Totally Disappointed

so you're basically saying that Phil's review of this camera is entirely wrong. His "highly recommended" is therefore not justified? He is not able to do a good review and a valid comparison to what's out there?

Or how do you explain that the camera is such a POS and Phil say's go and buy it?

Either he is wrong or you are wrong. or your expectations are totally off.
 
Barry Fitzgerald wrote:

A post with a shot of his KM 5D - and yes, I thought 'that's not the Sony lens' because for a moment I thought it was a shot of the Sony - that green multicoating made me look twice! Absent in the Sony version.

Off topic, but I like Barry's new sig pic better than the auld one.

David
 
Barry Fitzgerald wrote:

A post with a shot of his KM 5D - and yes, I thought 'that's not
the Sony lens' because for a moment I thought it was a shot of the
Sony - that green multicoating made me look twice! Absent in the
Sony version.

Off topic, but I like Barry's new sig pic better than the auld one.

David
I know it would look a lot nicer with this on it:



Sadly I dont have one, but I am sure you do, so if you tire of it, dont hesitate to send it on to me! I will even pay the postage for you! lol

--

 
Well I have made my point along time ago in this thread so this is
my last post in regards to this topic.

Canon is a proven brand as well as Nikon. Sony is not in the DSLR
market.

I dont buy what is popular but other people do. Thats why Britney
is a worth millions and we are not.

Put your money where you mouth is. Lets see the pictures. Show me
some that are even comparable in quality to that shown in the Nikon
and Canon forums.The D50 is an excellent camera for example.
Any company which launches a camera to hit the market in late July is not going to get any decent pictures for two or three months from its users. Here in Britain we are right in the middle of the least photogenic month of the year, unless you happen to be looking at a sunrise or sunset. The countryside is bleached, faded, dusty, or dark; greens are no longer fresh; humidity is high, the air is not clear, the light is often overcast. Even midwinter is often photogenic, and our real seasons for photography are April-June and Sept-Nov, with lower light but decent long days, and more clarity and variation, less foliage density, brighter colours from Spring or Autumn.

I've had my A100 for 2 weeks and managed only test shots and one brief half-hour of beach/estuarine photography well away from the dull boring look of the countryside.

David
 
I know it would look a lot nicer with this on it:



Sadly I dont have one, but I am sure you do, so if you tire of it,
dont hesitate to send it on to me! I will even pay the postage for
you! lol
Never had one, never owned one, never even used one except briefly. I'm a dedicated lightweight, unobtrusive kit person - my early work was as a photojournalist, interviewing and shooting stories for the 'heavy' Sunday papers, and I have always tried to keep my camera sort of discreet and non-threatening.

We did have one for our hire service, which one stocked the entire range except the 600mm. A Minolta Club member hiring it suffered a yacht capsize last year during an Indian Ocean yacht race, lost our 300mm f2.8 for ever, and soaked his own 600mm f4. By that KM had no parts and could not repair his lens, and his insurance company played hard to get out of liability for his hired kit, leaving him contractually responsible for the lens. Since the lenses were all owned by KM and loaned to the club for the hire service, and they had no replacement 300mms available anywhere in the world, they just threw their hands up and said 'sorry, it's gone, you won't get another'.

But one of the most gracious things KM did, when closing, was to ignore the existence of the hire stock and allow it to remain with the man who has operated this service now for 15 years, so the club continues to be able to supply many - rather outdated - lenses for hire by post still. The most popular are the 100-300mm and 100-400mm, macro 50 and 100, 85mm. We have a 400mm f4.5 and no-one ever wants to hire it.

David
 
The shutter noise is what SLRS sound like.. some are quieter but there is more going in with the mirror than with even a nice P&S like the R1

Also

Totally disgree with you....on build.. It is light weight but solid. Better build than the Canon... and I used to shoot Canon Film all the time.

But I have to say it is nuts to return a camera without looking at how you shoot with it.

Can't agree with your process in deciding.

------------
Ken
KM 5D - Sig 24-135 2.8..
 
Hey, I bought A100 (exchanged 7D for it, actually). I must be stupid.
And, even worse, I had Canon DSLRs earlier - D30, D60, 1D & 10D, so
I knew for better. What was I thinking?! I should've known better.
Yeah, you should have looked at the the stats :) .
 
Best camera I've ever owned or used. fastest action, best focussing, sharpest pictures.

from what I've seen of the posts about hi ISO noise, I can agree with the criticism.

