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Just noticed this. I saw the thread on the Japanese site but if you flip the jp in the address to EN you get the english version of the roadmap. Just in case no one noticed, sorry. I'm pretty excited as I just put money down on the new K10D myself (to join its brother the DS in my camera bag) so when I saw the other thread on the japanese roadmap, I had to post it here. If already posted, my apologies. Enjoy!!!

http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf

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Joseph
You can't depend on your eyes if your imagination is out of focus.
-Mark Twain
 
A 17-70mm? Do we really need another standard zoom?

I would think the 16-45, 16-50 and 18-55 would be enough...

Unless the 17-70 will be the new "mid-range" lens sitting between the 18-55 and 16-50 and replacing (in price) the 16-45...

Doug
 
I kind of thought that myself as well. I just wonder if the difference is that this will be weather-sealed, USM, etc....and thus replacing the 16-45. The one thing that I wondered about the 16-45 was despite the excellent quailty it had, the barrel zooming in and out like it did wasn't something that I thought was well-designed. Don't take me wrong, I'm no expert, perhaps it had to be that way. But I look at the 18-55 and it handles so nicely. Maybe the new 17-70 would be all of the above (sealed, USM) and have some sort of internal zooming mechanism (I don't know what the technical term would be).

Anyhow...the fact that more and more lens are popping up.....makes me think we will be very happy these next few years!

Joseph
photovoyager said:
A 17-70mm? Do we really need another standard zoom?

I would think the 16-45, 16-50 and 18-55 would be enough...

Unless the 17-70 will be the new "mid-range" lens sitting between
the 18-55 and 16-50 and replacing (in price) the 16-45...

Doug
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Joseph
You can't depend on your eyes if your imagination is out of focus.
-Mark Twain
 
Sure, something a bit better than the kit with a bit more range, and not super expensive like the DA* lenses are likely to be.
I'll take one.
photovoyager said:
A 17-70mm? Do we really need another standard zoom?

I would think the 16-45, 16-50 and 18-55 would be enough...

Unless the 17-70 will be the new "mid-range" lens sitting between
the 18-55 and 16-50 and replacing (in price) the 16-45...

Doug
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Kristian Farren
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I think a 17-70mm lens is great! It offers just a little more reach than the 18-55mm. I think it will be a good all around lens. Especially if it is faster like the Sigma 17-70mm (2.8-4.5). I'm excited about it!

I'm also glad to see a 70-300mm in the line up.

The only bad thing is that it will be a while before these lenses are available...

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-Brent

 
Hi Matt,

You're right. I didn't think of it like that. I forgot that we can change the subject header and thus no need for a new thread. I let the excitement of this news get the best of me on this one.

Anyhow...thanks for pointing this out. It's appreciated. I'll be more careful in the future.

Joseph
KL Matt said:
Hi Joseph,

Wouldn't it have been better to simply post this to the existing
thread on this topic? That way, all the people who have been
looking at the Japanese roadmap would see the english one. I don't
see why we would need to start a separate thread for this.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=20124251

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-Matt
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Joseph
You can't depend on your eyes if your imagination is out of focus.
-Mark Twain
 
Hi Joseph,

no appologies necessary, I didn't mean to be cranky. I'm just having a hard time navigating the forum as of late and have realized it's not only because of all the new threads and all the new people, but also because all the new threads are doubled, tripled, and quadrupled! Often, all on the first page!

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Take it easy,

-Matt
 
Ha ha...no worries. Didn't take it as you being cranky. After I read what you said, it totally made sense. (Smacked my head with the preverbial "d'oh!" reaction!). You are right. Lots of action. I've only been around here a year or so and haven't posted too much but its amazing what has happened to this forum over the last couple of weeks. Anyhow. I'll try not to post back here to further confuse the double thread that I created. Just wanted to say thanks and no bad thoughts on my side. I've always enjoyed your posts so I didn't take it badly.

Take care.
KL Matt said:
Hi Joseph,

no appologies necessary, I didn't mean to be cranky. I'm just
having a hard time navigating the forum as of late and have
realized it's not only because of all the new threads and all the
new people, but also because all the new threads are doubled,
tripled, and quadrupled! Often, all on the first page!

