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You're correct, different color space (sRGB vs. aRGB) are not supposed to look different. Color mode is what makes the colors different, and since ACR ignores camera curves and other color settings, isn't it also ignoring the color mode setting? Thus Mode Ia and Mode II images look exactly the same when opened with ACR?
I'd like to know too. I was gonna upgrade to D200 from D70, partly due to the IR issue...
I stand corrected=)
Try B+W 486 filters, they help a lot with the D70.
Yah, unfortunately the B+W 486 doesn't seem to be available anywhere in my country, and I don't really want to mail order filters. Anyway, due to various other reasons, I've now decided to buy a Canon 30D.
Unfortunately that's where I'm leaning, as well.
I'm not quite sure what he was getting at either. Bear this in mind: you normally (always!) save JPEGS in sRGB because of the fact that many JPEG viewers aren't color space aware and default to sRGB. So if you switch colorspaces in mode II from the in-camera aRGB default to sRGB during JPEG conversion, then you'll lose whatever difference was caused by the aRGB profile when viewed in Capture. I think what he's saying is that Nikon doesn't add significant manipulations in saturation, contrast, brightness, etc. in II relative to I or Ia. The differences you see are mostly attributable to the different default color spaces (sRGB for the I's and aRGB for II).
ACR's handling of the reds in my example picture, even in sRGB, was far better than NC.
Limited to reds, though, I don't think Ia is any better than IIIa, and may even be worse.
With respect to this topic you need to explain carefully what you did and what you mean. Both NC and ACR allow you to make all sorts of color/saturation/brightness, etc. adjustments in the RAW conversion. You can get to virtually the same place with either tool. It's just that NC "packages" some manipulations in each color mode as a starting point. ACR just starts you at a neutral point with respect to these basic manipulations.
As noted, you can use the NC raw editing tools to correct for overly saturated reds if that's what you're seeing. It's not an inherent limitation of NC you're dealing with, it's an overly aggressive presetting associated with the color modes and the fact that NC takes into account these camera settings and ACR doesn't (by default). Some of the problems you're seeing can be attributable to the narrower gamut of sRGB itself, but of course this is an inherent limitation of the colorspace, not the RAW engine you're using.
Surprisingly it does about the same to reds as Nikon in ModeIa,
with even more shift towards orange (but purple remains correct on
Canon)
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Henrik
Yes, I got D70 after an Olympus C8080, and immediately noticed the ModeIa red-problem, the little Oly was much better in this aspect - but I find ModeII quite acceptable
According to that rule, if I did my math right, matrix metering (with Komins114 curve) over exposed by about 1 stop. However, I really think the exposure is decent because the sky and everything lit by the sun looks bright, as it should. I don't think it should have been exposed for the paper, for example. I could easily turn it down a stop in NC for demonstration purposes, of course.
Then I'm not so hot on their IIIa package. II seems mostly superior (among the Nikon-supplied choices), even since Morris claims it's overexposed and Mode II STILL showed some red detail.
I'm realizing that now, yeah. Color mode is just another modification, just like curves.
I find this disappointing, of course, because I am starting to really dislike IIIa.
