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I was outbid yesterday on Ebay for a factory demo 17-55 lens. I bid $900, but it went for $1100. I got an email "from Ebay", the next day saying that the seller is offering me a second chance because the highest bidder could not pay. I thought that was strange because I was about the 5th highest bidder, not second. I saw that they were asking me to "pay now" by sending money via "westen union". That was strange because the original seller excepted paypal and all major credit cards. I logged on to Ebay and saw that I had no messeges, so the original email was not from Ebay. I dont know how he got my email, quite clever. Be real carefull out there! Some people have no conscience!

Do you have another scam story that can protect others?
 
This is one of the common schemes which abound to try to separate you from your money. eBay has a link to report such scams, so please send it in.

There is a legitimate 'second chance' option but you won't be asked to send a money order!! ;)

Regards,

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I have received bogus emails and have forwarded them to [email protected] so that ebay can follow up on them and maybe someone will be caught at trying to scam the public. The emails which I received looked VERY good but did not come from ebay.com which is the give away. They did look like they were from a sub domain though.
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... never respond to eBay messages in your email. They created their own secure messaging system now because of all the sleeze bags out there.

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You can safely buy on eBay if you realize that, like everywhere these days, people are savvy and you will never get a "steal" on there ...

You can save money, but only on used equipment or on grey market. Also on cheap knock offs from Hong Kong ... for example light tents for $20.

I like eBay because there are things on there that just cannot be found easily anywhere else.

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I put my D70 on eBay and I got an email/eBay message:

My son in Africa needs D70 right away. I will pay $1000 for your camera. Please send me your PayPal name/email/...

I wrote back: Sorry, your offer is generouse but you can get a new D70s for $700.

Anyways, others posted to my listing saying that that guy was a scam.

My D70 'sold' for $430, but the 'winner', who had ZERO (buy/sell/feedback), emailed me in 3rd grade English:
I went to store and they say I pay too much. I don't want camera.

Being nice about it, I just did the 'dispute': buyer/seller agree not to complete transaction thing.

Now, I got to decide to relist the camera or just keep it.
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Iamdaniel123 said:
Do you have another scam story that can protect others?
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I had a shill bidder once, but it wasn't for a photographic item. eBay and PayPal "protection" barely worked. If you buy, even with PayPal, use a CC with fraud protection. PayPal will only pay you back only if it can recover the money from the auctioneer, which generally will be (a) with reputable auctioneers who want to continue to be good PayPal users or (b) if the perpetrator hasn't cashed-out his PayPal account.

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Every time I bid on something, I get those rediculous "second chance" notices. I have bought a few items off of ebay over the years and the transactions all went fine; however the amount of fraud that spins off in the form of bogus "second chance" notices, e-mails saying my pay pal account will be cancelled so on and so forth is nothing short of astounding to me. I always forward them to ebay and I always get the same 2 form return emails advising me how to avoid fraud and that the matter has been referred to the "appropriate authorities" whomever that may be (probably the "round file").

Lots of good people selling lots fo good stuff on ebay, but underneath it all is a scammers paradise for the unwary and either ebay won't commit the resources to stomping it out or simply can't.

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I've been getting those 2nd chance emails too... I was putting lowball bids on particular items just to follow them and see what the final price would be... never really meant to buy them, so when I had a 2nd chance to buy a NIB Nikon 20-300 f/2.8 AF-S etc for $2.00, I was kind of excited! lol...

Anyway... I bought a DVD of an out of print movie from New Zealand called The Quiet Earth... the guy had a ton of good references... it arrived and was clearly a home burn with home printed artwork. I reported this to eBay... the guy is not only still selling on eBay, but he's still selling that same title! So much for copyright protection...

Geoff
 
I received an email informing me that my paypal account had been locked due to suspected fraud. I was told to follow a link to verify my information to have the lock released. I went to the paypal site from outside of the email and found that my account was not locked. When looking a little closer at the email I found that the only link that worked took me to a page asking for my user name, password, and bank account information. The email looked like it was from paypal, but I'm sure it was a phisher. Phishing seems to be a big scam to be aware of now, and I had not heard anything about it until looking into this fraudulent email.
 
FYI,

Real PayPal e-mails will never say something like "Dear Member". They will ALWAYS have your user ID or real name.

I always hover over the links to any "PayPal" e-mail I receive, even the seemingly legit ones simply to make sure the link in the e-mail is to a PayPal domain.

Regards,

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Anyone can email a bidder on an open eBay sale. That is how he got your email.
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Motordrive said:
I had a shill bidder once, but it wasn't for a photographic item.
eBay and PayPal "protection" barely worked. If you buy, even with
PayPal, use a CC with fraud protection. PayPal will only pay you
back only if it can recover the money from the auctioneer, which
generally will be (a) with reputable auctioneers who want to
continue to be good PayPal users or (b) if the perpetrator hasn't
cashed-out his PayPal account.
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Don't think that's true. I bought a cell phone that arrived locked and could not be used. When I bought it the seller had 100% good feedback...by the time my phone arrived, he had received several bad "he's a crook" feedbacks. After a lot af grief he finally agreed to refund my money, but only after he had recieved the phone back. I shipped it, never heard back. Went to eBay/PayPal dispute center and it worked like a charm. Takes awhile, but worked. I seriously doubt they got any money back from the seller.

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Precisely, if a guy walked up to me in the street and offered me a D80 for $100 would you buy it - not if I thought about it for a nano second.

There are good sellers and rogues on eBay, the only 100% safe buying behaviour is "go to the store" :-)

Dave
 
No legitimate organisation will ever ask you to verify your details over the web, OK. They have backups of everything they need to run your bank account, paypal account, whatever, if things turn pear shaped they recover it.

Stay safe, do nothing, the delete button is your best friend :-)

Dave
 
Iamdaniel123 said:
I thought that was strange
because I was about the 5th highest bidder, not second. I saw that
they were asking me to "pay now" by sending money via "westen
union". That was strange because the original seller excepted
paypal and all major credit cards.
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Hi...
If you read at the bottom of all eBay Adds, you will see this

"eBay prohibits the use of instant cash transfer services such as Western Union or Moneygram"

So what does that automatically tell about this seller, or the person saying he is the seller? And if you are unsure about it and still think that you want the item, ask the seller to send it COD.. If you get a instant NO or no answer to your email, well you have just saved your $$$....

But in either case, I would still report the seller to eBay, as it could save some other person grief & $$$...
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