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Well, let's see:
1. New seller, no rating.
2. Seller lists a "hotmail" email address.
3. Seller lists items (15) at less that 1/3 of price from reputable dealers.
4. Seller lists items which only authorized dealers can purchase and sell
5. 2 lbs. shipping wt. for a kit where the body weighs 2.5 lbs.
6. Contact Info doesn't list a real name or location, just a hotmail address

As one of those who has reported a bunch of scams on eBay, this smells like scam to me, I think those 8 folks who are winning bidders are about to be very unhappy folks. Looks like eBay isn't the only place. If you are a uBid user, I'd suggest you email uBin right away, I'm going to.
Anton Sheker said:
I need your help! i was reading the forums here and saw scams from
ebay
and am thinking this is the same thing but at a different site!

paging all SCAMBUSTERS!!!

Another too good to be true auction

D1x 15 pcs for $1,500 @

http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=522646119

would like to hear feedback from you people
Thank you very much.

--
Anton
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--Bill Deweywww.deweydrive.com
 
Wow, What a deal this would be.. Do you realize that you could buy all 15 units at prices up to $2000 each and double your money in a month..

As usual, if it sounds too good to be true it usually is... Can you imagine that so many people have already took the bait.. Last I looked there were 8 suckers... errr.. I mean bidders on that item... ;)
Anton Sheker said:
I need your help! i was reading the forums here and saw scams from
ebay
and am thinking this is the same thing but at a different site!

paging all SCAMBUSTERS!!!

Another too good to be true auction

D1x 15 pcs for $1,500 @

http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=522646119

would like to hear feedback from you people
Thank you very much.

--
Anton
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--Frank B
 
Also take a look at the following auctions on uBid, which I did by simply going back to "Digital Cameras" and scrolling. All of these are new sellers, no ratings, much of the same as I reported on the first D1X aution:

521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on "Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5 units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting this stopped.
Anton Sheker said:
I need your help! i was reading the forums here and saw scams from
ebay
and am thinking this is the same thing but at a different site!

paging all SCAMBUSTERS!!!

Another too good to be true auction

D1x 15 pcs for $1,500 @

http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=522646119

would like to hear feedback from you people
Thank you very much.

--
Anton
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--Bill Deweywww.deweydrive.com
 
I appreciate all your help!!!

I already wrote Ubid and hope to get a reply soon... didnt want
the others to fall prey to such a scam...

Anton
Bill Dewey said:
521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on
"Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5
units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting
this stopped.
Anton Sheker said:
I need your help! i was reading the forums here and saw scams from
ebay
and am thinking this is the same thing but at a different site!

paging all SCAMBUSTERS!!!

Another too good to be true auction

D1x 15 pcs for $1,500 @

http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=522646119

would like to hear feedback from you people
Thank you very much.

--
Anton
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--
Bill Dewey
http://www.deweydrive.com
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You are most welcome. These folks really annoy me, although it is difficult to understand why folks will pay for this stuff. I can almost understand people who bid just to be annoying, but it doesn't stop this behavior.

Good catch, Anton, it looks like they are expanding their range :-).
Anton Sheker said:
I already wrote Ubid and hope to get a reply soon... didnt want
the others to fall prey to such a scam...

Anton
Bill Dewey said:
521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on
"Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5
units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting
this stopped.
Anton Sheker said:
I need your help! i was reading the forums here and saw scams from
ebay
and am thinking this is the same thing but at a different site!

paging all SCAMBUSTERS!!!

Another too good to be true auction

D1x 15 pcs for $1,500 @

http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=522646119

would like to hear feedback from you people
Thank you very much.

--
Anton
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--
Bill Dewey
http://www.deweydrive.com
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--Bill Deweywww.deweydrive.com
 
Keep in mind that if you bid at uBid "just to be annoying" you can inadvertantly win the auction and there is nothing you can do to stop your card from being charged.

I'm actually a happy customer of uBid, in fact I'm posting this from a refurbished Sony laptop that I purchased from them. However I never buy from their "consumer exchange" members, and always use my American Express card which carries excellent consumer protection for online purchases.

