To Canon: A Wishlist for Future DSLRs.

David Birkin said:

JCDoss said:

One other thing... with the 1.3x multiplier, those 45 focus points
darn near cover the whole frame... oughta make it all the nicer
for sports/wildlife photographers, don't you think?

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a mute issue as the imager size increases...which it will. i
imagine full size sensors aren't too far away. perhaps a 35mm
sensor exists but wasn't fast enough for the 1D, hence the smaller
fast CMOS sensor.

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But a 24x36 sensor DOES exist... they're using them in MF backs. I don't care about full-frame, per se, but I would like to see a multiplier less than what it is. Stitching two D30 sensors (15x22 + 15x22 = 30x22) would be good enough for me... assuming no stitching artefacts would arise (big assumption, I know).

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PS: flip-swivel, preview-capable LCD

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I'll take that as ...a steadfast endorsement of my idea...

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now let's not get ahead of ourselves. it is just ur hallmark wish
list item. perhaps fairy god canon is listening. what a thought.

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Ahem, Fairy God Canon... here's how it oughta be!
JCDoss

JCDoss said:

Useless? I've been using it with relative success thusfar in my
little microcosm! As for dust/water sealage, that's better left to
the 1D/1V "Pro" camera... I'm only interested in a Digital EOS 3.

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I'd agree - something between the D30 and 1D, much like the EOS 3 is in between the 1V and Elan 7E... But keep in mind that the EOS 3 doesn't have a built-in flash, either.

Member said:

One other thing... with the 1.3x multiplier, those 45 focus points
darn near cover the whole frame... oughta make it all the nicer
for sports/wildlife photographers, don't you think?

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That would be sweet - a lower multiplier, more focus points and eye-control wouldn't be bad... But I don't have any personal experience with the latter enough to comment on whether or not it works.

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PS: I almost made it through without mentioning that flip-swivel,
preview-capable LCD would be a good idea... DOH!

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it wouldn't be a Jason wish list without the flip-out monitor.
real-time preview of course. and a holographic viewfinder.

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I'll take that as a compliment of the highest degree, and a
steadfast endorsement of my idea...

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I'm still waiting for the quantum flux capacitor power cell. :-D

A "how to book" on explaining how you really need this new camera now for whatever it will actually cost to your wife (or husband if applicable). It would have to include such helpful suck up tips as

Proper flower (power tool) selection
Proper laundry machine loading w/color separation and fabric softener
The correct way to fold his/her clothing
Proper Garbage placement on curb
Schematic of how to put dishes away after washing

It would also include some helpful phrases as

I love you (the #1 stand by,)
Here, let me do that for you (works well when cleaning the house)

You look really nice (only used when female is trying on clothes, must sound believable)
Have you been working out? (Works on both male and female)
Did you do something to/with your hair? (Again, must sound believable)
BUT......I Love you (if you use this chances are your stuck with your D30)

Seriously, I am the new guy so I have no real input other than I hope someone actually listens and incorporates some of the changes you have mentioned previously. Maybe by then I will have figured out how to take good pictures and use the camera (D30) that I have got to its full potential. And now that I realized my wife just stood behind me and read this, new lines/excuses for new camera in the future

Mike

bluedot said:

Hello.

OK. Some of these have been "solved" on the 1D, but I would like to
see these features on Canon's next "entry-level" DSLR.

I'll start off with some no-brainers (let's keep this realistic
folks ):

• Improved AF.

• Indication of active focus point in view finder.

• Dedicated FEL button.

• Zoom in image proview.

• Improved/decreased noise patterns in shadow areas at high ISO.

bluedot.

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Matt

Member said:

Useless? I've been using it with relative success thusfar in my little microcosm! As for dust/water sealage, that's better left to the 1D/1V "Pro" camera... I'm only interested in a Digital EOS 3.

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Er, I'm pretty sure the EOS 3 is also a wetherproof pro body. I'm totally sure it has no built in flash. So what you want is apparently not quite a digital EOS 3...

Member said:

One other thing... with the 1.3x multiplier, those 45 focus points darn near cover the whole frame... oughta make it all the nicer for sports/wildlife photographers, don't you think?

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Yes, that would be nice.

stripes said:

Member said:

Useless? I've been using it with relative success thusfar in my little microcosm! As for dust/water sealage, that's better left to the 1D/1V "Pro" camera... I'm only interested in a Digital EOS 3.

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Er, I'm pretty sure the EOS 3 is also a wetherproof pro body. I'm
totally sure it has no built in flash. So what you want is
apparently not quite a digital EOS 3...

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You're right. I overlooked it...
JCDoss

You know, I was kind of thinking about this very thing the other night, in regards to the 1D at least... Kind of like changing the focusing screens of old.

The only problem is, you'd probably need to change more than just the imager, for example - more RAM in the buffer, different electronics, etc. If it were feasible, that would be incredible, and an industry first, I believe.

Since the most expensive component of a digital camera is the imager, I wonder how feasible that is.

Still, never say never. Sure is one helluva good idea.

bluedot.

boarderphreak said:

You know, I was kind of thinking about this very thing the other
night, in regards to the 1D at least... Kind of like changing the
focusing screens of old.

