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there have a been a few discussions on this, but got nothing out of the threads that i have read. im curious as to how the Mac Book pro handle Aperature or Lightroom. right now, im running a 3ghz intel p4 with 1gig or ram, and it seems slower than a dog with 2 legs running lightroom. can anyone enlighten me how these run with these programs along with d200 NEFS?

thanks for the help

MIR
 
I have a P4 3.6HT with 2 gigs of RAM and lightroom is virtually unusable :-(.

I would like to try and use it, but it isn't even close to being considered slow. It's not that fast to be considered even slow!

Can't help you on the Mac Book though. Except that Apple will be upgrading them to Core 2 Duo soon and then there will be another upgrade of some sort next summer.

Go to anandtech.com and read up on the future plans for Core 2 Duo.

Gene
 
MindInRewind said:
there have a been a few discussions on this, but got nothing out
of the threads that i have read. im curious as to how the Mac Book
pro handle Aperature or Lightroom. right now, im running a 3ghz
intel p4 with 1gig or ram, and it seems slower than a dog with 2
legs running lightroom. can anyone enlighten me how these run with
these programs along with d200 NEFS?
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don't have an answer but someone at mactalk might
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1017
 
Aperture runs absolutely beautifully on a MacBook Pro, so long as you have the adequate amount of hardware to run it. At a minimum, you will need 2GB RAM, and obviously, a large enough hard drive to handle all the RAW Files. I have not used LightBox as of yet, but I'm sure it would work just as well with these specifications. FYI, Apple just announced that the new MacBook Pro is available with the Core 2 Duo. Can't wait to get my hands on one!!!!
 
jhawker1277 said:
Aperture runs absolutely beautifully on a MacBook Pro, so long as
you have the adequate amount of hardware to run it. At a minimum,
you will need 2GB RAM, and obviously, a large enough hard drive to
handle all the RAW Files. I have not used LightBox as of yet, but
I'm sure it would work just as well with these specifications.
FYI, Apple just announced that the new MacBook Pro is available
with the Core 2 Duo. Can't wait to get my hands on one!!!!
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That's incorrect. The iMacs were just announced with Core 2 Duo. The updates to the MacBookPros are expected soon, pending supply of chips from Intel.

Lightroom has the lesser of the system requirements. But you'll want to max the memory anyway.
 
10 a.m. PST you'll see a new mac book pro with the new core duo 2 processor, possibly a new ipod, and movie purchases via apple itunes, another rumor has it that the next ipod will be a 3 inch screen , possibly pressure sensitive, and wireless.
 
well, ive been looking at the Mac Book Pro, with the 2.16ghz core duo with upgrading to 2gb ram. but, now that there puting the core duo 2 in it, ill wait for that. (well, i have no choice to wait cuz i dont have the funds yet :P).

thanks for the help, and if anyone has one, please let me know how aperature runs.

MIR
 
When you notice your computer running slow with one of these huge, piggy programs, hit ctrl-alt-esc and click on the performance tab - if you're using more than 1GB of memory, your computer is using hard drive space instead (paging), and this mode of operation is orders of magnitude slower. It can be truly glacial.

Get at least 2GB of RAM. 3 or 4 would be better. I often am over 1GB with just one D2x file open in photoshop, and nikon view running at the same time.

My system (3.2GHz P4 w/HT, 2GB Dual-Channel RAM) works pretty smoothly provided I am using less than 2GB memory. Can't see any reason why your system shouldn't be able to handle your workflow.
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I have a MBP 17" with 2 Gb Ram and I can say that Aperture handles my 1Ds (11 Mp) Raw files rather smoothly, I'd say only about 20-30% slower than my previous Quad desktop w/2.5 Gb Ram and GeForce 7800 GT 256 Mb.

But even after many months of use still I don't like Aperture workflow, preferring the usual external Raw converter (CaptureOne or RawDeveloper, both Universal Binary btw) and Photoshop CS2, or even ACR, depending on the images/requirements.

