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If the K10D does not have a PC socket then what would be the options if I would need to fire both a flash and radio slaves as I do regularly? Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?

Many Thanks,
 
I dont believe so. However I must admit I generally dont use both at the same time.
Ben Rubinstein said:
If the K10D does not have a PC socket then what would be the
options if I would need to fire both a flash and radio slaves as I
do regularly? Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there
adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?

Many Thanks,
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Steve
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As far as I know there is no PC synch socket on the K10D.

Pentax do/did have a range of flash show adapters that allowed for off camera flash with full P-TTL capability.

The AF540FGZ may have some sort of synch ability since it has an extra plug that may work with the off camera adapters - here are some pictures I took of some months ago:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=17461179

Why don't you download the manual and see?
Ben Rubinstein said:
If the K10D does not have a PC socket then what would be the
options if I would need to fire both a flash and radio slaves as I
do regularly? Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there
adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?

Many Thanks,
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The Pentax adapters only work with the 5 line synch cords prioprietary to Pentax so cannot be used to pwer strobes. If you use a PC sync hotshoe adapter you lose the ability to add a PTTL flash to the hotshoe.
mpixel said:
Pentax do/did have a range of flash show adapters that allowed for
off camera flash with full P-TTL capability.

The AF540FGZ may have some sort of synch ability since it has an
extra plug that may work with the off camera adapters - here are
some pictures I took of some months ago:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=17461179

Why don't you download the manual and see?
Ben Rubinstein said:
If the K10D does not have a PC socket then what would be the
options if I would need to fire both a flash and radio slaves as I
do regularly? Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there
adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?

Many Thanks,
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Steve
Measurebating makes you short sighted.
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Do you mean that they synch cords don't go to shoes? I thought there were optional shoes that could be used to take the cords.
*isteve said:
mpixel said:
Pentax do/did have a range of flash show adapters that allowed for
off camera flash with full P-TTL capability.

The AF540FGZ may have some sort of synch ability since it has an
extra plug that may work with the off camera adapters - here are
some pictures I took of some months ago:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=17461179

Why don't you download the manual and see?
Ben Rubinstein said:
If the K10D does not have a PC socket then what would be the
options if I would need to fire both a flash and radio slaves as I
do regularly? Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there
adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?

Many Thanks,
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Steve
Measurebating makes you short sighted.
http://www.pbase.com/steve_jacob
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mpixel said:
Do you mean that they synch cords don't go to shoes? I thought
there were optional shoes that could be used to take the cords.
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Yes
http://www.adorama.com/PXHSAFG.html

but they cant be used to trigger studio strobes, only pentax flashes, and you cant mount a flash on camera. A standard PC Sync hotshoe adapter on the other hand cant fire a PTTL flash, even if it has a hotshoe plate.
Neither can a hotshoe mounted radio slave trigger, only a PC attached one.

Lack of PC synch is not a problem for me, I generally use 2 flashguns and the wireless trigger on the *istD. If thats missing as well I'm sunk!
mpixel said:
*isteve said:
mpixel said:
Pentax do/did have a range of flash show adapters that allowed for
off camera flash with full P-TTL capability.

The AF540FGZ may have some sort of synch ability since it has an
extra plug that may work with the off camera adapters - here are
some pictures I took of some months ago:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=17461179

Why don't you download the manual and see?
Ben Rubinstein said:
If the K10D does not have a PC socket then what would be the
options if I would need to fire both a flash and radio slaves as I
do regularly? Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there
adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?

Many Thanks,
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Steve
Measurebating makes you short sighted.
http://www.pbase.com/steve_jacob
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Steve
Measurebating makes you short sighted.
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There are hot shoe (non-dedicated, non-TTL) adapters that can fire flashes connected via PC cords. If you are looking for Pentax LX style dedicated PC cords that support TTL flashes you are probably out of luck.
Ben Rubinstein said:
If the K10D does not have a PC socket then what would be the
options if I would need to fire both a flash and radio slaves as I
do regularly? Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there
adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?

