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I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be frustrated. I love the fact that sony has cameras that you can save on a floppy disk but they are not high pixels. I am looking for a camera under $500 that I can take pictures of anything and everything. I want it easy to use with more features I can learn later. I want my pictures to print out good, not grainy. I have a hp895 now. Will I have to buy a new printer? I would love to get any suggestions on cameras and printers. Thank you for any and all help.--Karen Stewart
 
I Think I read about a camera here, the 2100uz and the E-100rs, these both fit what your looking for, and use compact flash or smart media for storage of the files, I never like the idea of the Sony doing the floppy disc, seemed silly to me anyways ... either of these cameras can be found for in the 480 range, the nice thing is they come with everything to get you shooting, memory, battery's, charger and strap, and even a camera ...

Printers, Epson has a deal right now, if you buy a qualifing camera, you get a $100 rebate on the printer, I saw them today at Office Depot for $199, but someone here said they can be bought online for 165 as I recall, so thats a net cost of 65+ - for a ne printer, and this one gets good ratings ...

HTHU!

Rick
I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated. I love the fact that sony has cameras that you can
save on a floppy disk but they are not high pixels. I am looking
for a camera under $500 that I can take pictures of anything and
everything. I want it easy to use with more features I can learn
later. I want my pictures to print out good, not grainy. I have a
hp895 now. Will I have to buy a new printer? I would love to get
any suggestions on cameras and printers. Thank you for any and all
help.
--
Karen Stewart
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I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated.
--
Karen Stewart
Welcome to the club, Karen. I just "went digital" last night. I bought the C2100. HOWEVER, I own three 35mm film cameras. Two are 20+ years old and 100% manual and the third is a Canon Elan7. In other words, I've got a few years experience with manual operation. I bought the UZI because it does have the manual capabilities available. I've got a Sony Mavica for use at work and for illustrating technical reports, that camera is perfect engineer's tool. I don't care for the proprietary nature of those cameras nor do I think having to carry around a box of floppys or fragile cds is convenient for vacations, etc. Recommending a specific camera would only illustrate my own prejudices, so I'll just say that the UZI is currently available at a good price, as are other cameras. I could be a good beginner's camera, but I would suggest a basic photography course asap so you dont let all of the features fall away into the back of your mind. Auto and p&s are good but manual is great.
Just my 2 cents. good luck
RT
 
I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated.
--
Karen Stewart
Welcome to the club, Karen. I just "went digital" last night. I
bought the C2100. HOWEVER, I own three 35mm film cameras. Two are
20+ years old and 100% manual and the third is a Canon Elan7.
Sorry for the second post, Im still kind of new at this....I wanted to say that the Canon is both fully automatic and has full manual capabilities also.
 
Hi Karen.

I agree with the previous two posters that the best value for money right now is either the C-2100UZ or the E-100RS. Which you'll be better off with depends on what kind of subjects you'll be shooting. The E-100RS has a lot of extra features and the C-2100UZ in return has a .5MP higher resolution, which is useful if you mostly print 8x10s. Anyway you won't go wrong with either camera.

Maxven
I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated. I love the fact that sony has cameras that you can
save on a floppy disk but they are not high pixels. I am looking
for a camera under $500 that I can take pictures of anything and
everything. I want it easy to use with more features I can learn
later. I want my pictures to print out good, not grainy. I have a
hp895 now. Will I have to buy a new printer? I would love to get
any suggestions on cameras and printers. Thank you for any and all
help.
--
Karen Stewart
 
I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated.
There are a lot of choices. You have to learn enough to discover
what features are important to you, to help you narrow your choices.
I love the fact that sony has cameras that you can
save on a floppy disk but they are not high pixels.
Unless you absolutely need to be able to output directly to media
readable on any old PC (> 4 years old), then I suggest that the
old floppy disk Sony Mavicas have too many disadvantages due to
using a floppy disk to be worth considering. The new Sony Mavicas
now write to a 8cm CD-R and CD-RW, which are almost as
universally readable but with much more capacity at a somewhat
smaller camera size.
I am looking
for a camera under $500 that I can take pictures of anything and
everything. I want it easy to use with more features I can learn
later. I want my pictures to print out good, not grainy.
Some points to consider:

Generally speaking, a good megapixel digital camera can take
good photos which can be printed well. The more pixels, the
sharper the print can be, but I have some very good 8x10 prints
taken with a 1.3 Mpel digicam.

