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David Birkenfeld said:
Any idea of the US pricing of the V-Lux1
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US MSRP is $799.99

It's basically l$150 more expensive than the Panasonic FZ50 ($200 more if you look at current FZ50 prices) which is the SAME camera with a Panasonic brand label and without PS Elements 4.0 and a 512MB SD card included. The FZ50 and V-Lux1 are even manufactured in the SAME factory by the SAME factory workers.

If you just want/need a good all-in-one camera get the FZ50. You can get a fast 2GB SD card from Newegg.com or Amazon for around $40. And there's no way Elements 4.0 and the word "Leica" is worth $110.

Don't get me wrong. Despite the high price of the new M8 I'd say the M8 is worth every penny. However, the V-Lux1 is just a "rebadged" FZ50 with an overpriced 512MB card and PS Elements.

I just bought the FZ50 as a family and vacation camera and it's wonderful ... for what it is. As much as I love the FZ50, I wouldn't pay $800 for this camera. ($600 ... yes. $800 ... no.)
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JJJPhoto said:
David Birkenfeld said:
Any idea of the US pricing of the V-Lux1
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US MSRP is $799.99

It's basically l$150 more expensive than the Panasonic FZ50 ($200
more if you look at current FZ50 prices) which is the SAME camera
with a Panasonic brand label and without PS Elements 4.0 and a
512MB SD card included. The FZ50 and V-Lux1 are even manufactured
in the SAME factory by the SAME factory workers.

If you just want/need a good all-in-one camera get the FZ50. You
can get a fast 2GB SD card from Newegg.com or Amazon for around
$40. And there's no way Elements 4.0 and the word "Leica" is worth
$110.

Don't get me wrong. Despite the high price of the new M8 I'd say
the M8 is worth every penny. However, the V-Lux1 is just a
"rebadged" FZ50 with an overpriced 512MB card and PS Elements.

I just bought the FZ50 as a family and vacation camera and it's
wonderful ... for what it is. As much as I love the FZ50, I
wouldn't pay $800 for this camera. ($600 ... yes. $800 ... no.)
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After reading this I was hoping that the captures from the Leica might look a little different:

"In relation to color matching, contrast and picture definition, Leica Camera has developed its own profile. This is oriented to the picture characteristics that are well known to Leica System Camera customers from their use in combination with professional film materials and specialist development laboratories."

Found here:

Would the Leica name not be better for re-sale of the camera?

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The Leica offers ISO 80 (the Panasonic FZ50 starts at ISO 100). If they really worked on the NR firmware, this one could be a winner, despite the higher price tag.
 
other rebadged cameras had the exact same hardware, including the lens and CCD. The firmware will be different as specified by Leica. You will most likely get a much better warranty and better software with the Leica. For the price, many, including me, think it can be worth the extra $.

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the lieca does not have iso 80 but leica may have tweaked the image quality. photoshop elements 4 instead of silkypix for raw elements does not address raw images.
 
The UK price is £590 for the v-lux and £390 for the FZ50 . according to Simons spec list on the FZ50 it says ISO80. I was hoping Leica would have added their profiles to reduce the amount of noise above ISO400. If not why pay an extra £200 . I can pick red spots up for 2p each.

Lots of companies use OEm's for hardware but 99% of the time add there touches. Lets hope Leica do not think we are that foolish.

I hope Phil or Simon can give us a 2 page comparison review as we tend to trust their judgement and in some cases can make or break a purchase.
 
the same incorrect 80 iso information was also put out for the FZ50.

these cameras are identical except perhaps for some leica image quality tweaking and badging.
 
mikesyxthsense said:
I hope Phil or Simon can give us a 2 page comparison review as we
tend to trust their judgement and in some cases can make or break a
purchase.
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Phil says they will try to get a Leica vs "Lumix" shoot out posted for these cameras before Christmas:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1038&message=20045541

Like you, I also trust their judgement knowing they will look for things that I might never think to look for...
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Now the pixels are really hitting the fan...
 
Both Specification sheets show ISO 80. Is this not correct?

Don
 
A quote from Leica goes as follows

The Leica camera has different firmware to the Panasonic model, which give a better image. The camera is supplied with a bigger media card and Adobe Elements software

Now what that means ?
 
bob fel said:
go to buyers guide in menu {top left page} do side by side
comparison of these 2 cameras .
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Yes I see what you are saying but there are differences I went to Leica's site and they have some different specs posted on their own site then what is posted here at dpreview unless leica is just saying that which really don't make no sense at all. Because you are going to see the specs befroe you buy either one.
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mikesyxthsense said:
The UK price is £590 for the v-lux and £390 for the FZ50 .
according to Simons spec list on the FZ50 it says ISO80. I was
hoping Leica would have added their profiles to reduce the amount
of noise above ISO400. If not why pay an extra £200 . I can pick
red spots up for 2p each.
Lots of companies use OEm's for hardware but 99% of the time add
there touches. Lets hope Leica do not think we are that foolish.
I hope Phil or Simon can give us a 2 page comparison review as we
tend to trust their judgement and in some cases can make or break a
purchase.
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I feel the same way I am hoping Leica tweaked the sensor enough where it needed to be tweaked and that can knock out quite a bit of nosie. I know I was reading and they say if done properly most of the noise can be eliminated just through the processing of the senosr with the engine. I hope that they did tweak it enough to get good results. I know that if to much pushing of the sensor and engine just like a computer you can start with overheating just like overclocking a processor in the computer.
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Joe D
God Bless And Have A Nice Day



my Little Girl Shyanne



S&W 4' 500 Magnum
A Winning Pair
 
Joe said:

"I am hoping Leica tweaked the sensor enough where it needed to be tweaked and that can knock out quite a bit of nosie"

The 'Leicasonic' V-LUX1 simply HAS TO BE better than the FZ50.

It would be more than the reputation of even a firm like Leica could stand simply to pop an unaltered FZ50 into a Leicasonic box and charge a much higher price for the camera plus a label, a memory card and a bit of software. They wouldn't be that stupid.
 
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