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Take it easy,

-Matt
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Joseph
You can't depend on your eyes if your imagination is out of focus.
-Mark Twain
 
IF they were going to go the whole hog with weather sealing, USM etc then they would be DA*.
Joseph D said:
Anyhow...the fact that more and more lens are popping up.....makes
me think we will be very happy these next few years!

Joseph
photovoyager said:
A 17-70mm? Do we really need another standard zoom?

I would think the 16-45, 16-50 and 18-55 would be enough...

Unless the 17-70 will be the new "mid-range" lens sitting between
the 18-55 and 16-50 and replacing (in price) the 16-45...

Doug
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Joseph
You can't depend on your eyes if your imagination is out of focus.
-Mark Twain
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Joseph D said:
Just noticed this. I saw the thread on the Japanese site but if
you flip the jp in the address to EN you get the english version of
the roadmap. Just in case no one noticed, sorry. I'm pretty
excited as I just put money down on the new K10D myself (to join
its brother the DS in my camera bag) so when I saw the other thread
on the japanese roadmap, I had to post it here. If already posted,
my apologies. Enjoy!!!

http://www.digital.pentax.co.jp/en/lens/roadmap.pdf

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Joseph
You can't depend on your eyes if your imagination is out of focus.
-Mark Twain
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I like the 17-70, because 50 or 55 is not enough on the long end. I think this zoom length is a perfect complement to a fast 'normal' 50 or (coming) 55 prime. I hate the current zoom 'break' at 45/50/55. Right at this length is where I want to 'tweak' the framing composition, not mess with switching lenses. The 'type' of picture changes at 70, where the sweet spot for most photos (for me anyway) is near 50. Since in a zoom the best results will probably come from the middle of the range (least amount of design compromises), I see it as a perfect lense to photograph 'places'. A 70-85 range for 'people' (covered close enough with my 77) and a longer telephoto for birds, sports or for when I'm too lazy to jump the fence and inevitably get chased by rent-a-cops. I like the clear subject type/lens break at 70 not 50.

I would hope for me personally they make it a fast constant, but I would expect it will be the new 'kit' lense which I think is a brilliant move. It's too bad the roadmap is 2007 and 'after'.
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Yes, Pentax needs another standard zoom. Many are buying the Sigma 17-70 because Pentax doesn't offer one, so it seems like it's needed...

I don't expect the 17-70 to be as good performing as the 16-45, the 16-45 is a mid market zoom, the 17-70 would be like the 18-55 but with longer reach.

I expect only the professional oriented -lenses to have supersonic motors and weather seal, not the consumer optics.

Take care
R
 
Roland Mabo said:
Yes, Pentax needs another standard zoom. Many are buying the Sigma
17-70 because Pentax doesn't offer one, so it seems like it's
needed...

I don't expect the 17-70 to be as good performing as the 16-45, the
16-45 is a mid market zoom, the 17-70 would be like the 18-55 but
with longer reach.
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Maybe the 17-70 will be the new kit lens, and the 18-55 will be phased out. A bigger range for the kit lens would be a strong selling point, especially for P&S users moving up to an entry level DSLR.

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The 17-70 will be an add-on to the existing range, it won't replace an existing DA.

With film bodies, we had FA (J) 28-80/90 f/3.5-5.6, FA 28-105 f/3.2-4.5 and FA 24-90 f/3.5-4.5.

Now we're going to have 18-55, 17-70 and 16-45. Looks good to me. :)
There's room for them all.
Low priced kit with 18-55, higher up kit with 17-70 and for a premium the 16-45.

It's the distributor that makes the kit, not Pentax Japan. The lens and the body comes in separate boxes from the factory. In Sweden the Pentax DSLR's are sold in three kits.
18-55, 16-45 or 18-55 + 50-200.

Take care
R
 
I would love to get the pentax 17-70mm but it looks like it won't be here for a while. I may be getting the Sigma after all.

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-Brent

 
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