Essentially all digicams can be used as simple point & shoot cameras,
some are purely point & shoot and have limited controls, while others
offer manual control over exposure and in-camera processing. The
ones with manual control obviously offer a growth path, but they
usually cost more, are often physically larger and heavier, and perhaps
provide an initially intimidating number of buttons, levers, switches, and
dials (which can "accidentally" be incorrectly set for simple point & shoot
action).

One useful way to for a camera to be flexible is to offer different
focal lengths (i.e. wide-angle or telephoto). One way to offer
this is to have interchangeable lenses--this is found only on high
end digicams that are way out of your price range. Many digicams
can have extender lenses added on, but this has various costs,
including inconvenience. The most convenient way is to have
a zoom lens, and while this adds to the cost of a digicam, there
are many digicams under $500 that have a zoom lens. Note that
many digicams have a "digital zoom"--this is nearly useless and
probably should be ignored in your deliberation.

The Olympus product range looks like this: [bracketed items are
older models which you might see on clearance]

very compact point & shoot
Brio D-100 -- 1.2 Mpel, fixed lens
Brio D-150 -- 1.2 Mpel, 3x zoom
Brio D-230 -- 1.9 Mpel, fixed lens

compact point & shoot
D-370 [D-360/D-340] -- 1.2 Mpel, fixed lens
D-460 [D-450/D-400] -- 1.2 Mpel, 3x zoom
D-510 [D-490] -- 1.9 Mpel, 3x zoom

ultracompact w/manual controls
D-40Z -- 3.9 Mpel, 2.8x zoom

compact w/manual controls
C-2040Z [C-2020Z/C-2000Z] -- 1.9 Mpel, 3x zoom
C-3040Z/C-3020Z [C-3030Z/C-3000Z] -- 3.1 Mpel, 3x zoom
The C-3030Z was the first, the C-3000 is a cost reduced version
of the C-3030Z, the C-3040 is the next version of the C-3030Z,
the C-3020Z is the next version of the C-3000Z. The C-3040Z
may be slightly over your price range.
C-4040Z -- 3.9 Mpel, 3x zoom
Somewhat over your price range
C-2100UZ -- 1.9 Mpel, 10x stabilized zoom
The stabilized lens lets you take hand held (no tripod)
photos you would never have dreamed of trying before.
Looks like a C-2040Z with a very long snout.
There are a number of "UZI" fanatics here, it's available for $499
at CompUSA.
E-100RS -- 1.4 Mpel, 10x stabilized zoom
Some unique features for action photography, but gives up some
resolution compared to the very similar looking C-2100UZ.
May be a bit over your price range. I own one.
C-700UZ -- 1.9 Mpel, 10x zoom
Looks like a C-3020 but with a much longer zoom--not stabilized.

Some digicams you probably won't hear too much about since they
aren't from real camera companies but are worth checking out.

Casio QV-4000EX -- 3.7 Mpel, 3x zoom -- may be a bit over your price range
Casio QV-3500EX [QV-3000EX] -- 3.1 Mpel, 3x zoom
Epson PhotoPC 3100Z [PhotoPC 3000Z] -- 3.1 Mpel, 3x zoom
Toshiba PDR-M81 -- 3.8 Mpel, 2.8x zoom
Toshiba PDR-M71 -- 3.1 Mpel, 2.8x zoom
I have a hp895 now. Will I have to buy a new printer?
I like having real prints made at a 1-hour photo developer for
all but very quick proof prints. Walmart charge $0.26 per photo
for a 4x6, which is not much more than inkjet costs, and the
results will be much better than any inkjet.

Cheers
Sam
[who just spent way too much time on this post...]
 
