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Wanted to test out the camera (C3030 zoom) and see if the problem is with the camera or the operator....please tell me what you think of the quality of these pictures









 
Hi jfabes,

A little more info would be good.

What time of day did you take these? It looks to me like mid afternoon, but then I'm at work, and the monitors aren't the greatest, but the pic's still look a bit washed out.

I would recommend you get back out there, if possible, and get some evening or late afternoon shots with some warmer light, or, possibly in the morning.

--Vance.
 
The pics were taken at around 5,000ft elevation, sometime around 10a.m. I think there is something seriously wrong with the camera so I may send it in to Olmympus to be serviced and see if something really is wrong with it.
 
jfabes,

These look much better than the last one I saw from Show Low (snow shot), and similar to my E-10 shots around this morning in Phoenix. It is an over cast day here, too, which really clobbers the 'reds'! I can see a bit of bark on one of the trees- it looks OK.
For these, did you select Auto-White Balance, or did you use another?

David
Wanted to test out the camera (C3030 zoom) and see if the problem
is with the camera or the operator....please tell me what you think
of the quality of these pictures
 
jfabes,

These look much better than the last one I saw from Show Low (snow
shot), and similar to my E-10 shots around this morning in Phoenix.
It is an over cast day here, too, which really clobbers the 'reds'!
I can see a bit of bark on one of the trees- it looks OK.
For these, did you select Auto-White Balance, or did you use another?

David
Yes sir I did select the Auto-White Balance. These pictures turned out ok, but I still dont see the quality in these pics that other C3030's are producing.
 
jfabes wrote:
crappy camera .........

I fail to understand what you find so wrong with these pics. I see nothing that is being done by the camera ... however, you would benefit from a haze filter. Is this your first camera ... first digital camera ... what do you expect from the camera? Here are you images corrected in Photoshop. Took me 15 minutes to download them, correct them, and reload them ... so there was not much wrong to start with. Sending this camera to Olympus is a waste of your time ... learn to use the camera!







 
jfabes wrote:
crappy camera .........
I fail to understand what you find so wrong with these pics. I see
nothing that is being done by the camera ... however, you would
benefit from a haze filter. Is this your first camera ... first
digital camera ... what do you expect from the camera? Here are
you images corrected in Photoshop. Took me 15 minutes to download
them, correct them, and reload them ... so there was not much wrong
to start with. Sending this camera to Olympus is a waste of your
time ... learn to use the camera!
No this is not my first digital camera. For what I paid for it, I ASSumed that it would produce better quality pictures. The pictures you "corrected" in photoshop, what exactly did you do to them in photoshop? They look a bit cleared and crisper than the original pictures I posted.

Also, I am new to photography and dont know what a haze filter is. Could you please explain to me what it will do for me (my camera and the pictures I take) and where I could purchase one for my camera.
 
As an example, in this picture I wanted to focus on the large leaf in the picture and have the rest of the plant somewhat blurry, but it did not work as I had planned. The leaf came out somewhat blurry...I was using the manual focus...guess I have a lot to learn about photography?





 
No this is not my first digital camera. For what I paid for it, I
ASSumed that it would produce better quality pictures. The pictures
you "corrected" in photoshop, what exactly did you do to them in
photoshop? They look a bit cleared and crisper than the original
pictures I posted.

Also, I am new to photography and dont know what a haze filter is.
Could you please explain to me what it will do for me (my camera
and the pictures I take) and where I could purchase one for my
camera.
A haze or skylight filter will reduce the amount of haze and bring out the sky more ... especially in landscapes or distant mountains such as these pics. It also will protect you lens from scratches. It is a standard first purchase for any camera ... digital or film. As for what I did in Photoshop ... corrected for the nutural tone, the sky, and the foliage ... nothing more. Trying to explain Photoshop to you is beyond the scope of this forum ... however, any editing program ... Photoshop LE, Elements ... will do the same for you. You need to "bone up" on digital photography and learn to use an editing program. Being able to edit and change the image is the main advantage that digital has over film. What I did in 10 minutes would have taken you hours in a color lab. Suggest you go over to the other Olympus forum and post. That forum deals with your camera. We here do not mind answering your questions ... but they have more current and immediate information for you. Almost all of us here use E10s or E20s. However, if you feel comfortable here ... we welcome you. Cheers ... :-)
 