On the otherhand, I have a buddy with a Canon D20, very nice camera. His best daylight shot isn't as sharp as mine. And of course, my experience really means nothing. And I don't claim to be an expert.

But I've been taking pictures all my life (I got an Instamaric when I was about 8 years old, in say 1962?) This is the best Camera I have ever owned or had a the opportunity to use.

I hope it continues to be relaible.
 
Ok, my 2 bits coming up. I recently got into the DSLR market and prior to taking the plunge in a big way for me.. about 4500 dollars in bodies and lens, flash, etc, I did a lot, a hell of a lot of research and several trips to the brick and mortar camera stores to feel, try, and determine what I'd be most comfortable with in terms of use, reliability and reputation. Sony was on the top of my list, I was excited about the Alpha contender, and then guess what happened? I actually held one in my hand for the first time, but even before touching it.. just looking at it, made me frown, touching it was a total let-down, it felt to me like a piece of .. well you know what. Then I tried it out.. man-o-man.. the news gets worse and worse.. it sounds like its already broken or something. Then the anti-dust buster feature.. what a scam.. it really doesn't work at all. So.. what did I buy? First was sold on Canon, then decided Nikon.. had my wallet out.. and then another guy says.. hey.. have you tried the Olympus E-1? I knew of it.. many good comments, but only 5 Megapixels.. I said. .yeah, but its only 5. Then I tried it.. it was a marriage made in heaven, it sang to me.. its built like a brick s house, its weatherproof, and its mine now. I cannot leave it alone, my girlfriend now feels I'm shunning her in favor of the e-1 one, I do more with it now than her. .although she is the object of my photos more and more now.. Sony, did do well I must admit with the DSC R1.. nice cam, or well.. nice BIG SMOKIN ZEISS Lens anyway.. but the Alpha 100.. well its a non-contender. TKO!
Cheers
 
I think I know what the poster meant by the cheap feel of the camera because I felt the same. I'm new to DSLRs

Then I started handling Nikon and Canon cameras and was equally disappointed so I left the store. My Panasonic FZs seems so much more robust

A week later having reviewed images taken by the Alpha 100 I went back and this time it felt much more solid. I don't know why I felt differently about it but the camera felt right and my grip on the controls came naturally.

Perception is a funny thing. I'm happy with my purchase and the camera's features.

Perhaps having seen images of the Alpha's Magnesium Alloy frame my mindset was different.
 
dotcomdot wrote:
Then I tried it out.. man-o-man.. the news gets
worse and worse.. it sounds like its already broken or something.
Then the anti-dust buster feature.. what a scam.. it really doesn't
work at all. So.. what did I buy? First was sold on Canon, then
decided Nikon.. had my wallet out.. and then another guy says..
hey.. have you tried the Olympus E-1? I knew of it.. many good
comments, but only 5 Megapixels.. I said. .yeah, but its only 5.
Then I tried it.. it was a marriage made in heaven
Since no-one has owned an A100 long enough to find out whether the anti-dust feature works in practice - and one published test used the most ridiculous situation to create dust which appears to have been a shower of highly adhesive pollen - you are basing your opinion on very little indeed.

In the E-1, you have the only camera on the market which can actually produce noise at its highest ISO setting similar to the A100 - at half the pixel count. It's a very nice camera to use, but its viewfinder has a real 0.48X magnification compared to a real 0.56X of the A100, albeit showing an accurate 100 per cent view, amost unique in DSLRs but very necessary to make maximum use of 5 megapixels.

The A100 isn't 'already broken'. It can shoot over 100 JPEGs at 2.3 fps (it claims 3 fps, but to get that you have to use manual focus and a fast shutter speed) before shutting down and warning you that such a long sequence is overheating the CCD. It can shoot not the 3 raw files in sequence it claims to, but up to 12 with a typical fast CF card. It's got the fastest image to card transfer of any DSLR yet made - ANY yet made, in any class or at any price - and the camera is ready to shoot again only 2 seconds after completing the sort of run mentioned above. What this means in practice, with realistic bursts of 5-6 frames to catch a moment in action shooting, is you are always ready for the next shot.

