70-300mm DO IS vs IS non-DO

There for a medical conference 10yrs ago for 4 days. Great place and wish to return. Only had one day to wander and no camera.

Well, good for you.

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that was well put, a bit off topic but good stuff.

and it looks original: if so you hide a bright mind, see? you can do it all by yourself and it comes out beautifully when you do.

5D + grip = poeple not buying a 6K 1Ds because of the size ?

DO + Hood = people in the need to go "stealth" ?

strange things do happen ...

The Canon Lens Hood for the DO is a ridiculous size and defeats all advantages of compact.

I bought a Hoya rubber collapsable hood that works well and is much more in tune with being a compact size.

ps. LOVE my DO!

Amy
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Agree with you. It almost doubles the length of the lens and makes it conspicuous. I also use a rubber hood specially when travelling, but the original hood is better for mechanical protection.
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Gautam

Don't be mistaken, when the lens is extended at 300 mm, hood or no hood, it is not that stealthy... Better than a white lens though.

Stealth is when you walk locked at 70 mm, lens cap on and hood reversed.

The main advantage of the small size is not stealth, but rather the fact that with lens hood reversed, it fits in my vest pocket for very quick lens swaps.

A lens is for me 50% optical quality and 50% usability. If I have to dig into a bag to change lens and that makes me miss a shot, then optical quality is of no use.

Again, that is my personal shooting strategy, and I understand there are plenty of other strategies.

The DO is not for:

• wedding photographers (f/4.5-5.6)
• JPEG shooters (like some photojournalists)
• tripod landscape shooters

Xavier.

yeah... real photographers do wear those things.

Missing shots:

that's unfortunate because I do all the things you mention and Im gonna use a 70-300 IS non-DO more and more often. For news in particular. Not really because of the size (I shoot 1Ds go figure how much I care about it) but because I like the pictures: they are fresh, candid, naive. I love them.
The 100-400 again is white but it takes more or less the same pictures.

The same for weddings. Nice close-ups from the distance with not too much bokeh. Perfect.

I guess that Im doing it all wrong then..

oh well...

so, basically if we take the stealth thing away (as I understood you don't use the DO because of that), then the only advantage will be the size as long as it's not extended. Size to fit into a vest or a bag. But it's larger than the non-DO: so size counts up to a certain point. It's also heavier but still better because... it fits into a vest. I fit into a black shiny domke vest the 100-400: does it make the lens good in terms of fitting the vest thing? I guess so. Does the 100-400 take better pictures of both the Do and non-DO? not really. But at least it goes up to 400 (well, I did find something to justify the white push-pull one)

In the end I see the clear advantages of the DO: better something (not really the pictures) but something.. unspecified but I swear! if I keep thinking of it I'll find something.

This is becoming interesting, it makes me smile, but really.

Canon marketing didn't even get to that level: to justify a model just because... they should hire many in here to cover that job.

color is spot on, sharpness ok (not the best but post process recoverable), fast AF, and easy to transport on the camera or off

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The OP asked about two lenses.

But you must be a DO person, only the DO people I see here running to manifest their happiness with it.

The non-DO people do not do that (maybe because they don't have to justify anything)

ok guys: this will conclude my "crusade" against stupidity associated to the defense of an expensive lens. Sorry for making somebody mad. It's my way to see things in this crazy world of photography for fun.

Enjoy your gear and be happy with it.

Just a Quick ask I'm from Australia and the non DO lens has not been able to purchase for the last 3 Months where are they avalible.

[sounds like some kinky B&D thing]

Seriously- sounds like something I'd want for a DO lens. Can you tell me what it's called so I can find it and order when I get the DO?

Thanks - Bill Hansen

Go back and re-read your last post, and maybe one or two before that one. You accuse others of being defensive and "stupid" but to me, your own posts sound more than a little defensive. They are also needlessly rude. You could make the same points more politely and therefore more compellingly. When you try to be too cute or too combative you lose your "audience".

I have nothing to defend or dismiss here, since I don't have either version of the 70-300. My long lens kit is the Canon 100-400 and the Sigma 70-200.

Bill Hansen

How is the focus speed of the non-DO? I am looking for a lens smaller than my 100-400 for kids soccer games. Would the non-DO focus fast enough for this?

Thanks!

I am not sure I understand all the excitement...

Anyway, if there is a large canon range of zoom lenses, it's because they all have some drawbacks: weight, auto-focus, aperture, range, IQ, price, etc.

Each user needs to understand the plus and minuses to choose the one(s) that suits him best...

At the time of my choice, the necessary features for me were:

• light weight,
• IS,
• USM and FTM.

Price and size were not considered.

If the 70-200 f/4 L IS had existed at the time, it is the one I would have chosen. Today, I got addicted to the DO range and small size. So I will stick with it.

Xavier.

The lens hood is free (not $45), as it is supplied with the lens (as well as a soft pouch that I don't use).

Xavier.

why some enjoy being obnoxious. Must be some deep seated inadequacies.

Rich

I had decided to purchase the DO version of this lens but am waiting to see what else Canon has to offer this fall.

My gut feeling is another DO. No particular reason, other than Canon makes refrence to looking for more of this technology in future lenses.

Enjoying this thread.
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Patrick Cox said:

How is the focus speed of the non-DO? I am looking for a lens
smaller than my 100-400 for kids soccer games. Would the non-DO
focus fast enough for this?

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Good question - I'm interested too.

I agree with Bill. (Bill thanx for saying what I was thinking).
As a result, when I see a "MarkLe" post, I won't bother reading it anymore.

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