Many Thanks,
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Hi Steve,

Sorry, I didn't see your reply until now.

I actually went through all this a long time ago with Racehorse when I was looking at Pentax flash options.

There is a Hot Shoe Adapter F which lets you place another flash on top of the camera and still attach the Sync Cable F either to another flashgun like the AF540FGZ or to the Off Shoe Adapter F.

You or the OP could use either a slave trigger or a hotshoe to PC Sync adapter in the Pentax shoes.

The only thing is that you may not be able to get them in the UK. I asked my camera shop to ask Pentax UK about these items and also about obtaining additional AF360FGZs 15 months ago. Pentax didn’t bother to get back to them so I bought a couple of Sigma 500 DG guns instead (Sigma came back the same day).
*isteve said:
mpixel said:
Do you mean that they synch cords don't go to shoes? I thought
there were optional shoes that could be used to take the cords.
Click to expand...
Yes
http://www.adorama.com/PXHSAFG.html

but they cant be used to trigger studio strobes, only pentax
flashes, and you cant mount a flash on camera. A standard PC Sync
hotshoe adapter on the other hand cant fire a PTTL flash, even if
it has a hotshoe plate.
Neither can a hotshoe mounted radio slave trigger, only a PC
attached one.
Lack of PC synch is not a problem for me, I generally use 2
flashguns and the wireless trigger on the *istD. If thats missing
as well I'm sunk!
*isteve said:
*isteve said:
mpixel said:
Pentax do/did have a range of flash show adapters that allowed for
off camera flash with full P-TTL capability.

The AF540FGZ may have some sort of synch ability since it has an
extra plug that may work with the off camera adapters - here are
some pictures I took of some months ago:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=17461179

Why don't you download the manual and see?
Ben Rubinstein said:
If the K10D does not have a PC socket then what would be the
options if I would need to fire both a flash and radio slaves as I
do regularly? Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there
adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?

Many Thanks,
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Steve
Measurebating makes you short sighted.
http://www.pbase.com/steve_jacob
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Steve
Measurebating makes you short sighted.
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Ben, Maybe if you drew a diagram of what you need. I thought I gave you a parts list that could give you p-TTL for an on-board flash, radio control module off camera and pc sync sockets for "dumb" strobes. I'm obviously missing something you require but can't see it. On thing is the parts may not be easily found though most are.

This goes on camera allowing a p-TTL flash to go on top. Has a socket for a 5p sync cord



Run the cord to another module



Now you have a choice. Put either a radio control unit on this or
one of these.



and put the radio control on top or run sync cables to dumb strobes...

p-ttl remote large strobes that you refer to do not exist, or at least the modules don't as far as I know.

Not sure of the timing issue through the pc sync. It would probably energize twice.... so if wired to strobes you would need a pulse counter type unit to ignore the 1st pulse but I don't think you would even need the pc socket w/ the radio control unit sitting on the second hot shoe.
What am I missing?????
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Ben Rubinstein said:
Is there a PC socket on the 540 flash, are there
adaptors that provide PC sync with full PTTL ability?
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yes, pentax offer some dedicated adaptors for full ability, see above.

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*isteve said:
The Pentax adapters only work with the 5 line synch cords
prioprietary to Pentax so cannot be used to pwer strobes. If you
use a PC sync hotshoe adapter you lose the ability to add a PTTL
flash to the hotshoe.
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Why don't you just make your own cable: 5 line Pentax on one side, PC sync on the other. If you connect the cables that goes to the central contact and to ground, it could just work fine for the non dedicated flashes.

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Jeff, that is genius! Just one thing, does the adaptor lock onto the camera like the flash does?

Getting closer to a pentax wedding system!
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Buy the best first time round, it's far cheaper and better for your sanity in the long run....
 
Not sure, from the looks of them I do not see a locking mechanism but I could be missing something. I use a 4p off camera flash cable (normal TTL) and the part that slides into the hot shoe does not screw down. It is a very good fit and have had no problems of it sliding or creeping unexpectedly. My useage pattern is quite different though. 5-p cables lock tight with a screw lock.



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