There is one fault with the A100, and that is its 1600 ISO setting. The 800 is fine. Every other aspect of the camera is well up to any opposition, from metering to focusing; it has the greatest dynamic range, at 8.7 stops, of any camera in its class at ISO 100. The 40-zone metering, and the DRO+ function, are quite remarkable - and if you feel inclined to trash DRO+, your E-1 also has it, but only if you get Olympus Studio or Olympus Master software, where the same Apical Ltd process is licenced and called something like auto contrast adjustment or auto tone adjustment. The A100 does this in-camera in 0.5 seconds.

It's not perfect, but the E-1 despite its excellent qualities of build, weatherproofing and handling is not perfect either. I know which camera I would rather use for a double page spread landscape or architectural shot, because I have used both for this purpose. The E-1 will just get there with great care in raw processing and subsequent sharpening for repro. The A100 will do it every time with detail that simply isn't present in the E-1 file.

When I tested the E-1 it was with the original very expensive top grade lenses, including the excellent 50mm f2 macro (but no real wide-angle as they had not made one at the time). A100s have been sent out for test with cheap plastic kit lenses; Olympus has only just started getting that sort of lens made for them, issued with their later models. The E-1 launch and press trials would be similar to the A100 being launched with the 16-80mm Zeiss lens and the reviewers also handed a 100mm f2.8 macro.

As a working professional camera, I have no doubt at all - the A100 wins over the E-1, despite the apparently more rugged and professional build of the E-1 body.

David
 
My Nikon CoolPix 5700 has a mag body. When it came it out retailed for as much as the A100.

It doesn't come close to the A100 in any area of performance other than convenient size. I think you have to go all te way to D200 to find a DSLR with mag body, expct to pay twice a much to bring it home & put a lens on it. Yhe Canon D30 is plastic.

Sony says the frame is mag with plastic body. I say a Rebel at WalMart witht'78-55 lens for about $870....that's about $100 less than the a100 w/18-70......it's no brainer in my book.
 
I havnt had a chance to look at the pictures yet but ...
I saw his posting history,...maybe you didn't.. Here is one of his many posts in the Sony forum where he is displaying pictures taken with his Sony camera... How about that..

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=17602415

Maybe you guys ought to hear what he has to say,..he is entitled to his opinion, am I correct..?

JP
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http://www.onemodelplace.com/johnpaul

 
His posts are half Sony, half Canon. Looks like he's really "trashing" Sony wih those pictures he posted. :) Read don't just knee jerk.

Sony is trying to make a lot of bucks with a sensor it already had, with a body it bought.
 
D30
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canond30/page3.asp

30D
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos30d/page3.asp

Cheers,

José
My Nikon CoolPix 5700 has a mag body. When it came it out retailed
for as much as the A100.

It doesn't come close to the A100 in any area of performance other
than convenient size. I think you have to go all te way to D200 to
find a DSLR with mag body, expct to pay twice a much to bring it
home & put a lens on it. Yhe Canon D30 is plastic.

Sony says the frame is mag with plastic body. I say a Rebel at
WalMart witht'78-55 lens for about $870....that's about $100 less
than the a100 w/18-70......it's no brainer in my book.
--
Shooting with the famous Replacements (1DMarkIIN, 30D and SD700IS)
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/canon_1dmk2n
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/canon_30and20d
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
 
The camera reminds me of a toy camera, and was very disappointed after trying it. The H5 seemed better constructed. Oh well, may look at other brands. Just my opinion and no personal insult intended for those that love the Sony A100.
 
Well I just bought my A100 and have been using it for a day and so far I like the feel and the photos I have taken so far. I got the body only and then bought the Tamron 28-300 mm f3.5-f6.3. I have been running the gambit and will test it throughly before my return date expires but I am sure that I will keep it. It is much better than my Cannon Rebel.
 
My mistake, I didn't know Canon made two cameras with similiar names. I thank you for the correction.
30D
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos30d/page3.asp

Cheers,

José
My Nikon CoolPix 5700 has a mag body. When it came it out retailed
for as much as the A100.

It doesn't come close to the A100 in any area of performance other
than convenient size. I think you have to go all te way to D200 to
find a DSLR with mag body, expct to pay twice a much to bring it
home & put a lens on it. Yhe Canon D30 is plastic.

Sony says the frame is mag with plastic body. I say a Rebel at
WalMart witht'78-55 lens for about $870....that's about $100 less
than the a100 w/18-70......it's no brainer in my book.
--
Shooting with the famous Replacements (1DMarkIIN, 30D and SD700IS)
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/canon_1dmk2n
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/canon_30and20d
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
 

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