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For most of my shooting I like shooting RAW+JPG because many of my shots don't need PP.

Is there a browser program (like Photo Mechanic, or ACDsee for example) that will let me cull my JPG's then also delete the corresponding NEF?

I have both mentioned programs but it is a pain to have to delete the pair. I would rather sort by JPG format since each shot loads faster in preview and execute a function that deletes the corresponding NEF.

TIA, Robert
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http://www.streamlinestudio.com
 
Robert,
Robert Strom said:
For most of my shooting I like shooting RAW+JPG because many of my
shots don't need PP.

Is there a browser program (like Photo Mechanic, or ACDsee for
example) that will let me cull my JPG's then also delete the
corresponding NEF?

I have both mentioned programs but it is a pain to have to delete
the pair. I would rather sort by JPG format since each shot loads
faster in preview and execute a function that deletes the
corresponding NEF.
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Photo Mechanic can view your NEF and JPEG as a single item. Delete the JPEG and the NEF is deleted too. Or if you want to see your JPEGs and NEFs separately you can do that too. If you want, you can create a custom sort that will put your JPEGs at the top of the sort, and the NEFs at the end of the sort. Then preview the JPEGs, tagging the ones you want to delete. Then join them back together. Select tagged. Delete. It should all be over in just a couple of seconds.

But based on your description, I would think that keeping the pairs joined would be the most efficient, because if you don't like the JPEG (that is only if you don't think that doing RAW adjustments won't rescue the shot) then you don't like the NEF either. Deleting will then delete the entire pair.

If you have any questions or I have completely misunderstood what you are trying to accomplish then please let me know.

-Kirk

Kirk A. Baker
Senior Software Engineer
Camera Bits, Inc.
 
Kirk Baker said:
Photo Mechanic can view your NEF and JPEG as a single item. Delete
the JPEG and the NEF is deleted too. Or if you want to see your
JPEGs and NEFs separately you can do that too. If you want, you
can create a custom sort that will put your JPEGs at the top of the
sort, and the NEFs at the end of the sort. Then preview the JPEGs,
tagging the ones you want to delete. Then join them back together.
Select tagged. Delete. It should all be over in just a couple of
seconds.
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Kirk, of course, is right. Photo Mechanic is the right tool for what you need. I think Photo Mechanic is a fantastic tool. Thank you, Kirk for this program!

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Thanks Kirk. I knew that Photo Mechanic would combine two for browsing but didn't go far enough to see that it would delete the pair.

Since you are the Man, I will ask one more question. I can't figure out how to remove the frame from the thumbnails. The frame (gray) eats up a lot of space. I would prefer to have the thumbnails closer together to get more on the screen at one time.

Probably something simple, but digging through the options I couldn't find one that gave me this option.

Robert
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Robert,
Robert Strom said:
Thanks Kirk. I knew that Photo Mechanic would combine two for
browsing but didn't go far enough to see that it would delete the
pair.

Since you are the Man, I will ask one more question. I can't
figure out how to remove the frame from the thumbnails. The frame
(gray) eats up a lot of space. I would prefer to have the
thumbnails closer together to get more on the screen at one time.
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The thumbnail cells size is a function of the thumbnail image size. The gray space that appears between the cells is the remaining space when another cell won't fit on a row. You can either adjust the width of the main frame, adjust the thumbnail size, or move the splitter between the thumbnails and the Favorites/Navigator. It is possible to get rid of all that empty space by any combination of the three adjustments I described.

HTH,

-Kirk

Kirk A. Baker
Senior Software Engineer
Camera Bits, Inc.
 
You can look into WatchDirectory. It' is what I use. I wrote a simple batch file that handles things very nicely. No new ui or anything like that. I simply use Nikon View to view my jpegs. Drag them to a target directory and WD does the same with the corresponding nef.
http://www.watchdirectory.net
Gert gives wicked fast and smart personal service, too.
-Kent
 
Kirk Baker said:
Robert Strom said:
Thanks Kirk. I knew that Photo Mechanic would combine two for
browsing but didn't go far enough to see that it would delete the
pair.

Since you are the Man, I will ask one more question. I can't
figure out how to remove the frame from the thumbnails. The frame
(gray) eats up a lot of space. I would prefer to have the
thumbnails closer together to get more on the screen at one time.
Click to expand...
The thumbnail cells size is a function of the thumbnail image size.
The gray space that appears between the cells is the remaining
space when another cell won't fit on a row. You can either adjust
the width of the main frame, adjust the thumbnail size, or move the
splitter between the thumbnails and the Favorites/Navigator. It is
possible to get rid of all that empty space by any combination of
the three adjustments I described.