The only problem is, you'd probably need to change more than just
the imager, for example - more RAM in the buffer, different
electronics, etc. If it were feasible, that would be incredible,
and an industry first, I believe.

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OK Dave....I'll go ya one better. How about Canon providing each and every qualified dealer ONE demonstration unit of each model and require that the dealer sell ONLY hermetically factory sealed boxes out of back stock and NOT open them to show customers, lose pieces, goober them up or otherwise molest them. Not a bad idea eh? LOL. Now chill out will ya friend. You'll have your chance to paw my stuff when I get to Wisconsin.

Lee Rothman said:

Heck I'll keep it simple:

A 1D with the following add on's.

Lithium Ion Battery Pack instead of NiMhi 6-10mp CMOS Chip
LCD Review function of 1x, 3x, 5x

If they build one of these I nearly don't care what they
charge.....I'll be there first in line to get one PERIOD. This
would be MY dream camera!

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Completely agree with you, except if it will cost more than my semestral income...

Marco

Hi,

Well, the wise thing for DSLR manufactures to do
is come up with an imager with it's own subsystem
processor and buffer like a high-end computer video card.
Just plug in your upgraded I.P.B. (imager/processor/buffer)
into your old DSLR body/motherboard!

That's the nice thing about film cameras... no matter how old
your camera is, you can always use the latest tech films.

Matt

bluedot said:

Still, never say never. Sure is one helluva good idea.

bluedot.

boarderphreak said:

You know, I was kind of thinking about this very thing the other
night, in regards to the 1D at least... Kind of like changing the
focusing screens of old.

The only problem is, you'd probably need to change more than just
the imager, for example - more RAM in the buffer, different
electronics, etc. If it were feasible, that would be incredible,
and an industry first, I believe.

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This one has always bothered me... most live preview digicams
have "old" style metering systems. Why not use the imager as
a meter?! The camera can take a quick shot, analyse the histogram
and expose so you have the best contrast and no blow outs.

Of course, they'd have to incorporate live preview into DSLR's first

Matt

Nononono, Mr. Fusion!

Matt

boarderphreak said:

I'm still waiting for the quantum flux capacitor power cell. :-D

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While we are taking about upgradable imagers, how about
an imager optimized for wide angle lenses, and one that has
a multipier for telephoto lenses. I love the fact that my
100-400L is 640mm on the long end!

Dang, I'm full of neat ideas this morning.

Have the imager on motorized board... turn any lens
into a macro lens, a fisheye into a full or cropped
view, a 400mm lens into a cropped 640mm lens,
turn any lens into a shift tilt, turn any manual focus
lens into an autofocus lens...

Contax did it to a lesser degree with their AX body:
http://www.contaxcameras.com/slr/axbody.html

Matt

MLU is a feature that some mfgrs, have dropped, then added, then made a 'delay' etc.

On a "pro' camera, it should be a "right-now", push-on, see-the-effect, ...change focus, aperture, whatever, ...WATCH the effect change, ...start the self-timer press the cable-release(so as not to vibrate the tripod mounted camera), ...then push off, after photo is taken (or maybe(just MAYBE) auto-off after shutter-release.

Do NOT offer a "pro" level camera WITHOUT proven, useful features!

Larry

bluedot said:

Hello.

OK. Some of these have been "solved" on the 1D, but I would like to
see these features on Canon's next "entry-level" DSLR.

I'll start off with some no-brainers (let's keep this realistic
folks ):

• Improved AF.

• Indication of active focus point in view finder.

• Dedicated FEL button.

• Zoom in image proview.

• Improved/decreased noise patterns in shadow areas at high ISO.

bluedot.

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Also, even if we ignore the Festival of Dust we'd see with users swapping imagers, getting it installed precisely in the right spot and flat could be a real trick (that focal plane is pretty touchy).

boarderphreak said:

You know, I was kind of thinking about this very thing the other
night, in regards to the 1D at least... Kind of like changing the
focusing screens of old.

The only problem is, you'd probably need to change more than just
the imager, for example - more RAM in the buffer, different
electronics, etc. If it were feasible, that would be incredible,
and an industry first, I believe.

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lhsmith said:

On a "pro' camera, it should be a "right-now", push-on,
see-the-effect, ...change focus, aperture, whatever, ...WATCH the
effect change, ...start the self-timer press the cable-release(so
as not to vibrate the tripod mounted camera), ...then push off,
after photo is taken (or maybe(just MAYBE) auto-off after
shutter-release.

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If I understand you... what you're describing would require LCD preview... ie, the mirror is locked up, therefore some TTL mechanism must be in action to see the changes you describe. That can only be via the sensor and LCD. Hence, MLU and LCD preview would work hand-in-hand... something David Birkin shrugs his shoulders about every time I bring it up!


JCDoss

Yeah, sadly that would be a real issue indeed. The imaging plane (sensor) would have to be parallel to the lens mount in the highest degree. The dust notwithstanding, this would more than likely be a Canon-authorized service center upgrade.

Al Goldis said:

boarderphreak said:

You know, I was kind of thinking about this very thing the other
night, in regards to the 1D at least... Kind of like changing the
focusing screens of old.

The only problem is, you'd probably need to change more than just
the imager, for example - more RAM in the buffer, different
electronics, etc. If it were feasible, that would be incredible,
and an industry first, I believe.

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