Do churches have to much power at weddings?

Who does he/she think he is making all these rules Gravity, Commandments and such. Just because someone created the Universe doesnt mean they should have a say in everything.

B and G choose church and paid you so make the best of it? Personally I dont believe what a lot of folks do but I can still be respectfull of there beliefs. Is being a photographer about putting on a show or is it about being invisible and recording something. You dont have to be the choreographer to dance. The best photographers are Nerds who blend smile and facilitate people being themselves, they are not prima donas who have to run the show believing the event is about the pictures rather than making pictures about the event.
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Good post.
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Didn't you know that Canon donates a portion of their profits from fast aperture L lenses to churches that do not permit flash photography. Churches that also ban photographers from moving during the ceremony get an additional cut from 70-200 f/2.8L IS sales...

Had a laugh at your conspiracy post. Now it remains to see how you will be flamed for it. I found it very funny.
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Dare I come across as better than thou. I'm not. But I will say I am a pro with 2 studios and needless to say full time pro at that. This is not about religion. Or even a church. This could easily change from a Church to another location shoot. Like a reward presentation at a bank. You have a good spot in back behind the sitting execs. Do you think you have the rite to jump over them stand in front of them to get the shot? All because you don't want to use a bigger lens? Or maybe you think you can ask one of the execs in front to get up and move so you have a closer spot. I have heard of weddings where some pro want a be hops up on the alter and starts snapping in the face of the bride. I'm sorry if any of you do that then your not pros your not even photographers you just give others photographer a bad name. If you are shooting a wedding you are a wedding photographer in people eyes that watch you. Your not a Amateur, friend, or semi pro in peoples eyes at that church. You are a PRO Photographer so plz dont give us "Pros" a bad name by standing in front or walking in front of the mother during the cermony. I beg of you not to make the ass of yourself.

but it did not post. Probably for the best.

Rudiman said:

Rudiman said:

KR3 said:

you can also tell who has a problem with religion and authority.
Kind of funny what I might see as common sense others see as an
infringement on their personal rights as if, dare I say it, they
were God. I read through all of the posts and pick out a few
posters and think to myself, I really am a little smarter than some
folks. On the other hand, I did reply to this thread.

KR

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Pretty sure i am involved in your judgement. Yes i have a problem
with religion, not authority just religion. I've been a
spirit-filled christian for almost 15 years. My problem is with
preachers, pastors, priests, reverends etc. that has perverted the
gospel of our Lord so bad that God himself doesn't even attend
their churches anymore. Makes me sick to think of the innocent
people that attend their churches. The biggest reason for atheism
nowadays are christians who talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
I'm sorry i even replied to this thread in the first place.

I'm not a pro wedding photographer and i'm not a wannabee. Just do
it for friends and family.
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Fox123 said:

Do you think churches have to
much power when thousands of dollars are being payed to get great
photos?

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Most insurance companies exclude acts of God. I sure hope you get the great shots.

Naj

Sometimes, ignorance is an attitude of life, and not simply lack of knowledge.

Reading through this thread, I've seen several rather complete, accurate, and knowledgeable comments as to why some churches have certain rules when their holiest room is used.

And all you can talk of is how the MINISTER needs to make an ego check because YOU feel restricted by the practices of that faith or particular congregation.

And you say someone ELSE is full of "cr@p"?

First, it likely is NOT the ministers decision ... though you cannot seem to grasp this thought, in many congregations that is a decision of the congregation and the minister has no veto over it. IN some congregations the minister does decide. As he is engaged by the congregation as their spiritual and worship leader, it don't really make no difference in effect. And it still isn't YOUR business to try and force your ego on their organization.

Second, it is the room that congregation devotes to their holiest activity, worshipping their God as they see fit ... it is ENTIRELY their room to command, period. So, you expect that you should be able to go anywhere in the sanctuary to shoot from? How about in say, a Greek orthodox, where as someone who is NOT a priest you are not allowed into the altar area at all ... member or not. Would you still demand that your particular donkey's backside should be able to cr@p on their belifs and shoot from altar area anyway?

Thrid, the bride and groom chose an in-church ceremony, which in many churches is considered a holy ceremony and a service at the same time. They should not be surprised at the rules set for any service of worship in that house or worship.

And if you were at all respectful of the feelings and belief systems of others, you'd have no problem with this. Getting frustrated we can't shoot something is fine. But a sef-respecting self-controlled adult handles these kinds of fruststration without even taking time to think about it.

Understands, and abides. Without whining like a four year old who's parents ... aren't.

Ignorance as a chosen attitude coupled with extreme narcissitic egotism is so prevalent these days ... and just as annoying as ever.

Rudiman said:

Yes i have a problem
with religion, not authority just religion. I've been a
spirit-filled christian for almost 15 years. My problem is with
preachers, pastors, priests, reverends etc. that has perverted the
gospel of our Lord so bad that God himself doesn't even attend
their churches anymore. Makes me sick to think of the innocent
people that attend their churches.

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OK, now we see the motivation behind your irrational argument. You're one of those judgamentalists. Great. Like I couldn't guess.

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and yet that Governement forbids me from taking pictures with a flash in many museum.

Obviously, there are values that matters much more than money.

For the priest it is about spirituality - whether we believe in what he preaches or not - a priest has the right to think that photographic activity may distract the audience and desecrate the ceremony's sanctity. And if a priest feels that way then he is doing the right thing by restricting photography in his temple of prayer.

If the B&G disagree, they may choose another place of prayer where the priest has different views on the matter. Or they may get married in front of a judge, if they are totally indifferent to the religious content of the ceremony.

Las Vegas, here I come!
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"I am a christian and a wedding service is NOT a worship service or a prayer meeting. Its all about 2 people getting married and it should be their call, if you have a problem with that then so be it."

Wow .. what an ego you must have.

YOU have tha absolute knowledge and final word on the subject. Ok, as a fellow Christian, you apparently feel you can tell me what I SHOULD believe, because if apprently I or anyone else migh disagree with you, we're clearly wrong. Unbelievable.

Within the Lutheran, Catholic, Greek Orthodox, and Russian Orthodox traditions (from personal experience) that simple wedding (to you) is to them a worship service.

Many others are like that ... and I cannot think of your going into a Mosque as happening at all. Or, let's say, a Mormon tabernacle.

As the popular phrase goes, get a life.