Ivan
Bill Dewey said:
You are most welcome. These folks really annoy me, although it is
difficult to understand why folks will pay for this stuff. I can
almost understand people who bid just to be annoying, but it
doesn't stop this behavior.
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Very good points, Ivan. I didn't mean to imply that "bidding to be annoying" is a good idea, in fact I think it is just a slight bit less offensive than the scammers out there. I was referring to a couple of things I have seen on eBay, where someone obviously bid really high to be annoying, also a clear violation of eBay policy.

I believe that with a modicum of care, and Caveat Emptor in mind, buying from these sites is a very good thing, it sure has saved me a ton of money.
Ivan Histand said:
I'm actually a happy customer of uBid, in fact I'm posting this
from a refurbished Sony laptop that I purchased from them. However
I never buy from their "consumer exchange" members, and always use
my American Express card which carries excellent consumer
protection for online purchases.

Ivan
Bill Dewey said:
You are most welcome. These folks really annoy me, although it is
difficult to understand why folks will pay for this stuff. I can
almost understand people who bid just to be annoying, but it
doesn't stop this behavior.
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--Bill Deweywww.deweydrive.com
 
I just sent this email to Ubid. Hope it helps....:
-----------------------------------------
Dear Ubid,

I’m writing to you because I believe your good services are being abused by some people to scam others. By doing this they do not only cheat good people of their money, but they also hurt the good reputation of online bidding and your company.
The link to one of their auctions is:
http://www.ubid.com/actn/opn/getpage.asp?AuctionId=522646119

There is already a discussion going on about Ubid and these scams on internet. You can read about it on: http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=2010622

One of the participants mentioned even more scams at your services:
 Also take a look at the following auctions on uBid, which I did by
Anton Sheker said:
simply going back to "Digital Cameras" and scrolling. All of these
are new sellers, no ratings, much of the same as I reported on the
first D1X aution:

521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on
"Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5
units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting
this stopped.
Click to expand...
The same thing happened on Ebay. Even the FBI got (finally) involved. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=1922488

I hope I’ve been able to help you to stop this kind of behaviour and make the internet a safer and happier place for all (but the criminals).
Sincerely,
Bert Kuijer

--curzon from Holland
 
Curzon from Holland said:
There is already a discussion going on about Ubid and these scams
on internet. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=2010622

One of the participants mentioned even more scams at your services:
 Also take a look at the following auctions on uBid, which
I did by
Curzon from Holland said:
simply going back to "Digital Cameras" and scrolling. All of these
are new sellers, no ratings, much of the same as I reported on the
first D1X aution:

521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on
"Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5
units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting
this stopped.
Click to expand...
The same thing happened on Ebay. Even the FBI got (finally)
involved. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=1922488

I hope I’ve been able to help you to stop this kind of
behaviour and make the internet a safer and happier place for all
(but the criminals).
Sincerely,
Bert Kuijer

--
curzon from Holland
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Bert,

Unfortunately your good intentions may go unheaded. Here's a quote from the Ubid.com site regarding "Consumer Exchange" auctions:

"Note: All inquiries for returns from Consumer Exchange auctions must be directed to the seller. uBid is not responsible for items sold through these auctions and will not act as liaison between seller or buyer at any time. To learn more about how to resolve an issue with a Consumer Exchange seller click here."

Once agin, and as always; it's buyer beware! If a deal is too good to be true it generally is.

Thanks for taking the time though. Just reading your post may help others from making a $1500 mistake.
--Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honoluluwww.DiveSlates.com
 
Hello Michael,
I know, read the small print. Officially they're not responsible.

However if enough people complain then - maybe - they feel moral obligated to take action. And if they realy don't have any morals, then maybe their economical senses will take over: bad press scares customers, scares advertisers, declines income,...

So, everyone who is annoyed as I am, pick up your pen/mouse/keyboard and write/mail to these websites and make them responsable for what's going on through their services!!!

