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Why is Canon more popular than Nikon?
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NIKONCANADA
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Well isn't isn't Hassel or Zeiss Ikon or whatever some of the worst camera ever made? You hardly seen anyone using it, they surely must bomb in IQ now~ If all you care Canon popularity as IQ standard...
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But Phils conclusion to real image test is a bit disagreeing with this
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos5d/page27.asp
And we do not know the lens contribution to these tests as we now talk of so marginal differences.
My point was just to say the Julie claim of Canon not having the equal resolution is not actually true - and not to start any bigger comparison.
Do you mean higher resolution, higher resolving power or higher pixel density. In the last one sure, but not in the two first one as I see these.
Well, just look how superios are those sensors used e.g. in mobile camera phones. Start to be around 500 pixs per mm. So all the dSLR sensors must be old junk ;-)perhaps you should do thatresolution is pixels per mm.
D2X is 181 pixels per mm
5D is 121 pixels per mm
1Ds2 is 139 pixels per mm
Somehow I just think I get better images with my dSLR than with my camera phone. Perhaps the higher pixel density is not a blessing.
May do that if you give me the link. I have seen quite many of the real tests.
Why?
I'm sure you have the facts there right (although have not checked that).
Julia Borg
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I was awaiting exactly this argument. mind you we were comparing tech specs of Nikon and Canon, not anything else.Well, just look how superios are those sensors used e.g. in mobileperhaps you should do that
D2X is 181 pixels per mm
5D is 121 pixels per mm
1Ds2 is 139 pixels per mm
camera phones. Start to be around 500 pixs per mm.
Now D2X is dSLR, right? so camera phones do not play in this discussion. whatever good their pixels are, or will be, 250lppm across the field is expensive optics.
to a margin, until it reaches approximately 200 pixels per mm - it is a blessing. that's why Canon shooters want 22 megapixels
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agenkin
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Not necessarily disagreeing: Phil used a better comparison method in the 30D review. In the 5D review, he compares out of the camera JPEG images, with various sharpening methods. Ideally, Phil would be comparing raw images with in-camera sharpening turned off, later developing them with the same software and applying the same sharpening algorithm (which is what was done in the 30D review, the link that I provided). So, according to the latest methodology, D2X outperesolves 5D.
This is a very valid point, and the uncertainty could work either way.
Yes, I would not subscribe to Julie's words exactly.
What's the distinction between the first two.
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Canon is more popular because its sensors have more pixels. The Rebel XT has more pixels than the D70. The 5D has more pixels than the D200. The 1DS has more pixels than the D2X. Things will change shortly. The D80 and Sony Alpha 100 will have more pixels than the Canon 30D and Rebel XT. This fact will make these two cameras more popular than the Canon 30D and Rebel XT, and then Canon will respond with replacements for these two cameras that have even more pixels.Seriously, I look at this two brands and like (and dislike) both
sets of features. If I can afford it, I'd buy both systems! Who
don't
As for why Canon is much more popular? Well, just read up on
Canon's revival in the industry and you'd see how strong a company
it is. And for that, I think they totally deserve the domination in
the industry...even though I still (personally) pro Nikon
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With lens selection. First you bring up 3 tilt shifts like thats a huge deal (Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see very high demand for them). But I can give you that one. Then on the 70-200 you toss in: IS, non IS, F4 and "color choice N/A". Color choice? Come on man.
But the thing I don't get is you want to leave out you can go buy 30+ years of Nikon glass. You insist its a seperate discussion. Why? You can buy them, they work on the DSLR's. You are basically saying "We have to leave this factor out because I like Canon", and thats bogus. Canon HAD to bring many versions to market when they obsoleted their old mount. Suddenly their old lenses didn't work. Nikon didn't do that, they had no reason to bring a 70-200 VR, non VR, and F4. Why? Older lenses. 70-200VR replaced the 80-200. In that zoom range, give or take 10mm, we have 6 lenses to choose from, not including the multipule versions of the 80-200. But because you wanna prove how much better Canon is, you say we can only use the 70-200 VR. Rediculous.
