Reading mode: Light Dark

New Epson PRO on Monday 9/25

Go to last post
Ben

The inkjet art website says the matt/gloss back change over is small. Compared to the 4800 or even the r2400 this is a big deal. And the not using roll paper makes for a smaller and cheaper printer. Roll paper does have problems like sometimes too much curl. To bring the price and size down some features have to be left out. I have access to a 4000 at school and I see how big it is. The 3800 will fly off the shipping docks if the print quality is as good as the other K3 printers. I am looking forward to online reviews of the 3800.
william
http://www.wcmitchell.com
 
Tom-C said:
What were they thinking?
Click to expand...
That there are many like myself who don't care that it doesn't use roll paper.

I currently have a 2200, and have never used the roll paper feature. I'll gladly sacrifice it for affordability and a form factor that I can fit in my available space - neither of which I had with the 4000 or 4800.
 
SantaFeBill said:
That there are many like myself who don't care that it doesn't use roll paper.
Click to expand...
Would be interesting to see how many R2400 users use the roll paper feature.

Roll paper is mainly very useful for glossy RC papers and canvas. Thick fine art papers curl too much for my taste from roll.

Uwe
 
How many does Epson have for the R2400 and of the few there is what's the cost per foot?

For someone doing a size that comes in sheet form there would be no advantage in doing it on roll paper.

Pro printer roll paper is priced much better per foot but you need to buy more to get it unless you buy cut down rolls for smaller models.
 
William Mitchell said:
Ben
The inkjet art website says the matt/gloss back change over is
small. Compared to the 4800 or even the r2400 this is a big deal.
And the not using roll paper makes for a smaller and cheaper
printer. Roll paper does have problems like sometimes too much
curl. To bring the price and size down some features have to be
left out. I have access to a 4000 at school and I see how big it
is. The 3800 will fly off the shipping docks if the print quality
is as good as the other K3 printers. I am looking forward to online
reviews of the 3800.
william
http://www.wcmitchell.com
Click to expand...
The ink thing is not a big deal, its just that I would only print color and with one paper type, so the second black would be a waste.

I agree on rolls, but I get really mad thet the entire industry from frames, mattes, and papers ignore 35MM format. I don't have a clue why they do this. How hard would it be to make 2x3 aspect ratio products?

If I can't print an uncroped image at 16x24, the printer is absolutly worthless to me. Might as well stick to a 13 wide where at least I can do 12x18.

But reading the press release, I see nothing to indicate it could print 16x24, looks like ugh 16x20 is the max, what and ugly aspect ratio that is.

--
http://www.pbase.com/roserus

Ben
 
SantaFeBill said:
Tom-C said:
What were they thinking?
Click to expand...
That there are many like myself who don't care that it doesn't use
roll paper.

I currently have a 2200, and have never used the roll paper
feature. I'll gladly sacrifice it for affordability and a form
factor that I can fit in my available space - neither of which I
had with the 4000 or 4800.
Click to expand...
How do you print 16x24? Thats all I care about, I don't want roll, just the full size of my image. I don't pay tons of money on a camera to crop off the edges.

--
http://www.pbase.com/roserus

Ben
 
Tom-C said:
I use roll paper for printing panoramas with my R2400. If the 3800
allows arbitrary paper lengths, I guess I could live with
precutting the paper off of the roll.

Just have to wait and see.
Click to expand...
Thats what is not clear, whats the maximum print length? And could you buy a roll and cut your own sheets? I don't print large yet, instead, I print my 16x24 at MPIX where I need to order a 20x30 cut down. Thats one reason I am wanting to do my own printing.
Tom-C said:
Tom
Click to expand...
--
http://www.pbase.com/roserus

Ben
 
that is mentioned on the IJA site (see 4th bullet)?

http://www.inkjetart.com/Epson_3800_Pro/

It would seem this feed mechanism provides the potential to feed longer sheets or roll paper if you rig up some type of holder. I hope someone from Epson, or someone that has used the printer can comment on this because I want to use the machine for panoramas.
 
John Triebe said:
that is mentioned on the IJA site (see 4th bullet)?
Click to expand...
Thanks, nto real clear what the maximum print size is, but eleswhere is says it can do 17x22 sheets, which is still too short.
John Triebe said:
http://www.inkjetart.com/Epson_3800_Pro/

It would seem this feed mechanism provides the potential to feed
longer sheets or roll paper if you rig up some type of holder. I
hope someone from Epson, or someone that has used the printer can
comment on this because I want to use the machine for panoramas.
Click to expand...
I would be ok cutting off a piece of roll and feed it if that works.

--
http://www.pbase.com/roserus

Ben
 
Hi ben & All,

Agree! If Epson (and others) would make available 16x24 sheet in most of the various papers, then I would not only use these with my 4800 but would also consider the 3800. I too would not be able to use 17 x22 sheets for most of my images as the aspect ratio would leave too much of the image cropped (and lost) to make it a viable option. I'm surprised Epson and others have not addressed this issue since the photo maket is a sizeable percentage of their users.

Dave
 
Dave said:
Hi ben & All,

Agree! If Epson (and others) would make available 16x24 sheet in
most of the various papers, then I would not only use these with my
4800 but would also consider the 3800. I too would not be able to
use 17 x22 sheets for most of my images as the aspect ratio would
leave too much of the image cropped (and lost) to make it a viable
option. I'm surprised Epson and others have not addressed this
issue since the photo maket is a sizeable percentage of their users.

Dave
Click to expand...
Guess we could print 14.6 x22 and trim on a 17x22 sheet, but thats only slightly better than 12x18 on a 13x19. We need custom mats anyway, nobody makes the correct sizes.

There must be a huge market for 2x3 aspect. But go to Micheals and its as if everyone was till using a Brownie camera.

--
http://www.pbase.com/roserus

Ben
 
I have just been talking to a salesman at Epson and he told me that the 3800 will not be available in Australia until November. Easier to change from Matte to Photo inks, but no roll holder or paper cutter. Retail price has not yet been set, but expected to be about AU$2200. Ink costs will be more than with the 4800.
--
eric burrows
 
Hi Ben,

I completely agree with your statements below. For the longest time (years) I remeber that portfolio books were unavailable for the common "ink jet size" sheets of paper...and now the market is flooded with them. Mat sizes are now just beginning to appear locally and regulary for the common ink jet paper sizes. Hopefully the paper and printer manufacturers will wake up too and se that there is a sizeable percentage of large format printer users who would rather work with 16x24 sheets (with certain papers) than rolls. Guess time will tell.

Dave
 
Do you think there is a chance of a third party roll adaptor? Or perhaps a new 17x25 paper size? I imagine the RIP will be necessary for any solutiion longer than 22"? It really would complete this printer.
LJ
 
it's pretty much a given that a RIP will let you go up to 100 feet in length, we still don't have any idea the length the driver will let you print. Past Pro printers let you do 92 inches, and desktop machines let you do 44. Time will tell.
--
Webmaster and Tech Support guy at inkjetart.com and thebairs.net
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Keyboard shortcuts

f
Forum
m
My threads
Mobile site
About
Editorial content
Cameras & Lenses
Community
All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998–2025 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved.
Reproduction in whole or part in any form or medium without specific written permission is prohibited.
When you use DPReview links to buy products, the site may earn a commission.
©GPS Media - Guides, Products, Services.
Back
Top