And if my writing can help just one person in the whole world and prefent him from being scamed, it was worth the effort.
Bert
Michael OHara said:
Bert,
Unfortunately your good intentions may go unheaded. Here's a quote
from the Ubid.com site regarding "Consumer Exchange" auctions:

"Note: All inquiries for returns from Consumer Exchange auctions
must be directed to the seller. uBid is not responsible for items
sold through these auctions and will not act as liaison between
seller or buyer at any time. To learn more about how to resolve an
issue with a Consumer Exchange seller click here."

Once agin, and as always; it's buyer beware! If a deal is too good
to be true it generally is.

Thanks for taking the time though. Just reading your post may help
others from making a $1500 mistake.

--
Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honolulu
http://www.DiveSlates.com
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--curzon from Holland
 
I, as well, saw that "fine print" before I sent my email this morning, but I think it is important to let them know. I also saw the comment regarding the FBI and the latest eBay scam with netsolutions55 and Blue Chip Electronics. That was one that I was watching from the start, and alerting eBay as well. I often think this is just tilting at windmills, but what the heck, you have to give it a try, right? I'm just amazed that so many folks seem to be getting taken in by this stuff.
Curzon from Holland said:
And if my writing can help just one person in the whole world and
prefent him from being scamed, it was worth the effort.
Bert
Michael OHara said:
Bert,
Unfortunately your good intentions may go unheaded. Here's a quote
from the Ubid.com site regarding "Consumer Exchange" auctions:

"Note: All inquiries for returns from Consumer Exchange auctions
must be directed to the seller. uBid is not responsible for items
sold through these auctions and will not act as liaison between
seller or buyer at any time. To learn more about how to resolve an
issue with a Consumer Exchange seller click here."

Once agin, and as always; it's buyer beware! If a deal is too good
to be true it generally is.

Thanks for taking the time though. Just reading your post may help
others from making a $1500 mistake.

--
Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honolulu
http://www.DiveSlates.com
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--
curzon from Holland
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--Bill Deweywww.deweydrive.com
 
Here's a weird notion that occurred to me today. While the seller may well be a fraud, he hasn't actually defauilted on his auctions yet. I suppose that's his angle, strike fast and disappear. My point is, what can Ebay or Ubid actually do until this guy defaiults on sending the goods???
Bill Dewey said:
Curzon from Holland said:
And if my writing can help just one person in the whole world and
prefent him from being scamed, it was worth the effort.
Bert
Michael OHara said:
Bert,
Unfortunately your good intentions may go unheaded. Here's a quote
from the Ubid.com site regarding "Consumer Exchange" auctions:

"Note: All inquiries for returns from Consumer Exchange auctions
must be directed to the seller. uBid is not responsible for items
sold through these auctions and will not act as liaison between
seller or buyer at any time. To learn more about how to resolve an
issue with a Consumer Exchange seller click here."

Once agin, and as always; it's buyer beware! If a deal is too good
to be true it generally is.

Thanks for taking the time though. Just reading your post may help
others from making a $1500 mistake.

--
Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honolulu
http://www.DiveSlates.com
Click to expand...
--
curzon from Holland
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--
Bill Dewey
http://www.deweydrive.com
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--Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honoluluwww.DiveSlates.com
 
If they were my sites and my reputation, I would whack any auction of this type that is just far too good to be true. Given that they are not my sites and that it costs a great deal of time to research these things, what they do on eBay is to take a look at emails sent to Safe Harbor and then determine if fraud is going on, and eBay does shut down many of these auctions. I have no clue about uBid, this is the first I've seen of them. Since uBid and eBay control the site, they certainly have the power to shut down these auctions. They could, and I wish they would, also put better controls in place to prevent this kind of thing.
Michael OHara said:
Bill Dewey said:
Curzon from Holland said:
And if my writing can help just one person in the whole world and
prefent him from being scamed, it was worth the effort.
Bert
Michael OHara said:
Bert,
Unfortunately your good intentions may go unheaded. Here's a quote
from the Ubid.com site regarding "Consumer Exchange" auctions:

"Note: All inquiries for returns from Consumer Exchange auctions
must be directed to the seller. uBid is not responsible for items
sold through these auctions and will not act as liaison between
seller or buyer at any time. To learn more about how to resolve an
issue with a Consumer Exchange seller click here."

