SD9/SD10 photo processing using Linux

Is there anyone here that is processing their pictures on a Linux machine? If so what are you using for software?

Does anyone know if Sigma has any plans to port SPP over to Linux?

Anyway, I'm curious because if it is a problem processing Sigma images on Linux I will have have to buy a camera that has proven to be supportable with OSS and Linux. I've done some Googling and find a site or two that show that there is some driver support for some of the Nikons, Canons, etc... The SD9/10 were listed but that was all. There were no OSS drivers or support shown for either camera.

I really like the technology Sigma is using think it has a superior image quality, but Windows is out of the question. It is not an option.

BTW, has anyone tried running SPP under Wine? And, no I said that correctly. I didn't mean "under the influence of" Wine..... ;-)

You don't have to run Windows in order to run SPP. There is a Mac version and although it doesn't process quite as fast as the Win version it does work well.

Freddy Freeloader said:

Is there anyone here that is processing their pictures on a Linux
machine? If so what are you using for software?

Does anyone know if Sigma has any plans to port SPP over to Linux?

Anyway, I'm curious because if it is a problem processing Sigma
images on Linux I will have have to buy a camera that has proven to
be supportable with OSS and Linux. I've done some Googling and
find a site or two that show that there is some driver support for
some of the Nikons, Canons, etc... The SD9/10 were listed but that
was all. There were no OSS drivers or support shown for either
camera.

I really like the technology Sigma is using think it has a superior
image quality, but Windows is out of the question. It is not an
option.

BTW, has anyone tried running SPP under Wine? And, no I said that
correctly. I didn't mean "under the influence of" Wine..... ;-)

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I was able to run SPP 2.1 on Red Hat Fedora Core 5 using Wine...didn't notice any problems. No problems with the install, either.

Freddy Freeloader said:

Is there anyone here that is processing their pictures on a Linux
machine? If so what are you using for software?

Does anyone know if Sigma has any plans to port SPP over to Linux?

Anyway, I'm curious because if it is a problem processing Sigma
images on Linux I will have have to buy a camera that has proven to
be supportable with OSS and Linux. I've done some Googling and
find a site or two that show that there is some driver support for
some of the Nikons, Canons, etc... The SD9/10 were listed but that
was all. There were no OSS drivers or support shown for either
camera.

I really like the technology Sigma is using think it has a superior
image quality, but Windows is out of the question. It is not an
option.

BTW, has anyone tried running SPP under Wine? And, no I said that
correctly. I didn't mean "under the influence of" Wine..... ;-)

Click to expand...

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'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.'

• Arthur C. Clarke -

I was able to run spp using wine in Kubuntu back in the spring and I compared output images to my windows versions and found no differences using identical settings. You should be fine using it in wine. It was pretty peppy too considering it was running on a laptop and through the wine compatibility layer. Now getting the camera to connect via firewire and having it talk to spp in wine was a no go, but I always used the card reader anyway so not a real issue.

-Brandon
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Brandon Jackson
http://blog.jacksonphotodesign.com

miketuthill said:

You don't have to run Windows in order to run SPP. There is a Mac
version and although it doesn't process quite as fast as the Win
version it does work well.

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Well, I guess I could have made my post clearer.

I'm not too crazy about running a Mac either. I would most likely have to buy new hardware to run OSX, as well as the OS, and I don't think OSX would have the necessary drivers for my existing hardware. I suppose it's possible that it might, but not too probable. Besides, Mac's have DRM too, and that's one of my major objections to Windows.

I'm no file sharer or software pirate, but the way DRM is implemented it is taking away legitmate fair use from law abiding people.

Linux is the only OS I'm really interested in running. Any time an OS becomes proprietary there's too much room for things like DRM to be exploited against the system user by the manufacturers.

miketuthill said:

Freddy Freeloader said:

Is there anyone here that is processing their pictures on a Linux
machine? If so what are you using for software?

Does anyone know if Sigma has any plans to port SPP over to Linux?