HTH,

-Kirk

Kirk A. Baker
Senior Software Engineer
Camera Bits, Inc.
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Kirk:

Thanks for the calification. I guess I just feel there is a lot of wasted space above the thumbnail and below it. Vertical push the file info up tight to the image but horizontals have a lot of space between the image and the info. It may just be a way to keep the sizes uniform. I see that the area to the sides are expanded to show rotation. I kinda think this is redundant since it is obvious the photo has been rotated. I am sure you have tried to make the image space as efficient as possible.

Just an observation. PM is my favorite browsing program in any case!

Robert



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Robert,
Robert Strom said:
Kirk Baker said:
Robert Strom said:
Thanks Kirk. I knew that Photo Mechanic would combine two for
browsing but didn't go far enough to see that it would delete the
pair.

Since you are the Man, I will ask one more question. I can't
figure out how to remove the frame from the thumbnails. The frame
(gray) eats up a lot of space. I would prefer to have the
thumbnails closer together to get more on the screen at one time.
Click to expand...
The thumbnail cells size is a function of the thumbnail image size.
The gray space that appears between the cells is the remaining
space when another cell won't fit on a row. You can either adjust
the width of the main frame, adjust the thumbnail size, or move the
splitter between the thumbnails and the Favorites/Navigator. It is
possible to get rid of all that empty space by any combination of
the three adjustments I described.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the calification. I guess I just feel there is a lot of
wasted space above the thumbnail and below it. Vertical push the
file info up tight to the image but horizontals have a lot of space
between the image and the info. It may just be a way to keep the
sizes uniform. I see that the area to the sides are expanded to
show rotation. I kinda think this is redundant since it is obvious
the photo has been rotated. I am sure you have tried to make the
image space as efficient as possible.

Just an observation. PM is my favorite browsing program in any case!
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It is done this way to keep uniformity for hit testing, and it also helps one's eye track things when scrolling with a scroll wheel (or by using the up/down arrows on the scroll bar.) If the landscape thumbnails were shorter and the portraits were taller then they would "bounce up and down" when scrolling. It would be hard to track the Color Class labels, Tag checkbox, and Sound button. Showing the rotation indicator is optional and is useful for people who want to know at-a-glance which thumbnails would need to be hard-rotated when given to clients.

I'm glad you like Photo Mechanic. We try to stay on top of things and we listen closely to our customers. While I do monitor these forums for Photo Mechanic-related postings, I provide much better support over on our own forums: http://forums.camerabits.com

-Kirk

Kirk A. Baker
Senior Software Engineer
Camera Bits, Inc.
 
http://www.pixort.com/

I have heard good things about Photo Mechanic too, but have not tried it. Pixort is a very lightweight cheap program designed just for the culling photographs step.

It uses the embedded full size basic quality jpeg that comes in every NEF already, so assuming you are shooting raw + jpeg to use the jpg's just for preview, and always delete them eventually, you can just shoot raw.

Tangentially, you could also use PreviewExtractor http://drchung.new21.net/previewextractor/ , which pulls that jpeg out into a separate file.

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-- Pmatt
Gallery - http://www.silentcolor.com
 
Robert,

I’m in the Photo Mechanic camp. The product is perfect if you need to sort, caption, cull, tag, crop, rename, resize, FTP, Email, watermark and move images. I would highly recommend this product if need to do all that.

I have also used Breezebrowser. It’s OK too, but not near as powerful as PM. PM is well worth the 150 bucks if you need to do all this. Sure, you might be able to cobble together free or cheap programs to do these things, but having one program that will do it all is a major timesaver.

As a bonus, I saved about 25% of my ingest time by switching to this program over Nikon View.
 
For windows only. Works great. For instructions edit the script and read the header. Or just save in any directory and click on it and follow the instructions, preferably using some test files so if you screw up, which is highly unlikely, you will not loose any of your originals.

Unfortunately I can't find the link where I got the script from. So, for a week or so, I'll leave it here.

http://www.peterpeterpeter.com/scratch/NEF JPEG Match.vbs

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Gallery - http://www.peterpeterpeter.com
 
I shoot in NEF+Basic all the time.

Workflow:
1) Create new photo directory
2) Create subdirectory NEF
3) Copy nef_workflow_utility.vbs into NEF directory

3) Copy flashcard JPGs to photo directory
4) Copy Flashcard NEFs to NEF directory
5) Use Irfanview to sort/cull the JPGs
6) Move sorted/culled JPGs into NEF directory
7) Run nef_workflow_utility.vbs
8) Move JPGS out of NEF directory
 
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