As an example, in this picture I wanted to focus on the large leaf
in the picture and have the rest of the plant somewhat blurry, but
it did not work as I had planned. The leaf came out somewhat
blurry...I was using the manual focus...guess I have a lot to learn
about photography?
I think you're concern is down to bad focussing. In any out of focus picture, look for a "plane" of focus - for you leaf picture, it's the small leaf at the bottom behind the main leaf. You've focus'ed, but not of the thing you wanted.

With regard to auto-focus (I'm guessing the 2nd and 3rd pics), the camera will look for a contrasting vertical line in the centre of the image (eg. black left, white right). Neither of your 2nd and 3rd pics has one. Pick something of the same distance with a contrasting vertical line, point the centre of the camera at it, half press the shutter to focus and hold half pressed, then recompose on the required image and push the rest of the way to take.

But watch out on the 3030Z that you don't suffer from a parrallax error - ie. you looking at something through the view-finder, while the lens is looking at something else which happens to be in the way - because it's not through-the-lens, as the subject gets closer, so the discrepancy between lens and view-finder increases.

Hope that helps and that I'm not teaching my grandmother to suck eggs!
Excal
--Excal
 
Hi jfabes

I think poster has given you some very good advice. I also think the camera is ok. Even us Exx users don't get dead on results every time. Thats the advantage of digital, you can take lots of shots. You might look in your camera manual about facal lenght. You might post your question on the Olympus Talk forum (this is the SLR forum) and get better results, as poster has stated most of us are E10 & E20 users here. But a lot of the forum members have multi camera experence. This is the best, (in my opinion) forum on dpr and you I'm sure you will always be welcome but be prepared to be given the advice to buy an E10.;?)
Happy shooting: Will Walton
 
Hi poster!

Actually, jfabes initial shots look very much like what I see outside my windows here in Phoenix. Your PS-processed versions of jfabes images look sharper, but saguaros, mesquite, and creosote look far too green! ;)

jfabes original posting (not here) was a view of snow and hillside alpine forest that showed a heavily bluish shade indicating either improperly set WB, or the camera badly mis-judged white. It is quite overcast today as well. I've had that happen with my E-10, so I go manual on WB.

jfabes-

Take some shots around town, indoors and out, on Auto-WB. Today is just plain too overcast to perform tests with any consistency.

Cheers!

David
jfabes wrote:
crappy camera .........
I fail to understand what you find so wrong with these pics. I see
nothing that is being done by the camera ... however, you would
benefit from a haze filter. Is this your first camera ... first
digital camera ... what do you expect from the camera? Here are
you images corrected in Photoshop. Took me 15 minutes to download
them, correct them, and reload them ... so there was not much wrong
to start with. Sending this camera to Olympus is a waste of your
time ... learn to use the camera!
 
I used a C3000z for a year, and found manual focusing using push buttons to be extremely difficult, especially when viewing with the lcd. My suggestion is to work with the AF as much as possible, using focus-lock techniques if your subject isn't in the center of the frame. FWIW, I found that with just a bit of post-editing, my C3000 photos came out pretty great, and print well as 8x10.

Andy
 
I used a C3000z for a year, and found manual focusing using push
buttons to be extremely difficult, especially when viewing with the
lcd.
I totally agree with Andy here. The manual focus on my 3030 is next to useless and totally useless outdoors because you have to use the LCD ... which is impossible to see in outdoor light. My advice ... learn to use the auto-focus and them use it all the time. Read the manual in detail and make sure you understand the auto-focus feature. It is much more than just point-and-shoot ... you can actually focus on exactly what you want ... you can actually control the focus ... even though it is auto-focus. Cheers ... :-)
 

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