pepperdog74610
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I see B&H are listing the old LiPo B-30 set for $299.95 (was $349 last week). Anyone seen it cheaper? I really cannot live with NiMH AA cells any longer!
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B-30 Li-Po
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Rembvrijn
Senior Member
Thanks for the price update pepperdog,
I am in the market for one and I have not seen it cheaper, well a month ago it was.
GAgeFX
I am in the market for one and I have not seen it cheaper, well a month ago it was.
GAgeFX
I bought mine from B&H a few days ago and had major problems with it. After I charged the battery and hooked it up it turned on and then after 30 secs. it shut off and wouldn't go on again. This happened several times and I sent it back today. I hope it is just a defective battery since my E-10 has been working flawlessly. Should get a replacement next week.
Anyone else have this problem?
fly
Anyone else have this problem?
fly
Bill Harris
Senior Member
When you first turned on the camera did it read 100% in the control panel of the E-10?
BH
Yes. It was fully charged and looked to be operating normally. The second time I tried it I actually got off about 10 shots before it shut down. After that It wouldn't turn on anymore.
fly
Bill Harris
Senior Member
Rather disappointing I'd say, but most likely just a bad battery somehow...you will be happy once it gets sorted out though..hang in there!
BH
Gary Gibson
Well-known member
To all:
There have been many questions regarding this issue. Best explained: most of the "bargain" prices on B30's are because they are "OLD" stock and being liquidated. Norman Camera has stated this and I'm sure this is the deal with B&H. Not to say they are trying to screw you, it's the shelf life that's at fault. These units have been around for a while and most would like to get rid of them in favor of the B32.
The B32 Grip Kit is a vailable @ 17th Street Photo for $389.This is the best I have found anywhere, relacement battery(s) are also reasonably priced.
The B32 is the way to go. I wouldn't want to test the 30's for a bargain.
Go with the NEWEST ! I am.
Gary
There have been many questions regarding this issue. Best explained: most of the "bargain" prices on B30's are because they are "OLD" stock and being liquidated. Norman Camera has stated this and I'm sure this is the deal with B&H. Not to say they are trying to screw you, it's the shelf life that's at fault. These units have been around for a while and most would like to get rid of them in favor of the B32.
The B32 Grip Kit is a vailable @ 17th Street Photo for $389.This is the best I have found anywhere, relacement battery(s) are also reasonably priced.
The B32 is the way to go. I wouldn't want to test the 30's for a bargain.
Go with the NEWEST ! I am.
Gary
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Nick-E20
Well-known member
Sorry to disagree but.....
the b30 lipo states that the battery is good for 500 recharge cycles now if you recharge once a week ( and that would be going some ) it should last 10 years, how long has this been on the market ?. I bought the B30 for $249 from B&H working on the theory that when the battery dies I ban replace just the cell and not the grip and charger aswell. My first charge was December 17th give or take a day or two and I have taken over 400 photos and am showing 90% on the readout.
Nick
the b30 lipo states that the battery is good for 500 recharge cycles now if you recharge once a week ( and that would be going some ) it should last 10 years, how long has this been on the market ?. I bought the B30 for $249 from B&H working on the theory that when the battery dies I ban replace just the cell and not the grip and charger aswell. My first charge was December 17th give or take a day or two and I have taken over 400 photos and am showing 90% on the readout.
Nick
Steve Castle
Active member
Hi Gary,
I must kindly dissagree. Go for the B30 @ the discounted price if you can. $299 is a good price. A bunch of us bought the B30 from B&H for $249 last month. They sold tons of them and as a result kicked the price up. The battery technology of the Lipo is NOT impacted by non used shelf life that one may expect to find on the B30. If it was 3-4 years then possibly. I for one have used the B30 LOTS the last 6 weeks and it is fantastic. No problems. When the Battery does die, I'll simply replace it with the newer battery (B32). B&H is a BIG customer for Oly. They simply cut a great deal because Oly wanted to clear their inventory for the B32.
However , as Dennis Miller says,( "this is my opinion and I could be wrong!)
Best regards Gary,
Steve in Portland
I must kindly dissagree. Go for the B30 @ the discounted price if you can. $299 is a good price. A bunch of us bought the B30 from B&H for $249 last month. They sold tons of them and as a result kicked the price up. The battery technology of the Lipo is NOT impacted by non used shelf life that one may expect to find on the B30. If it was 3-4 years then possibly. I for one have used the B30 LOTS the last 6 weeks and it is fantastic. No problems. When the Battery does die, I'll simply replace it with the newer battery (B32). B&H is a BIG customer for Oly. They simply cut a great deal because Oly wanted to clear their inventory for the B32.
However , as Dennis Miller says,( "this is my opinion and I could be wrong!)
Best regards Gary,
Steve in Portland
--Steve Castle
Gary Gibson
Well-known member
Nick, maybe you missed the point............
I was not saying the B30 had problems. What I said was some of these are OLD units and have been sitting around for a while. It has been stated that these can lose life being uncharged/idle. IT IS an excellent product and I'm glad you have had such great success.
For the buck(s) I would have the B32, not mention the super charged power vs. the B30 (or should I say the B12 vs. B10 battery itself). The LiPo
Grip Kit will work with both and, as I previously said,the best price for grip(B32) and relacement battery(s) is 17 Photo - B10's & B12's.
Not trying to start something here...........
Gary
I was not saying the B30 had problems. What I said was some of these are OLD units and have been sitting around for a while. It has been stated that these can lose life being uncharged/idle. IT IS an excellent product and I'm glad you have had such great success.
