Like John Dunn - I am thinking...

Thanks, Dave for taking the time to comment and posting such a sweet shot. I am so partial to the fawns! Maybe it is the 'mother' in me..haha. No, I don't hunt, but my husband is an avid deer & wild turkey hunter. We eat pretty much ONLY deer meat. But, I am really stressed out about Bambi's mom being shot after taking so many images of Doe & fawn together this summer. I guess it is just part of life - but I feel just as sad when I see them hit by a car.
Good luck with your deer shooting (either way)
  • Barb
Hey Barb.........just go with the flow. You have the equipment, now
just get the shot when it comes along. You don't need a DSLR! You
seem to be really into Deer. Don't know if your a
Hunter..........but glad you like to get shots of such a Great
Animal. I have been a Deer hunter for 35 years(sure many here will
rake me over the coals) and now that I have gotten into Photography
all I think about is how many great shots I missed with the Sony! I
will still hunt but the H1 will be with me now and I'll be looking
to get the SHOT with the Sony. Here is a shot I got in July, such a
Noble Animal. Believe me....I would rather look at them now.
Dave



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Sony H-1 & VCL-DH 1758
Just wanting to Learn
Proud to be a Member of the STF
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'He who has never seen a bluebird only half lives.'



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I once did a bird cover magazine - though not exclusively bluebirds. I don't know what the next step is - I really would LOVE to use say a Canon Rebel with a bunch of lenses for a week. But I think for now - I should try to master the H5 - push it as far as a I can push in every direction...then maybe I'll think some more.

By the way - I don't know how you will ever be satisfied with a camera phone after you've had these great cameras. I have the pink motorola razr and I never use it to take pics. I transfer them from my computer to my phone. I guess there are much better ones than mine out there!

Thanks, again for your input,
Barb


You should have one for bluebirds, too.
What's the next step?
I don't think it's about equipment for me, although I have been
looking closely at camera phones. I like to have a little camera
with me, but I lost my L1.
However, thinking about where I am and where I have been with my
photography seems to be shaping my thought.
I hope that your next step opens doors to much growth and enjoyment.
John Dunn
--
'He who has never seen a bluebird only half lives.'



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It was good to read your level headed comments about the H5 vs a DSLR.

And you are so right, especially about people falling for the hype. I think we all get in a photo rut, where we think a new camera, lens, workshop, etc. is going to solve the problem.

What happens to me is that I go to smugmug & other photo sites and start looking at some of the birds and animals and they are SO EXCELLENT compared to my attempts that I truly feel like quitting. Do you remember a guy that used to be on STF all the time - Harry Behret? His photos are to die for and I remember when he got his DSLR - he just gets better and better. Maybe that will never happen for me - but I do have picture ENVY big time! However, the bottom line is that I am not going to make the sacrifice financially or physically to produce that kind of photography - I guess I need to be happy with what I do get.

I very much appreciate your comments!
  • Barb
Oh, Barb!

Don't fall for hype. In normal light and conditions, there's very
little difference between the picture you get from most DSLRs and
the picture you get from an H5.

Cons:

a) Getting a DSLR with thousands of dollars in expensive, big
lenses, will not ensure that you take bigger pictures.

b) It will ensure that you will suffer from lens lust for the rest
of your life, always hoping the next, bigger, more expensive piece
of glass will get you the next great shot. Usually, it only gets
you more glass, and poorer.

Many people who buy big glass end up getting rid of it. Because it
is huge and heavy and unless you have a significant need and
commitment to the big glass, it is more of a pain than a benefit.
Trust me, I've been there.

c) The DSLR is not the panacea you think it is. It is, in fact,
just a camera. And the eye behind the viewfinder is infinitely more
imporant and valuable than any equipment you can buy.

d) High-ISO is not what it's cracked up to be. Though one brand may
have a stop or a stop-and-a-half better than the other, none of
them can perform miracles: only light makes good photos.
Amplification does not.

Pros:

a) If you need to get a shot in a split-second... if you are
shooting rapidly moving wildlife in bright daylight, the DSLR may
be a necessity. I use mine for just that purpose. For instance, I
shot a tennis match today. And even though I thought that my D200
was doing a much better job of stopping the action, the results do
not confirm that. I was amazed to see how many of my H5 shots
stopped the ball just before it hit the racket, or just over the
net. I thought it had missed them. It didn't. (I'll post some
tommorrow).

b) You do have many more options for specialty lenses, like a 500
mm zoom (the Sigma Bigma - 50-500, 75-750 on a DX crop sensor).

On the other hand, the H5 gives you 36-734 mm with the $100
teleconverter! :-)

c) The huge advantage of the DSLR, to me, is its many more options.
Not just glass, but the hundreds of settings available in my Nikon
D200's menus, autofocus, flash and metering.

On the other hand, it can take a long time to get the settings
right (believe it or not, I'm still experimenting with mine).

And, those settings can be a big pain when you need to get the shot
fast.

Let me correct one major misapprension of yours. The Carl Zeiss
lens on your H5 is every bit as good as -most- DSLR glass, just
smaller. The zoom range you have will be difficult and very
expensive to match. Many thousands of dollars, esp. if you add-in
Macro.

Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it. And be
terribly disappointed that it didn't give you what you need.

Don't get me wrong, if you need 5 frames per second (which I
sometimes do) and RAW files (which I always do) and a sophisticated
Flash system (which I do), then a DSLR is an excellent choice.

But if you're just trying to capture a relatively sedentary deer in
the fields or the woods, the H5 will do as well as a DSLR in almost
all situations.

I believe that the best upgrade to any camera system is the
education of the photographer!

--
=~ AAK - http://www.aakatz.com
=~ Author of the H-Series White Paper
=~ http://www.aakatz.com/h1whitepaper
--
'He who has never seen a bluebird only half lives.'



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I'm torn between a DSLR and the H5. If the H5 will work for me
shooting rodeos at night in some arenas that are a little short on
lighting, I think I'd would be happy with it. I used a Minolta SLR
(XD5) for 25 years until it bit the dust. Lugging SLR equipment
around all day is a pain and I didn't have that much stuff. Has
anybody shot rodeos, ball games, etc. at night with the H5?
--

Richard B.
DSC-F717, Sunpak 383, TCON-17, Stroboflip, Sony remote.
--
'He who has never seen a bluebird only half lives.'



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I am kind of a gear head. I look at the latest and most expensive gear out there and think to my self " if only .... " I have spent about $3000.00 on camera gear over the past 2 years and I second guess this decision all the time.

I dont think my pictures are any better than some shot with the H series cameras. Some are ,most are not. I think about famous photographers from the past and wonder how the H5 would compare to the gear they had back then. They worked with what they had and became artists with it, Masters of light ect etc. I am actually thinking of dumping allot of my gear and going back to the H1 or H5.

Simpler,lighter and focusing on my personal skills rather than my gear. I would like to try and be more creative in my vision rather than just pointing the lens and expecting results.

JMHO
 
I'm torn between a DSLR and the H5. If the H5 will work for me
shooting rodeos at night in some arenas that are a little short on
lighting, I think I'd would be happy with it. I used a Minolta SLR
(XD5) for 25 years until it bit the dust. Lugging SLR equipment
around all day is a pain and I didn't have that much stuff. Has
anybody shot rodeos, ball games, etc. at night with the H5?
I have found outdoor events, at night, to be a pain with -any- camera. My Nikon is no better than the H5 in those circumstances. Well, maybe a little better, but since the result is generally still underexposed, I have to do significant brightening and noise-reduction even with the DSLR.
--

Richard B.
DSC-F717, Sunpak 383, TCON-17, Stroboflip, Sony remote.
--
=~ AAK - http://www.aakatz.com
=~ Author of the H-Series White Paper
=~ http://www.aakatz.com/h1whitepaper
 
Yes, Harry does wonderful photos. And he probably did need the other 10-15% that the DSLR delivers in order to move to another level. That difference is real, and it's why I invested thousands of dollars in my own DSLR kit.

Harry was, undoubtedly, at the outer limit of what his digicam allowed him to do. Of course, there was no H5 at the time - you need to keep in mind that this little camera is producing amazing output for such a small investment and so little weight. Previous generations of digicam did not produce such near-DSLR quality.

Most people, IMHO, go to DSLR long before they -need- to go to DSLR and end up with worse pictures instead of better. Too much to think about, too much to do, different results with each lens, much less help from the camera, etc.

Barb, when you get to YOUR limitations, when you know it's not your skill, but the limitations of your equipment that's hampering you from elevating the level of your photography, then it is perhaps time to bite the bullet.

But not with unrealistic expectations!

--
=~ AAK - http://www.aakatz.com
=~ Author of the H-Series White Paper
=~ http://www.aakatz.com/h1whitepaper
 
I am kind of a gear head. I look at the latest and most expensive
gear out there and think to my self " if only .... " I have spent
about $3000.00 on camera gear over the past 2 years and I second
guess this decision all the time.

I dont think my pictures are any better than some shot with the H
series cameras. Some are ,most are not. I think about famous
photographers from the past and wonder how the H5 would compare to
the gear they had back then. They worked with what they had and
became artists with it, Masters of light ect etc. I am actually
thinking of dumping allot of my gear and going back to the H1 or H5.

Simpler,lighter and focusing on my personal skills rather than my
gear. I would like to try and be more creative in my vision rather
than just pointing the lens and expecting results.

JMHO
--
'He who has never seen a bluebird only half lives.'



http://barbi.smugmug.com/
 
when you get to YOUR limitations, when you know it's not your skill, but the limitations of your equipment that's hampering you from elevating the level of your photography, then it is perhaps time to bite the bullet.
But not with unrealistic expectations!


This is the difficult thing to figure out, isn't it? That is when a forum like STF can really be helpfu. And thank you so much for your wonderful input.

Rare is the man (or lady) who can ADMIT that a camera like the H5 can and does get close to DSLR quality! Your opinion and work here is invaluable!
  • Barb
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'He who has never seen a bluebird only half lives.'



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