I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated. I love the fact that sony has cameras that you can
save on a floppy disk but they are not high pixels. I am looking
for a camera under $500 that I can take pictures of anything and
everything. I want it easy to use with more features I can learn
later. I want my pictures to print out good, not grainy. I have a
hp895 now. Will I have to buy a new printer? I would love to get
any suggestions on cameras and printers. Thank you for any and all
help.
--
Karen Stewart
Check out the Olypus 2100UZ at CompUSA. It has a 10x zoom and a fanatical group of users. Wonderful camera that has just about everything you will need to grow. I have another OLY 3040, but I always end up using the UZi. Don't worry about the pixels. It makes great 8 x 10s.

You can pick up an Epson 870 from Epson for $89 with a full year's warranty. It's a wonderful printer. The important thing is to get a printer that makes prints with good longevity. Most any printer make pretty pictures. The question is will they fade in a few years. Epson gets high marks for longevity especially on their matte paper. --21oo, B-3oo3o4oJuli
 
I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated.
There are a lot of choices. You have to learn enough to discover
what features are important to you, to help you narrow your choices.
I love the fact that sony has cameras that you can
save on a floppy disk but they are not high pixels.
Unless you absolutely need to be able to output directly to media
readable on any old PC (> 4 years old), then I suggest that the
old floppy disk Sony Mavicas have too many disadvantages due to
using a floppy disk to be worth considering. The new Sony Mavicas
now write to a 8cm CD-R and CD-RW, which are almost as
universally readable but with much more capacity at a somewhat
smaller camera size.
I am looking
for a camera under $500 that I can take pictures of anything and
everything. I want it easy to use with more features I can learn
later. I want my pictures to print out good, not grainy.
Some points to consider:

Generally speaking, a good megapixel digital camera can take
good photos which can be printed well. The more pixels, the
sharper the print can be, but I have some very good 8x10 prints
taken with a 1.3 Mpel digicam.

Essentially all digicams can be used as simple point & shoot cameras,
some are purely point & shoot and have limited controls, while others
offer manual control over exposure and in-camera processing. The
ones with manual control obviously offer a growth path, but they
usually cost more, are often physically larger and heavier, and
perhaps
provide an initially intimidating number of buttons, levers,
switches, and
dials (which can "accidentally" be incorrectly set for simple point
& shoot
action).

One useful way to for a camera to be flexible is to offer different
focal lengths (i.e. wide-angle or telephoto). One way to offer
this is to have interchangeable lenses--this is found only on high
end digicams that are way out of your price range. Many digicams
can have extender lenses added on, but this has various costs,
including inconvenience. The most convenient way is to have
a zoom lens, and while this adds to the cost of a digicam, there
are many digicams under $500 that have a zoom lens. Note that
many digicams have a "digital zoom"--this is nearly useless and
probably should be ignored in your deliberation.

The Olympus product range looks like this: [bracketed items are
older models which you might see on clearance]

very compact point & shoot
Brio D-100 -- 1.2 Mpel, fixed lens
Brio D-150 -- 1.2 Mpel, 3x zoom
Brio D-230 -- 1.9 Mpel, fixed lens

compact point & shoot
D-370 [D-360/D-340] -- 1.2 Mpel, fixed lens
D-460 [D-450/D-400] -- 1.2 Mpel, 3x zoom
D-510 [D-490] -- 1.9 Mpel, 3x zoom

ultracompact w/manual controls
D-40Z -- 3.9 Mpel, 2.8x zoom

compact w/manual controls
C-2040Z [C-2020Z/C-2000Z] -- 1.9 Mpel, 3x zoom
C-3040Z/C-3020Z [C-3030Z/C-3000Z] -- 3.1 Mpel, 3x zoom
The C-3030Z was the first, the C-3000 is a cost reduced version
of the C-3030Z, the C-3040 is the next version of the C-3030Z,
the C-3020Z is the next version of the C-3000Z. The C-3040Z
may be slightly over your price range.
C-4040Z -- 3.9 Mpel, 3x zoom
Somewhat over your price range
C-2100UZ -- 1.9 Mpel, 10x stabilized zoom
The stabilized lens lets you take hand held (no tripod)
photos you would never have dreamed of trying before.
Looks like a C-2040Z with a very long snout.
There are a number of "UZI" fanatics here, it's available for $499
at CompUSA.
E-100RS -- 1.4 Mpel, 10x stabilized zoom
Some unique features for action photography, but gives up some
resolution compared to the very similar looking C-2100UZ.
May be a bit over your price range. I own one.
C-700UZ -- 1.9 Mpel, 10x zoom
Looks like a C-3020 but with a much longer zoom--not stabilized.