For the buck(s) I would have the B32, not mention the super charged power vs. the B30 (or should I say the B12 vs. B10 battery itself). The LiPo
Grip Kit will work with both and, as I previously said,the best price for grip(B32) and relacement battery(s) is 17 Photo - B10's & B12's.
Not trying to start something here...........
Gary
Gary Gibson
Well-known member
Steve,
I have no doubt about the quality of the product, had you read my first post/reply I DID SAY that the low prices were probably for inventory reduction in favor of the B32, as told to me by both Norman and B&H Camera.
I would also consider buying the B30 from B&H and the B12 (battery) form 17th Photo. That would make one helluva tandem and tons of power to spare.
Hope you get the picture.......
Gary
I have no doubt about the quality of the product, had you read my first post/reply I DID SAY that the low prices were probably for inventory reduction in favor of the B32, as told to me by both Norman and B&H Camera.
I would also consider buying the B30 from B&H and the B12 (battery) form 17th Photo. That would make one helluva tandem and tons of power to spare.
Hope you get the picture.......
Gary
Steve Castle
Active member
Got "The Picture"... You?
--Steve Castle
IMHO it's unnecessary to be so paranoid about the B10 battery until it actually dies. Even then, if it's within warranty you can probably get another. And for the record I'm one of those who bought at $249 and am having absolutely no problems whatsoever with my "old" B10.--- Dr. G.E-10 FAQ: http://www.tokenasians.com/articles/e10faq.html
Gary Gibson
Well-known member
God God people.............
This is certainly not an act of paranoia(sp). Just thought I would be remiss if I did not forward some facts that have been discussed. If you would pay attention to my scrbblings I did not underestimate the product, nor did I say anything about it's unworthyness
I am not in this to cause problems........read carefully before you judge.
So sorry, Dr. Gonzo and others.
Gary
This is certainly not an act of paranoia(sp). Just thought I would be remiss if I did not forward some facts that have been discussed. If you would pay attention to my scrbblings I did not underestimate the product, nor did I say anything about it's unworthyness
I am not in this to cause problems........read carefully before you judge.
So sorry, Dr. Gonzo and others.
Gary
Rembvrijn
Senior Member
For the love of God, LET IT GO.
You did NOT say the product is bad, you said it may be OLD STOCK.
Others have replied and said:
They bought the same item from the same company and it WORKED FINE.
Others have said that the amount of time the batteries have existed is not enough time for them to deteriorate to an unusable level - or even to affect them at all.
We heard you. The stock may be old. Many kindly disagree with you about that being the problem.
D*amn it, cant we just argue about NOISE??
GageFX
You did NOT say the product is bad, you said it may be OLD STOCK.
Others have replied and said:
They bought the same item from the same company and it WORKED FINE.
Others have said that the amount of time the batteries have existed is not enough time for them to deteriorate to an unusable level - or even to affect them at all.
We heard you. The stock may be old. Many kindly disagree with you about that being the problem.
D*amn it, cant we just argue about NOISE??
GageFX
Gary Gibson
Well-known member
Gage FX,
Thanx for the advice............I thought I had let it go, oh well.
Yes, there's whole lot of talk about noise. I think I'll keep my mouth/keyboard closed.
Sorry to have caused so much consternation......take care and keep up the informative work.
It DOES help.
Gary
Thanx for the advice............I thought I had let it go, oh well.
Yes, there's whole lot of talk about noise. I think I'll keep my mouth/keyboard closed.
Sorry to have caused so much consternation......take care and keep up the informative work.
It DOES help.
Gary
Rembvrijn
Senior Member
You're not causing consternation. ConstIPation, maybe. Just wanted to let you know your voice was heard. DONT keep your mouth/keyboard closed. Feel free to speak. I have a problem with letting things go too. I wish someone had said to me what I said to you instead of just arguing with me. I can argue forever, you know.
GageFX
GageFX
The part I read as paranoia was when you said this:
"The B32 is the way to go. I wouldn't want to test the 30's for a bargain. "
Honestly, I don't think it's that much of a risk to go with the 30 (and you can warranty it if it fails). I think the $50-100 saved is well worth considering. I would say that for this very reason, the B32 is NOT the way to go.
So forgive the tone, but your statement did tend toward the alarmist side. I respectfully submit that it is not a statement warranted by at my own experience, at at least some others as well.
"The B32 is the way to go. I wouldn't want to test the 30's for a bargain. "
Honestly, I don't think it's that much of a risk to go with the 30 (and you can warranty it if it fails). I think the $50-100 saved is well worth considering. I would say that for this very reason, the B32 is NOT the way to go.
So forgive the tone, but your statement did tend toward the alarmist side. I respectfully submit that it is not a statement warranted by at my own experience, at at least some others as well.
--- Dr. G.E-10 FAQ: http://www.tokenasians.com/articles/e10faq.html
JK Jordan
Leading Member
One problem with that assumption. From the technical literature, "Battery wear-down on lithium-based batteries is caused by two activities: actual usage or cycling, and aging."
Much of the literature indicates that unlike Lithium non-rechargable batteries, Lithium-based rechargables such as Li-ion and Li-ion-Po have a limited shelf life. I found comments such as "The Li-ion does not like prolonged storage. Irreversible capacity loss occurs after 6 to 12 months, especially if the battery is stored at full charge and at warm temperatures." And from this page, http://www.buchmann.ca/Chap10-page6.asp , "The Li-ion battery has a time clock that starts ticking as soon as the battery leaves the factory. The electrolyte slowly ‘eats up’ the positive plate and the electrolyte decays."
His recommendation is to pay close attention to the date of manufacture and never buy Lithium-based batteries before needed.
JKJ
Rembvrijn
Senior Member
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