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Anybody know what could be contributing to what I can only best describe as a smear/blotchiness effect to the image?
Is it auto NR or something?
The detail has turned pretty muddy IMO.
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JC Mason
 
Looks like some built-in noise reduction to me.

I don't see much color noise, just grain, so there seems to be some kind of post-processing going on there.

-- Dave
 
Look at this building... lots of fringe all over the place...

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/nikon/d80-review/DSC_0023.JPG

Was taken with the 18-135....

Full EXIF here:
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-- Dave

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I prefer a little more sharpness. Low noise is good, but not at the cost of sharpness. I hope NR was on & the image will be sharper when turned off. Also, there's no banding around the overexposed lights. That's a good thing.

Mark
zsouthboy said:
Looks like D200 ISO 1600 with High Iso NR on "High"
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http://www.zsouthboy.com
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Church Event Photographer

Full time auto tech, part time photographer. Just wished it were the other way around. Mark Thompson/MTT
Louisville, KY. USA

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If CA rears its ugly head, we're able to switch lenses, so I don't really sweat the negative reports on the 18-135 in that regard.

But there's no changing the image processing at high ISO, assuming that is what's to blame for the muddy details.

I haven't seen enough samples to make a proper assesment, but right now it doesn't look very good.
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JC Mason
 
With Nikon, you have a choice of low noise or high detail but not both. I'd expect that tradition to continue through at least the next generation of cameras. If you can't wait then buy a Canon 5D or the newest rebel.

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That it will never come again is what makes life so sweet....ED

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digigenic said:
But there's no changing the image processing at high ISO, assuming
that is what's to blame for the muddy details.
I haven't seen enough samples to make a proper assesment, but right
now it doesn't look very good.
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This is an image that has great depth, but is shot handheld at 1/25sec at F3.5. Inevitably the image will be soft, because, by definition, most of it is OOF.

Duncan
 
I am not refering to the high iso shot but its obvious that the shots with the 18-135 lens are not good.

Looking at the the samples of the 50mm f1.8 lens there are much better.

The 18-135 on the D80 is not a good combination.
 
I think my d70s church pics at iso1600 looks pretty much the same. I'll save my upgrade till they release something really special (or a used d200 when I can afford it).

I still think the Nikon noise (to be fair, let's say the d70(s)'s noise) is just charming. I followed Oly for a long while before deciding on N, and the noise we've got is nothing compared to the colored noise hell they're experiencing.

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Kind regards,
Rich.
 
Shot my childs birthday party at 1600 (oops) and none of the pictures looked as bad as that one. Looks like I'll be holding onto the D50 for a while.
 
Most of these pics are at 1600

http://picasaweb.google.com/danapark/TodaysPics
David Chin said:
Thanks in advance!
bardamu said:
Shot my childs birthday party at 1600 (oops) and none of the
pictures looked as bad as that one. Looks like I'll be holding
onto the D50 for a while.
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Regards, David Chin
(D.7.0. & C.P.4.5.0.0.)

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http://www.pbase.com/dlcmh/nikon_d80_sneak_pictures

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Richard Fossum said:
I think my d70s church pics at iso1600 looks pretty much the same.
I'll save my upgrade till they release something really special (or
a used d200 when I can afford it).
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If you compare the D70 pic from the church (from the same page) you should notice that it is taken at ISO200, not at ISO1600 at the one from D80.

Heres a ISO1600 from D50, itns not good comared to the C at the other side:



I guess its probably some kind of NR on. That explays the strange noise. Heres an ex from D200 @ ISO 1250:



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