Some digicams you probably won't hear too much about since they
aren't from real camera companies but are worth checking out.

Casio QV-4000EX -- 3.7 Mpel, 3x zoom -- may be a bit over your
price range
Casio QV-3500EX [QV-3000EX] -- 3.1 Mpel, 3x zoom
Epson PhotoPC 3100Z [PhotoPC 3000Z] -- 3.1 Mpel, 3x zoom
Toshiba PDR-M81 -- 3.8 Mpel, 2.8x zoom
Toshiba PDR-M71 -- 3.1 Mpel, 2.8x zoom
I have a hp895 now. Will I have to buy a new printer?
I like having real prints made at a 1-hour photo developer for
all but very quick proof prints. Walmart charge $0.26 per photo
for a 4x6, which is not much more than inkjet costs, and the
results will be much better than any inkjet.

Cheers
Sam
[who just spent way too much time on this post...]

I disagree Sam! I think you did a great job of listing all the cams and their lenses etc.Some might just say to buy the uzi,but everyone needs to look at all options out their too.Oly cams have a great advantage because they can use aa batteries some cameras have their own type and cost alot of $$
 
I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated. I love the fact that sony has cameras that you can
save on a floppy disk but they are not high pixels. I am looking
for a camera under $500 that I can take pictures of anything and
everything. I want it easy to use with more features I can learn
later. I want my pictures to print out good, not grainy. I have a
hp895 now. Will I have to buy a new printer? I would love to get
any suggestions on cameras and printers. Thank you for any and all
help.
Karen,

The only problem with the Oly C-2100 is that once you start using the 10x optical zoom, you get spoiled and it becomes hard to use other cameras except for portraits and other close work (which the C-2100 does a great job on too). If you truly want to take shots of "anything and everything" the C-2100 is as versitile as you can get. With the lower prices it's a great deal ($499 at Comp-USA last week).

As for the printer, the HP will do a fine job. You'll find that most people are as passionate about their printers as they are about their cameras. Six color, four color. . .most people really can't see the difference. I love the fact that every time you change the ink cartridge on an HP, you're changing the ink jets. Suggestion, choose your camera, get some good photo quality paper and see how your printer performs.

Good luck.

Mike
 
I agree with all recommendations about the C-2100UZ. You will not find any comparative performance for the money.

For printers, that depends on the kinds of printing you'll be doing. HP's are generally good all around printers, but if you want to print photos, nothing touches the Epson Stylus Photo printers. Just make sure you get the Stylus Photo series and not the Stylus Color series, though they do decent photo printing too - just not as good as the photo series.
  • Wilson
new UZi owner

had used canon, lexmark, hp and epson printers and now prefer Epson Sytlus Photo printer.
I have been researching cameras for a month. I am beginning to be
frustrated. I love the fact that sony has cameras that you can
save on a floppy disk but they are not high pixels. I am looking
for a camera under $500 that I can take pictures of anything and
everything. I want it easy to use with more features I can learn
later. I want my pictures to print out good, not grainy. I have a
hp895 now. Will I have to buy a new printer? I would love to get
any suggestions on cameras and printers. Thank you for any and all
help.
Karen,
The only problem with the Oly C-2100 is that once you start using
the 10x optical zoom, you get spoiled and it becomes hard to use
other cameras except for portraits and other close work (which the
C-2100 does a great job on too). If you truly want to take shots
of "anything and everything" the C-2100 is as versitile as you can
get. With the lower prices it's a great deal ($499 at Comp-USA
last week).

As for the printer, the HP will do a fine job. You'll find that
most people are as passionate about their printers as they are
about their cameras. Six color, four color. . .most people really
can't see the difference. I love the fact that every time you
change the ink cartridge on an HP, you're changing the ink jets.
Suggestion, choose your camera, get some good photo quality paper
and see how your printer performs.

Good luck.

Mike
 

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