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But the thing I don't get is you want to leave out you can go buy 30+ years of Nikon glass. You insist its a seperate discussion. Why? You can buy them, they work on the DSLR's. You are basically saying "We have to leave this factor out because I like Canon", and thats bogus. Canon HAD to bring many versions to market when they obsoleted their old mount. Suddenly their old lenses didn't work. Nikon didn't do that, they had no reason to bring a 70-200 VR, non VR, and F4. Why? Older lenses. 70-200VR replaced the 80-200. In that zoom range, give or take 10mm, we have 6 lenses to choose from, not including the multipule versions of the 80-200. But because you wanna prove how much better Canon is, you say we can only use the 70-200 VR. Rediculous.
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John Cerra2
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon
At the end of the first paragraph;
' Nikon is one of the Mitsubishi companies.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi
Bottom of the history part;
'Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, which includes these industrial companies.
Mitsubishi Motors, the 4th largest Japanese auto manufacturer.
Mitsubishi Atomic Industry, a nuclear power company.
Mitsubishi Chemical, the largest Japanese chemicals company
Nikon Corporation, a well-known brand of photographic equipment.'
It is wrong. See these links:
http://www.nikon.com/
http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/portfolio/ir/index.htm
Nikon is a publicly traded company domiciled in Japan.
You could shares in them if you wish.
Wikipedia is a user contributed encyclopedia. False information is frequently found there.
At the end of the first paragraph;
' Nikon is one of the Mitsubishi companies.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi
Bottom of the history part;
'Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, which includes these industrial companies.
Mitsubishi Motors, the 4th largest Japanese auto manufacturer.
Mitsubishi Atomic Industry, a nuclear power company.
Mitsubishi Chemical, the largest Japanese chemicals company
Nikon Corporation, a well-known brand of photographic equipment.'
It is wrong. See these links:
http://www.nikon.com/
http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/portfolio/ir/index.htm
Nikon is a publicly traded company domiciled in Japan.
You could shares in them if you wish.
Wikipedia is a user contributed encyclopedia. False information is frequently found there.
Spanner
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'C' comes before' N' in the phonebook......brilliant.
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thw
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Can the old 80-200 autofocus on today's DSLRs? I believe Canon also has some old 80-200 f/2.8L, 100-300 f/5.6L lenses etc that will still work. I am just curious.
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I, for one, am glad that Canon and Sony are pushing the envelop and forcing Nikon to work hard to stay in the game. I can foresee a 30 mexapixel D300 in 2010 at $600 for the body, full frame or "cropped."
at $600 for the body, full frame or "cropped."
RomanJohnston
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I purchase the camera that gets the job done and meets my expectations.
It just happens to be a Nikon.
Guess Hasselblad must REALLY suck...they dont have ANY Posts!!!
If I wanted popular photographic jewlery.....I might change my mind.....till then I use what works for me.
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It just happens to be a Nikon.
Guess Hasselblad must REALLY suck...they dont have ANY Posts!!!
If I wanted popular photographic jewlery.....I might change my mind.....till then I use what works for me.
Roman
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W Pontius
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Who really cares if it is more "popular" ??? I belong to places like dpreview to learn why things are better, more accurate, better made, have better specs,are prettier etc etc etc not more popular !! This question has been beaten to death. 8> ) Lets move on. At least on this forum.
Bill Pontius
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Sorry typo on the first one.
Roman
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Hi Gustavo.
I'm little on the same lines with you on the first paragraph; Canon has the best range of products, meaning the widest/most complete range going from couple of dozen P&S's to really expensive professional DSLR's
Thanks for the information about Canon/Nikon brief history. You have had one of the most reasonable explanations so far.
Off-Topic I use Nikon D50 and three F-mount lenses and have had some amazing results. No doubt I would've gotten the same results with Canon equipment. (Actually I kind of fancied the EOS 33V years back, way too expensive for me though. ) But I'm really fond of Nikon system right now and if more expensive lenses ever come to play I'll doupt that I'd change a system for the more popular one. Call me old fashioned then.
Best of luck.
-T
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I'm little on the same lines with you on the first paragraph; Canon has the best range of products, meaning the widest/most complete range going from couple of dozen P&S's to really expensive professional DSLR's
Thanks for the information about Canon/Nikon brief history. You have had one of the most reasonable explanations so far.
Off-Topic I use Nikon D50 and three F-mount lenses and have had some amazing results. No doubt I would've gotten the same results with Canon equipment. (Actually I kind of fancied the EOS 33V years back, way too expensive for me though.
) But I'm really fond of Nikon system right now and if more expensive lenses ever come to play I'll doupt that I'd change a system for the more popular one. Call me old fashioned then. Exactly! Hear,Hear.
Best of luck.
-T
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