D80 ISO1600 sample

SW Kim said:

I just used 1/60 as the typical shutter speed you find in a low
light environment such as a church interior with some window light.
It would be ideal to shoot at 1/200 but probably not realistic.

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But we are talking testshoots here with the advantage that you get to choose the situation so that shouldnt be a problem.

Best wishes

Jakob

I don't think we're looking at the same photo's. The 30d photo is soft and dreamy. That may of course be a result of the lens (even though it is an expensive lens)......I know that I've seen much sharper 20/30d photo's. And, the noise performance up to ISO 1600 with the D80 is very very good from everything that I have seen. There is less chroma noise than the 30d test shot posted above.

1% of shots says a lot....and, I know that I shoot even less ISO 1600 than that. This high ISO mumbo jumbo is constantly argued to be far more important than it really is.
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ianz28 said:

1% of shots says a lot....and, I know that I shoot even less ISO
1600 than that. This high ISO mumbo jumbo is constantly argued to
be far more important than it really is.

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That this is a pointless statement. That is offcourse very individual I for instance use high iso a lot, hate flash pictures and in that way this is a very individually thing.

I think whats important is if the high iso performance comes from a good sensor or if it comes from NR. I dont like the latter and the iso 1600 shoots i have seen from the D80 this far does seem to be under heavy influence of NR.

But i havent given it the final verdict yet. But I am still dreaming of that schwitch to fuji sensors.

Best wishes

Jakob

that you need to buy a canon and get off the nikon forums already.

Even though the D80 is demonstrating excellent noise characteristics on par with Canon your still complaining.

You think Canon doesn't use any filter with their images? 8mp is obviously the ideal pixel pitch with the 1.6x crop CMOS sensor. I'll be one of the first to admit that the 20d/30d produce some beautiful images.

But, your constant whining and insults are tedious and tiresome. Your arguments are based on personal preference and opinion just like every one elses yet you preach them like their gospel.

Since you are so up in arms about the noise issue. How much should a camera's rating be weighed in consideration of high ISO noise? 5%? 10%? 25%?

for me it's about 5%.

viewfinder 15%.
body/ergonomics 15%.
features 15%.
Price 15%.
image quality 35%.
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ianz28 said:

that you need to buy a canon and get off the nikon forums already.

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You are back, the propagandist that is always up for ruining a perfectly good debate with you braindead brandloyalism.

You cant think straight, if i stuck a Nikon logo on a canon you would hug that as well.

ianz28 said:

You think Canon doesn't use any filter with their images? 8mp is
obviously the ideal pixel pitch with the 1.6x crop CMOS sensor.
I'll be one of the first to admit that the 20d/30d produce some
beautiful images.

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And you are still whining when some else says soo... That just goes to show the level of nonsense and hypocrasy you can produce.

ianz28 said:

But, your constant whining and insults are tedious and tiresome.
Your arguments are based on personal preference and opinion just
like every one elses yet you preach them like their gospel.

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Ahh man listen to yourself. I JUST WROTE THAT THIS IS MY VIEW, but i guess you will never get it, you are too busy listening to yourself.

ianz28 said:

Since you are so up in arms about the noise issue. How much should
a camera's rating be weighed in consideration of high ISO noise?
5%? 10%? 25%?

for me it's about 5%.

viewfinder 15%.
body/ergonomics 15%.
features 15%.
Price 15%.
image quality 35%.

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Yeahh that says it all you dont even count noise under image quality, you crack me up.

Jakob

get a life measurebator........your constantly calling me a Nikon zealot yet, I wish I could own both systems - get the best of both worlds.

This is your gallery?
http://www.bionaut.dk/gallery/?list=1&page=all

you stated before that you need 5 fps for nature photography. I'd say that photographing dolphins/porpoises/whales is atypical nature photography. Spend the money and get yourself a camera that can do 5fps - and weather sealing might not be a bad idea out on the sea with salt-water spray and moisture.

as I have stated on numerous occasions. You don't debate......just call names and do your best to get people fired up.

you can take my %'s from above and include the noise portion in with image quality. So, image quality = 40%. Well, only 5 of that 40% is in consideration of high ISO noise. Quite frankly I could care less what you think.
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