Anyway, I'm curious because if it is a problem processing Sigma
images on Linux I will have have to buy a camera that has proven to
be supportable with OSS and Linux. I've done some Googling and
find a site or two that show that there is some driver support for
some of the Nikons, Canons, etc... The SD9/10 were listed but that
was all. There were no OSS drivers or support shown for either
camera.

I really like the technology Sigma is using think it has a superior
image quality, but Windows is out of the question. It is not an
option.

BTW, has anyone tried running SPP under Wine? And, no I said that
correctly. I didn't mean "under the influence of" Wine..... ;-)

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Freddy Freeloader said:

miketuthill said:

You don't have to run Windows in order to run SPP. There is a Mac
version and although it doesn't process quite as fast as the Win
version it does work well.

Click to expand...

Well, I guess I could have made my post clearer.

I'm not too crazy about running a Mac either. I would most likely
have to buy new hardware to run OSX, as well as the OS, and I don't
think OSX would have the necessary drivers for my existing
hardware. I suppose it's possible that it might, but not too
probable. Besides, Mac's have DRM too, and that's one of my major
objections to Windows.

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I run a Mac desktop and a dual boot XP/PCLinuxOS laptop. DRM gets in the way at times but there's easy ways around it. The hardware actually isn't too bad pricewise ie. I picked up a 2 week old Mac Mini in the spring off eBay for around $500 Cdn and added a Mac Stack for a hundred bucks or so and stuck a surplus drive in the stack and boot from that rather than the laptop drive in the mini.

As far as hardware support goes I found that all of my hardware was supported and I can't say the same for my Linux distribution. Plus you have X11 and VirtualPC when needed (or dual boot or Parallels desktop if you get an Intel machine). OSX is basically a more cohesive and organized Linux (although it is based on FreeBSD).

I'm a big linux fan and have been since the original Redhat distribution but I've found OSX to be more to my liking and I was never an Apple fan until now.

Others have said SPP works in Wine so go for it. I'm guessing that getting good quality prints might be a bit of a problem depending upon how well supported your printer is though.

Good luck!

SPP under Wine workl. In addition, David Coffin's dcraw suports both the Sigma SD9 and the SD10: http://cybercom.net/~dcoffin/dcraw/ .
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Thanks for all the replies.

Thatt's really good news on Wine and SPP. I was really wondering about that one, because every cent I would have to spend on computer hardware and another OS is just that much less I have to spend on a body and lenses. My budget is pretty tight.

As to OSX, I know it's a BSD. I just didn't know what Apple included as far as kernel modules for hardware support since it's pretty rare to run OSX on anything other than Apple hardware. I personally don't know anyone running OSX on anything but OEM hardware.

I had also run across dcraw and saw that there is a Gimp plugin for dcraw, but still wasn't sure if it worked with the Sigma bodies as the site didn't say one way or another. I also don't think Gimp has anything like SPP's fill light and some of it's other features.

Once again, thanks for help. I apprecaite it.

Hi,

give http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/ a try. It is called UFRAW and is freeware. I think it does a very good job on the sigma files although I find it not as easy as SPP. It is based on dcraw and is also a native Linux app. (though I tried it under XP).

robcad

I tried maybe all the ways to process images natively on linux and I found that the better for IQ is to use spp under wine. Other ways involves the use of dcraw and I found that it's not that good for x3f raw format, or at least I prefer much more the output from spp.

After all spp works flawlessly in linux with wine, although a little bit slower than on windows.

Giuseppe

Actually the choice of input and output color profile used in the conversion is quite important to get correct tones and color balance in UFRAW particularly linear gamma working spaces I found to give the best color rendition. As I said SPP is easier but if one is willing to learn UFRAW/DCRAW is a good alternative. My 2c worth.
Bye
robcad

Bob, thanks for the informations about color rendition of UFRAW/DCRaw, at the time I tried them, they do not worked so well for me, in particular they lacked in sharpness, but I guess things had changed.
It's time to reinstall new versions and check.

Giuseppe