HP 8750 vs new HPs

I have a fairly new HP 8750 (less than 50 prints) when my network killed the printer. HP has offer an exchange for roughly $200. My question is this:

Is HP's newer printers better?

I do both color and B&W and bought the printer for the occasional larger prints. I do not "have" to have 13x19 capacity but was a good option along with being able to network it.

Any options would be greatly appreciated.
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I love the way the 8750 prints..beautifully. I'm using a gloss laquer to make them moisture proof with a low pressure spray gun [the laquer is waterbased] So with the new 9180 printer out I have the same question, Is it better in that it is waterproof only? the reason I ask is because my next printer was/is going to be the DJ130. This is a great year for ink jet printers,will just have to wait and see.

Gino

The 8750 is a photo repro printer that is professional class yet designed for occasional use without problems associated with pigment printers.

The new A3+ printer is a pigment printer that is for fine art matte and semi matte media, for proofing offset, and good colour printing. There is a difference to the rendering on the media that pigments create that I feel dyes (8750) do better.

So 200$ will get you excellent colour and B&W on the right media Premium Plus which are swellable polymer surfaced, yet the new 9180 is for other types of media which may be a little less photographic.

Hard to say, but maybe the 8750 is a simpler, more practical printer for straight forward photo printing.

Neil Snape photographer Paris http://www.neilsnape.com

colourgeek said:

Hard to say, but maybe the 8750 is a simpler, more practical
printer for straight forward photo printing.

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Hello Neil,

I was very interested in the 8750 and was going to buy one when I saw the release of B9180. The problem is HP has yet to decide whether or not to release the 9180 here in Hong Kong so I am seriously looking at the 8750 again to replace my 2000P (could not stand the metamerism). I understand that you have tested both printers extensively. Would it be fair to say that apart from the ability to print on different medium and "waterproofingness" of the prints, prints (BW or Colour) produced by 8750 on dedicated paper are comparable to those produced by 9180?

Thanks.

simckk said:

colourgeek said:

Hard to say, but maybe the 8750 is a simpler, more practical
printer for straight forward photo printing.

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Hello Neil,

I was very interested in the 8750 and was going to buy one when I
saw the release of B9180. The problem is HP has yet to decide
whether or not to release the 9180 here in Hong Kong so I am
seriously looking at the 8750 again to replace my 2000P (could not
stand the metamerism). I understand that you have tested both
printers extensively. Would it be fair to say that apart from the
ability to print on different medium and "waterproofingness" of the
prints, prints (BW or Colour) produced by 8750 on dedicated paper
are comparable to those produced by 9180?

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I know top HP people were in Asia last week , hopefully that will bring good news.

I actually think on the two media surfaces swellable type (many sizes) OEM from HP produce better results photographically speaking on the 8750. B&W printing on the 8750 would be hard to be bettered by any other printer outside of esoteric third party solutions. Colour on the 8750 is very nice, rich and smooth. The included profiles are good but not as exacting as the new 9180 , nor a custom profile. The advantage of HP Vivera dyes is lightfastness and stability. Whereas other dye printers have a huge gamut, they just are not stable, nor lightfast even when using swellable media. HP is the leader now in both dye and pigment in permanence and lightfastness.

I still like dyes a lot. Still printing wonderful images on my HP DJ 130 and will do so for many years.

So depending on your style of printing, your desire to sell prints, and or share prints will point you in the right direction. Both are good at what they are made for, but both have different character of output.
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Based on experience, can anybody compare how thirsty is 8750 compared to the DJ line. I know these are misers but, if somebody can quantify it.

Thanks

Marek

Okay the 8750 compared to the new 9180 will still be the least expensive B sized pigment printer to run. Yet a 8750 compared to a DJ dye? Just to be clear the 8750 is more expensive to print than Epson or Canon equivalents. Not that much more and certainly not if you consider when you change cartridge you change the head ensuring an always new printer state. It is extremely rare to ever have a printing problem with the 8750 compared to others in it's class especially over time.
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Got it.

Thanks Neil.

Regards

Marek

Hi Neil,

Which printer do you think would have truer colors for portrait work? The 9180 or 8750?

thanks.

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GaryOS said:

Hi Neil,

Which printer do you think would have truer colors for portrait
work? The 9180 or 8750?

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They both cover skin tones with no problems at all. The 9180 has better stock profiles which I like better. A custom profile on the dye printer has near perfect screen to print match and the darkest point is many times darker than any pigment printer can be. The B&W on glossy of course is exceptional on the dye as that is way outside of the ideal situation for pigments at this point.
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