lug a tripod everywhere I go. The IS has allowed me to get good existing light shots I would've otherwise missed on numerous occasions.
Daniella,
Do you think that is why Oly supposedly discontinued the UZI
because Image Stabilization isn't really necessary? And you don't
have any problem holding it steady at full zoom on 1/10 sec? Wow!!
Simply amazing! I always thought the heavier camera would be more
stable. JD
 
See why C2100UZ owners are selling their tripods!

I have two composite photos showing the benefit of the Oly C2100UZ
stabilized lens. Now if we can only keep our subjects still.

http://www.pbase.com/johncurtis/c2100uz

Happy Snaps,

John Curtis
http://www.pbase.com/johncurtis/yosemite
--
John C
Outstanding job, John! I must confess, I did not do a search, but what about a similar composite comparing IS / no IS with UZI on a tripod. Apparently for this application, according to most opinions, no IS should be better. Your composite technique would show the result (whatever it is) with no ambiguity. (Forgive me if this test has already been done!)
Thanks for posting your work!

Jerry
 
Terry,

I think just about everyone recognizes the IS to be very effective and is one of the UZI/RS most important features. I think eventually even Daniella will buy one. It has to really be eating at her. JD
Daniella,
Do you think that is why Oly supposedly discontinued the UZI
because Image Stabilization isn't really necessary? And you don't
have any problem holding it steady at full zoom on 1/10 sec? Wow!!
Simply amazing! I always thought the heavier camera would be more
stable. JD
 
Jerry,

Why would there be any difference comparing IS / no IS using a tripod? Maybe there is somthing I don't understand about IS, but if there is no movement of the camera, shouldn't the two shots be the same? Also, if the subject is moving, does IS help in some regard with slower shutter speeds when the light is poor?

Thanks in advance.

Wayne
Outstanding job, John! I must confess, I did not do a search, but
what about a similar composite comparing IS / no IS with UZI on a
tripod. Apparently for this application, according to most
opinions, no IS should be better. Your composite technique would
show the result (whatever it is) with no ambiguity. (Forgive me if
this test has already been done!)
Thanks for posting your work!

Jerry
 
Terry, it's not just a claim she makes.... look at her galleries.
And I think there's something to be said that if she can get good
handheld shots, other people can too. Not necessarily everyone, but
probably quite a few. It's a matter of technique and practice.
Now if you don't have the time or patience to get that technique
down, or have too much caffeine in your diet (not a joke - I shot
target rifles in high school and this was a major point from our coach
for holding steady!), then IS can be a big help.

I've read a lot of her posts too, and noticed that sharpness is very
important to her in her pictures. If she wasn't getting that with her 700,
why would she like it so much? She tried the Uzi with IS, but found the
700 was better for her.

Also, please remember that English is not Daniella's native language,
and while she expresses herself very well, the tone and intent of people's
words don't always come across as intended in writing -- even for those
whose only language is English.

I simply see her expressing her opinion no different than anyone
else here, and it's a welcome (and I think needed) balance.
Please, continue to discuss the point (IS, or not to IS), but
also be careful of the tone in which you express your opinions.

In this particular case, regardless of your intent, your comments
could very easily be seen as a personal attack. The 700 and 2100
have many similarities, and a few key differences. If IS isn't important
to someone due to having good skill/talent/technique the manual
white balance does become one of the most important discriminators.

...and before anyone gets in a huff, I consider myself to be
first in line in the "impatient with poor technique" crowd.
Probably too much caffeine too.
Daniella,
Do you think that is why Oly supposedly discontinued the UZI
because Image Stabilization isn't really necessary? And you don't
have any problem holding it steady at full zoom on 1/10 sec? Wow!!
Simply amazing! I always thought the heavier camera would be more
stable. JD
 
Interesting comparison....

In the picture of the two signs, you can clearly see the movement
of the camera across the top of where it says "Parking Restricted".

The dumpster picture on the other hand, looks more like a focus problem,
and seems to have more noise as if taken at a lower ISO setting.
Can you check the EXIF info to verify?
See why C2100UZ owners are selling their tripods!

I have two composite photos showing the benefit of the Oly C2100UZ
stabilized lens. Now if we can only keep our subjects still.

http://www.pbase.com/johncurtis/c2100uz

Happy Snaps,

John Curtis
http://www.pbase.com/johncurtis/yosemite
--
John C
 
John Perilloux wrote:
The IS is really something, isn't it, John? Check this IR photo at
1/20s, hand-held: http://www.pbase.com/image/420876
Beautiful! That's one area where the IS really shines. When I shot IR with my old 2020 I had to use a tripod on every shot with my Hoya R72 IR filter. I was so happy being able to sharp handheld IR shots as a result of the IS on my 2100. Beautiful shot by the way. Here'a a few of mine...Bob
http://www.pbase.com/mofongo/infrared

-- http://www.pbase.com/mofongo 'Freedom of speech is wonderful - right up there with the freedom not to listen.'
 
Also, please remember that English is not Daniella's native language,
and while she expresses herself very well, the tone and intent of
people's
words don't always come across as intended in writing -- even for
those
whose only language is English.
I think the French to English jump sometimes makes her statements appear more aggressive than she intends. I wish I had her steady hands, but I need the help of IS. -- http://www.pbase.com/julivalley/galleries21oo , B-3oo3o4oJuli
 
I check your photos quite often, Bob, and they're great. The R72 gives some pleasing effects in certain settings.

What I find really remarkable about the C-2100UZ and my IR photos is that the R87 filter is opaque black and it still allows hand-held at 1/20s.
Beautiful! That's one area where the IS really shines. When I shot
IR with my old 2020 I had to use a tripod on every shot with my
Hoya R72 IR filter. I was so happy being able to sharp handheld IR
shots as a result of the IS on my 2100. Beautiful shot by the way.
Here'a a few of mine...Bob

http://www.pbase.com/mofongo/infrared--http://www.st-charles.net/menu.htmhttp://freepages.music.rootsweb.com/~eagle/menu.htm
 

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