Once agin, and as always; it's buyer beware! If a deal is too good
to be true it generally is.

Thanks for taking the time though. Just reading your post may help
others from making a $1500 mistake.

--
Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honolulu
http://www.DiveSlates.com
Click to expand...
--
curzon from Holland
Click to expand...
--
Bill Dewey
http://www.deweydrive.com
Click to expand...
--
Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honolulu
http://www.DiveSlates.com
Click to expand...
--Bill Deweywww.deweydrive.com
 
Curzon

Here's the problem with screaming FIRE everytime there is a deal that seems too good to be true. If you have ever sold anything on Ebay or services like that you often set the item starting bid at a price that attracts buyers. The starting price could be way below what you may have paid for that item.. In the end, enough bidders will bid the price of that item up to a point where the free market sets the real selling price. If not the seller simply ends the auction. Every seller has a right to do this. How many auctions start at $1 and have no reserve? TONS.. Does that mean that all these auctions and sellers are scams? I think not..

A deal that seems too good to be true usually is BUT.. No one has the right to report anyone based on a possibility that it's a scam.. Feedback systems are designed to aid a bidder. If someone bids on a big ticket item without looking into the seller then shame on him...

This is starting to remind me of the witch hunts of the past..
Curzon from Holland said:
There is already a discussion going on about Ubid and these scams
on internet. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=2010622

One of the participants mentioned even more scams at your services:
 Also take a look at the following auctions on uBid, which
I did by
Curzon from Holland said:
simply going back to "Digital Cameras" and scrolling. All of these
are new sellers, no ratings, much of the same as I reported on the
first D1X aution:

521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on
"Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5
units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting
this stopped.
Click to expand...
The same thing happened on Ebay. Even the FBI got (finally)
involved. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=1922488

I hope I’ve been able to help you to stop this kind of
behaviour and make the internet a safer and happier place for all
(but the criminals).
Sincerely,
Bert Kuijer

--
curzon from Holland
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--Frank B
 
Hold on a minute, Frank. Did you look at the auction that Curzon mentioned? These are not starting bids, but are much like the Dutch auctions on eBay. From a brand new seller, who has suddenly come into 15 brand new D1X US sets, which by the way can only be sold by authorized dealers, at less than 1/3 I, personally, did a lot of research before sending an email to uBid, just as I do on eBay, and I have not been wrong yet. I don't see anyone screaming FIRE at things that seem to be deals almost too good to be true at all. What research have you done to think otherwise? Did you see something about either the particular auction the Curzon mentioned or the others that I found that make you think they are legit? I'd love to know what you found that we have missed.

By the way, the first auction is closed now, earlier than listed at the price of $1500. And several of the others have now just disappeared. It looks to me as if uBid took this seriously as well.
Frank Benvenuto said:
Here's the problem with screaming FIRE everytime there is a deal
that seems too good to be true. If you have ever sold anything on
Ebay or services like that you often set the item starting bid at a
price that attracts buyers. The starting price could be way below
what you may have paid for that item.. In the end, enough bidders
will bid the price of that item up to a point where the free market
sets the real selling price. If not the seller simply ends the
auction. Every seller has a right to do this. How many auctions
start at $1 and have no reserve? TONS.. Does that mean that all
these auctions and sellers are scams? I think not..

A deal that seems too good to be true usually is BUT.. No one has
the right to report anyone based on a possibility that it's a
scam.. Feedback systems are designed to aid a bidder. If someone
bids on a big ticket item without looking into the seller then
shame on him...

