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While I agree with the sentiment of your post, I must (again) say this:
THE D70S IS NOT 2.5 YEARS OLD!!!
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Nikon, please discontinue the D70s
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THE D70S IS NOT 2.5 YEARS OLD!!!
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George Czajkowski
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D70s is just a slightly tweaked update to D70. The latter one was indeed introduced over 2.5 years ago.
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Mach Schnell
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I have both a D70 and a D200. I still use the D70 sometimes. It is a great little camera with a lot of advanced features. Just because something new comes along doesn't make the older version any less capable. Sure, I don't care for the small viewfinder. And the 1.8" LCD seems tiny after getting used to the 2.5" on the D200. But, hey, it still takes great pictures. I think some day I'll have it converted to full-time infrared photography.
My D70 captured this image in Hungary. It is capable of great shots.
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pavi1
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It is a true statistic with all currently available cameras, therefore I have no reason to believe this camera will be any different.
It will probably be a great camera just as the D200 is a great camera. I just have more need for more lenses than I do more pixels.
Everything happens for a reason.
It will probably be a great camera just as the D200 is a great camera. I just have more need for more lenses than I do more pixels.
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English
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Read again: THE D70S IS NOT 2.5 YEARS OLD!!! The D70s isn't the D70. As you said, it was an update.
Dictionary:
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verb [T]
To make something more modern or suitable for use now by adding new information or changing its design:
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dumbo
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The technology in the two are the same. The D70s only have larger LCD, wired remote and slightly wider flash coverage, which does not make it "more modern" in any way. It's the same technology, just slightly tweaked.
Nikon133
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Yeah, but, from that point of view - how many bits inside D80 are, like, brand new, just developed? Camera is mostly a mix between D200 and D50... D200 is a year old. D50 even older.
Anyway, whole discussion is pointless... if D70s still sells, I see no reason why Nikon should discontinue this camera. It is actually sweet spot for them - being sold in such volumes, it payed off R&D and production setup... at this point it is basically just generating money.
It probably is first camera to be discontinued (unless something like D3H doesn't cancel D2H), but is this right moment? Personally I don't think so. Maybe when D90 comes out.
dumbo
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The D80 is, per se, a whole new design, even if many of the parts used in it have been used before, of course. The D70s is pretty much only a carbon copy of the D70.
Well, it would be a little hard to fit it between the D50 and the D200. It's to similar to the D70, IMO. But that's for Nikon to decide.
Nikon133
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It is hardly appropriate compare, but let's see...
Do I prefer 3.5 or 2.5 l engine, regarding my tank capacity and fuel economy (sensor size, file size)?
Do I prefer older but quick-shifting gearbox that is likely to last longer than new one (shutter speed and mechanism expected life)?
Do I prefer more leg room for rear seats, or more compact and sporty body (body size)?
Is Toyota going to offer some extra discounts for last year model, as soon as they receive first batch of new model..?
New is new, but headlights are a bit better on older model (flash sync).
Sure new model has bigger windshield (viewfinder), cruse control (extra buttons), better rear visibility (LCD screen), and it is expected to ride a bit better (D-lightning, better DR, buffer size) with less cabin noise (ISO). But it is not better in every single point. if Toyota gives me good price for 2005 Camry..?
English
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What part of:
THE D70S IS NOT 2.5 YEARS OLD!!
are you finding so hard to understand?
Every single Nikon camera is "slightly tweaked" technology.
Do you think they re-invent the wheel every time they make a camera?
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dumbo
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The D70s is almost identical to the D70. It's so alike that it can be very much considered the same. It's nothing like the D70 is way faster and have much better metering and flash system than the D100, or that the D50 have a completely different JPEG engine.
If you want to think of the D70s as a revolutionary, extraordinary piece of new technology, then go ahead.
The D70s was nothing but a little tweak to be able to keep the price up while the D50 was hitting the market. If the hadn't released the D70 the most certainly would not have released the D70s either.
If you want to think of the D70s as a revolutionary, extraordinary piece of new technology, then go ahead.
The D70s was nothing but a little tweak to be able to keep the price up while the D50 was hitting the market. If the hadn't released the D70 the most certainly would not have released the D70s either.
dirtee1
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Seconded.
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English
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Oh dear. You're still having a problem with this Dumbo.
The original false claim, that you're trying to back up was that the D70s is a 2.5 year old design. That is patently untrue.
It not be a revolutionary redesign, but it was a redesign nonetheless.
It was a new model released in 2005. It's pointless arguing about how big, or small the changes were (and we don't know the exact extent anyway). It was a new model and redesign.
Therefore, you cannot dismiss the D70s so lightly as 2.5 year old design/technology.
It's really not that hard. Try to keep up.
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George Czajkowski
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And yet production of D70s is already winding down to make room for D80. It will be completely discontinued by the end of 2006. Nikon will of course not announce this officially as they still want to sell those D70s that already are in warehouses and stores.
From Nikon's perspective D80 completely replaces D70s.
Source:
http://www.graysofwestminster.co.uk/newsitem.php?id=152&pg=1&mem=&arc=Y
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dirtee1
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Agreed.
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English
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Yes, I agree. I don't see there's any way they'll keep the D70s going now.
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DavidLan
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Yep, but no worse than many others.
From a personnel viewpoint Nikon lost their way a while back in film days whne they started producing lots of different models almost each year. I hope that does not happen with digital.
My D70 takes better photos now because I have learnt to use it. Would I get a D80? possiblely for the brighter viewfinder. Since other cameras in my family's use use SD cards and that they are so cheap now makies it a none issue. But I will wait six months to see how it performs in the real world.
By the wat does it have mirror lock up?
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From a personnel viewpoint Nikon lost their way a while back in film days whne they started producing lots of different models almost each year. I hope that does not happen with digital.
My D70 takes better photos now because I have learnt to use it. Would I get a D80? possiblely for the brighter viewfinder. Since other cameras in my family's use use SD cards and that they are so cheap now makies it a none issue. But I will wait six months to see how it performs in the real world.
By the wat does it have mirror lock up?
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Nikon133
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A whole new design in D50 body, with (presumably) D50 shutter, D50 memory compartment, D200 sensor, D200 viewfinder, etc. etc..? Only new thing about that camera is how they put old parts together.
Therefore, I see it just as more aggressive D50 redesign. Now D200 WAS new design. New body, new sensor. A lot of new stuff. D80..?
Nice camera, though.
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