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If you have 14-54mm f2.8-3.5 and shoot at 800iso wide open on 1/30s, you get not so good photo because your Olympus camera sucks on high ISO, with prime lens 14mm f1.4 you can shoot same picture at 200iso with f1.4 and 1/30s. Why is this so hard understandable for people in Olympus? Before 30 years 200iso was high speed film and 64iso was normal speed, but guess what photographers used f2 and f1.4 prime lenses!!!

And please do not tell me that 14-35mm f2 will solve the problem; it will be too big and too expensive!!!

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I just did a quick google and couldnt find any 14mm lenses faster than f2.8?

Nor any 28mm either but im not sure on that one
 
ok found a nikor 28mm f2 and a leica, but well i wouldnt want to pay for either
 
dMatic said:
... with prime lens 14mm f1.4 you can shoot same picture
at 200iso with f1.4 and 1/30s....
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dMatic said:
And please do not tell me that 14-35mm f2 will solve the problem;
it will be too big and too expensive!!!
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you are joking, aren't you?

A Nikon 28/1,4 costs something around 2500 US $ and this is not a telecentric design...
 
brucemc66 said:
I just did a quick google and couldnt find any 14mm lenses faster
than f2.8?
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Given the FOV, you should look for 28mm lenses faster than f/2.8, and these definitely exist.
brucemc66 said:
Nor any 28mm either but im not sure on that one
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A few jump immediately to mind:

24mm f/1.4 (Canon)
28mm f/1.8 (Canon)
28mm f/1.4 (NIkon)

And for those who are wondering about the cost of such 28mm lenses faster than f/2.8, the Canon 28mm f/1.8, to give one example, is definitely affordable ($400.00) (USD).

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Cephalotus said:
dMatic said:
... with prime lens 14mm f1.4 you can shoot same picture
at 200iso with f1.4 and 1/30s....
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Cephalotus said:
And please do not tell me that 14-35mm f2 will solve the problem;
it will be too big and too expensive!!!
Click to expand...
you are joking, aren't you?

A Nikon 28/1,4 costs something around 2500 US $ and this is not a
telecentric design...
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But a Canon 28mm f/1.8 costs only $400 US, and is great for what it allows. And while it's true that it's f/1.8 vs. f/1.4, you can easily compensate by increasing the ISO as Canon's noise advantage more than negates the difference. One could always buy it and a new body to put it on, if need be, for much less than the Nikon, and start shooting. :)

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...scheduled to bring out an f1.4 25mm lense for 4/3rds.

I think the point about faster glass ameliorating the need for very high isos is well made, but as others have pointed out you have to pay for the priveledge of using it no matter who manufactures it.

The leica M8 will probably cost little more than an Oly f2 piece of glass and you can pick up 35, 50mm cron's for a 'reasonable' sum... too.

I'm looking forward to what Leica offers 4/3rds... but I expect to have to dig deep in my pockets for it... and I may decide to jump ship anyway given I have M glass.

However, Oly lenses most certainly don't suck!

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Brian G. said:
And for those who are wondering about the cost of such 28mm lenses
faster than f/2.8, the Canon 28mm f/1.8, to give one example, is
definitely affordable ($400.00) (USD).
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The quick search on that lens throws up a test that reveals it suffers noticeable barrel distortion, unacceptably soft corners down to f4, low contrast wide open, and noticeable chromatic aberrations. So while affordable, it isn't exactly a great example of why Olympus need to make some primes.

Also I wonder how much space and weight will be taken up by a 14 f2 + 25mm f2 + 35mm f2 when compared to the 14-35mm f2. And how would they be priced?
 
That's quite a thread you started there! Especially when you consider that Oly lenses are award winning ones and generally regarded with respect. Oly make excellent lenses. Period. There is no one camera/lens set up for all occasions. It's a bit like a guitarist wanting to use just one guitar for evrything from rock to classical to blues to jazz. It just dont happen. The M 8 is one that I am seriously interested in but it will be an as well as rather than an instead of.
 
to explain to them how to properly design cameras and lens for this new day and age! :)))
dMatic said:
If you have 14-54mm f2.8-3.5 and shoot at 800iso wide open on
1/30s, you get not so good photo because your Olympus camera sucks
on high ISO, with prime lens 14mm f1.4 you can shoot same picture
at 200iso with f1.4 and 1/30s. Why is this so hard understandable
for people in Olympus? Before 30 years 200iso was high speed film
and 64iso was normal speed, but guess what photographers used f2
and f1.4 prime lenses!!!

And please do not tell me that 14-35mm f2 will solve the problem;
it will be too big and too expensive!!!

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Nikkor 28mm f1.4 AF-D was $1400 at BHphoto, now it is discounted, they will make 28 and 85 f1.4 in AF-S.

Canon L 24mm f1.4 is $1119 US or $1089 imported at BHphoto
Sigma 20mm f1.8 is $409
Sigma 28mm f1.8 is $269

and so on...

Olympus 14mm can be made at f1.4 for $1200 or less with telecentric design don't forget x2 factor.

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Guess I am not the only guy asking for good fix focal with decent speed then ...

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How about an image to illustrate your point. I shoot weddings, portraits, and events and have no problem with ISO 800, and the 14-54mm is an excellent lens -- period! ISO 800 is ISO 800 is ISO 800 regardless of what lens you are using, and just for the record, ISO 200 film hasn't been considered a 'fast' film for many years. I've shot enough 35mm ISO 400, 800, 1600, and 3200 film to know that it all had a very high grain level. I can understand your desire to have fast prime lenses as a photojournalist, however, it seems to me that if you are so unhappy with your Olympus equipment and you are really a professional photojournalist, you need to switch to Nikon or Canon and take advantage of the fast primes that are available from those maker -- rather than post more negative nonsense about Olympus lenses.

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