This is starting to remind me of the witch hunts of the past..
Curzon from Holland said:
There is already a discussion going on about Ubid and these scams
on internet. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=2010622

One of the participants mentioned even more scams at your services:
 Also take a look at the following auctions on uBid, which
I did by
Frank Benvenuto said:
simply going back to "Digital Cameras" and scrolling. All of these
are new sellers, no ratings, much of the same as I reported on the
first D1X aution:

521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on
"Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5
units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting
this stopped.
Click to expand...
The same thing happened on Ebay. Even the FBI got (finally)
involved. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=1922488

I hope I’ve been able to help you to stop this kind of
behaviour and make the internet a safer and happier place for all
(but the criminals).
Sincerely,
Bert Kuijer

--
curzon from Holland
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--
Frank B
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--Bill Deweywww.deweydrive.com
 
Bill,

Please don't misunderstand.. I am not saying that the auctions you and others have found are not Scams.. Certainly they may turn out to be..

Regrading Dutch style auctions.. I know how they work.. The $1500 is still a STARTING bid.. When the 16th person bids the price of $1500 will go up to the lowest bid in the 16.. The $1500 is still the starting bid..

No feedback is a FLAG but Remember, EVERYONE who sells anything on an auction site starts out with No feedback.. That fact certainly does not make the new seller a scam artist..

Would I bid on this auction.. Hell No.. Could I sit in judgment as to whether or not it's legit? No I can't...
Bill Dewey said:
By the way, the first auction is closed now, earlier than listed at
the price of $1500. And several of the others have now just
disappeared. It looks to me as if uBid took this seriously as well.
Frank Benvenuto said:
Here's the problem with screaming FIRE everytime there is a deal
that seems too good to be true. If you have ever sold anything on
Ebay or services like that you often set the item starting bid at a
price that attracts buyers. The starting price could be way below
what you may have paid for that item.. In the end, enough bidders
will bid the price of that item up to a point where the free market
sets the real selling price. If not the seller simply ends the
auction. Every seller has a right to do this. How many auctions
start at $1 and have no reserve? TONS.. Does that mean that all
these auctions and sellers are scams? I think not..

A deal that seems too good to be true usually is BUT.. No one has
the right to report anyone based on a possibility that it's a
scam.. Feedback systems are designed to aid a bidder. If someone
bids on a big ticket item without looking into the seller then
shame on him...

This is starting to remind me of the witch hunts of the past..
Curzon from Holland said:
There is already a discussion going on about Ubid and these scams
on internet. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=2010622

One of the participants mentioned even more scams at your services:
 Also take a look at the following auctions on uBid, which
I did by
Bill Dewey said:
simply going back to "Digital Cameras" and scrolling. All of these
are new sellers, no ratings, much of the same as I reported on the
first D1X aution:

521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on
"Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5
units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting
this stopped.
Click to expand...
The same thing happened on Ebay. Even the FBI got (finally)
involved. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=1922488

I hope I’ve been able to help you to stop this kind of
behaviour and make the internet a safer and happier place for all
(but the criminals).
Sincerely,
Bert Kuijer

--
curzon from Holland
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--
Frank B
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--
Bill Dewey
http://www.deweydrive.com
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--Frank B
 
Frank, here is what I do on eBay.

I first look at feedback, the very best indicator. I then look at the location of the auction vs. the location the seller registered from. I then look at the viability of the product being sold at the price listed. I also look at payment options, often the scammers only want Western Union or Wire Transfer. Then I look at the add itself, many of them are just copies of other adds with photos right off the manufacturer site. If these flags all pop up, then I'll alert eBay.

By the way, I like Dutch auctions. So far I've never had to pay more than the minimum, which is nice :-).
Frank Benvenuto said:
Please don't misunderstand.. I am not saying that the auctions you
and others have found are not Scams.. Certainly they may turn out
to be..

Regrading Dutch style auctions.. I know how they work.. The $1500
is still a STARTING bid.. When the 16th person bids the price of
$1500 will go up to the lowest bid in the 16.. The $1500 is still
the starting bid..

No feedback is a FLAG but Remember, EVERYONE who sells anything on
an auction site starts out with No feedback.. That fact certainly
does not make the new seller a scam artist..