Lightroom is very nice, but again I don't like the idea to totally change my worflow, considering that I can't stop using Photoshop for most of my images.

I also found that sometimes the original Raw converters (DPP for my 1Ds, Epson Photolier for my R-D1 and I seem to understand Nikon Capture for most Nikon DSLRs) do a better job especially about color rendering.

Aperture admittedly has the best colors of all the third party converters, but it's a rather "close" system.

Anyway regarding your MacBook Pro choice, definitely wait for the next CoreDuo2, maybe they'll even upgrade the graphic card, a very important factor for Aperture which is based on CoreImage.

Ciao :)
 
MIR,

Both Aperture and Lightroom run smoothly and at acceptable speeds on a MacBook Pro. I have 2.16GHz Mac with 2GB DRAM and have been "playing" with both apps. PS CS2 is slow because it's not a Universal Binary (yet). Capture NX is a dog on any Mac or PC, except possibly my AMD x2 +4800 desktop PC. It's even slow there. Hope this helps.
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Matt_Anderson said:
10 a.m. PST you'll see a new mac book pro with the new core duo 2
processor, possibly a new ipod, and movie purchases via apple
itunes, another rumor has it that the next ipod will be a 3 inch
screen , possibly pressure sensitive, and wireless.
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Hi Matt,

yesterday there was a rumor the meroms will not show up in MacBookPros until next year. (see macrumors.com)

I am desperately wanting one and I read in mac forums that the new MBP might be available on next tuesday.
Another hint could be that the shipping time for the MBP is up to 2 weeks now.

Do have a more reliable source for the MBP update?

Thanks!!

Regards,
Frank
 
thanks for all the input. ill see what happens in the coming months. wont be for a bout 2 that i finally am ready to purchase.

all info is greatly appreciated!

MIR
 
I'm going off of thinksecret and macrumors.

I read about the shortage, yet, apple turned out the new processor in the iMac this week, so it seems to contradict a shortage, especially since the shipping time on those new imacs is 24 hours.

also, apple as a history of changing the "estimated shipping date" when a product is about to change.

I am in the market for a laptop, so I hope it is next week, if not, I'll patiently wait for the update . . .

I like what I see about aperture, but it seems some users here aren't impressed.
Too spend the $300 or not to spend, and continue using cs2 . . .
 
Thank you, Matt.

I am interested in Aperture, too. For me the most important aspect is how well the demosaicing engine works compared to Capture NX (which is the reference for me).

But first I have to get a Mac. :D
 
I have a MacBook Pro. Intel 2ghz with 2GB -o- ram running Tiger and XP SP2 under Boot Camp. I have Lightroom beta on the Tiger and Windows side. Seems to handle my NEF D2H files rather smoothly and fast. But thats kind of subjective. I haven't experienced any bugs or weird glitches yet other then the general this is a BETA.
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Aperture is Universal Binary now. I ran a test conversion and it ran very quickly. Lightroom is still beta and as hard as I try cannot keep it from crashing.
MindInRewind said:
there have a been a few discussions on this, but got nothing out
of the threads that i have read. im curious as to how the Mac Book
pro handle Aperature or Lightroom. right now, im running a 3ghz
intel p4 with 1gig or ram, and it seems slower than a dog with 2
legs running lightroom. can anyone enlighten me how these run with
these programs along with d200 NEFS?

thanks for the help

MIR
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I have a 2.16 ghz macbook pro, using aperture with a D2x, and D2hs nef files, it runs very smoothly on the macbook pro. I also have a 23" cinema display, sometimes it can be slow but not unworkable.
 
turk4 said:
I have a 2.16 ghz macbook pro, using aperture with a D2x, and D2hs
nef files, it runs very smoothly on the macbook pro. I also have
a 23" cinema display, sometimes it can be slow but not unworkable.
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Hi,

that's great! So how do you like the Aperture NEF conversation in comparison with Capture NX??

Thanks for your help!

Frank
 
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