Would I bid on this auction.. Hell No.. Could I sit in judgment as
to whether or not it's legit? No I can't...
Bill Dewey said:
By the way, the first auction is closed now, earlier than listed at
the price of $1500. And several of the others have now just
disappeared. It looks to me as if uBid took this seriously as well.
Frank Benvenuto said:
Here's the problem with screaming FIRE everytime there is a deal
that seems too good to be true. If you have ever sold anything on
Ebay or services like that you often set the item starting bid at a
price that attracts buyers. The starting price could be way below
what you may have paid for that item.. In the end, enough bidders
will bid the price of that item up to a point where the free market
sets the real selling price. If not the seller simply ends the
auction. Every seller has a right to do this. How many auctions
start at $1 and have no reserve? TONS.. Does that mean that all
these auctions and sellers are scams? I think not..

A deal that seems too good to be true usually is BUT.. No one has
the right to report anyone based on a possibility that it's a
scam.. Feedback systems are designed to aid a bidder. If someone
bids on a big ticket item without looking into the seller then
shame on him...

This is starting to remind me of the witch hunts of the past..
Curzon from Holland said:
There is already a discussion going on about Ubid and these scams
on internet. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=2010622

One of the participants mentioned even more scams at your services:
 Also take a look at the following auctions on uBid, which
I did by
Frank Benvenuto said:
simply going back to "Digital Cameras" and scrolling. All of these
are new sellers, no ratings, much of the same as I reported on the
first D1X aution:

521815222 Canon D30, 1 unit, $810
522174787 Canon 1D, 1 unit, $1201

What is interesting about these first two is that they are on
"Final Call" but were supposed to end in December.

522626870 (my favorite of the bunch) F5, 5 lenses, brand new, 5
units, $2500. Heck, last time I looked an F5 wasn't even digital.
522627439 Nikon D1X, 5 units, $1725
522646119 Nikon D1X, 15 units, $1500

Contact uBid, the more of us who do the better chance of getting
this stopped.
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The same thing happened on Ebay. Even the FBI got (finally)
involved. You can read about it on:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=1922488

I hope I’ve been able to help you to stop this kind of
behaviour and make the internet a safer and happier place for all
(but the criminals).
Sincerely,
Bert Kuijer

--
curzon from Holland
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Frank B
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Bill Dewey
http://www.deweydrive.com
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Frank B
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--Bill Deweywww.deweydrive.com
 
I've also sent an email to Ebay on that other scam. This is the response I received today from Ebay. After that you'll find my email to them.

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Hello Bert,

Thank you for taking the time to alert us to these listings.

After reviewing the information that you have provided, we have
determined that the auctions were in violation of eBay's listing
policies. We have therefore taken action and ended the auctions.

For more information on our listing guidelines, please visit our policy
page at the following URL:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-list.html

We wish you a continued successful relationship with us, and we would
also like to thank you for being an asset to the eBay trading community!

Regards,
Zane
eBay Community Watch
*******************************************


Original Message Follows:
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Dear ebay,
I saw an auction of several Nikon D1 digital cameras for a low price.
One of their auctions:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1313861055
In this peticular auction the offer 50 (fifty!!) cameras for $2400 each.
Since the price is very low, I'm hesitating to buy one.
Even more since I found a discussion about these guys on the forum
for digital cameras on dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=1922488
There are almost 60 people who contributed on this discussion and none
did
receive
a honest answer, let alone a camera!!

I know you can be hold resposable for the contents of every auction, but
since this really starts to look
like a real scam (abusing the good name of ebay) I would like to ask you
to
check this "dealer" out
and - if needed - stop his auctions.

Thank you,
Bert Kuijer

--curzon from Holland
 
I thought this was interesting...I sent an email to the two people who were selling the cheap D1x cameras.

I received two emails both saying that the camera comes with USA warranty and all the accessories. The kicker is that they came from two different hotmail accounts but they both had the same name "Lucas Scott" and the UBID items listed the contact as two different camera stores.

They indicated that they take credit cards. I wonder if they live in another country and this a way to steal credit cards.

Allan
 
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