Michael Singewald
Active member
I remember reading a post a while back from the creators of YARC saying they had a new program coming soon. I haven't been following the forums for a bit, have I missed any developments on this?
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New version of YARC coming?
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Peter Stewart
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And the relationship of this post in this forum to Canon SLRs is........?
Yu-Lin Chan
Well-known member
YARC is a fabulous RAW to TIFF batch converter. It's very much related to this forum. I suspect that you didn't know what YARC was.
Bananas in Paris
Veteran Member
What's wrong Peter?
Is Michael taking up precious space of this Forum just because he posts a question about software made to be used by the D30?
My posts are not always D30 specific, but I choose to place them here because I consider this Forum to be similar to a circle of friends.
I've been a member for a while and like to be talking with people who I am familiar with.
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Andrzej
Is Michael taking up precious space of this Forum just because he posts a question about software made to be used by the D30?
My posts are not always D30 specific, but I choose to place them here because I consider this Forum to be similar to a circle of friends.
I've been a member for a while and like to be talking with people who I am familiar with.
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Andrzej
--Andrzej http://www.oysterstudio.com
Kevin50205
Forum Enthusiast
Peter,
Are you in a bad mood today or what??? That is the second really sarcastic post of yours I have read in the last 5 minutes. Why don't you chill out and take a breather.
Your post are the ones that do not have any place in this forum.
The Yarc prgram is related to the canon d30 in that it is software many people use with the camera.
And the guy with the question about the battery grip was asking a legit question. If you do not have anything productive to say...DON'T SAY IT.
Have a nice day.
Are you in a bad mood today or what??? That is the second really sarcastic post of yours I have read in the last 5 minutes. Why don't you chill out and take a breather.
Your post are the ones that do not have any place in this forum.
The Yarc prgram is related to the canon d30 in that it is software many people use with the camera.
And the guy with the question about the battery grip was asking a legit question. If you do not have anything productive to say...DON'T SAY IT.
Have a nice day.
--Kevin http://www.firestorm.com - Add your site today! http://www.firestorm.com/forum/ProjectD30.com - Coming January 2002
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Peter Stewart
Guest
First I'd like to immediately apologize to Michael concerning the original post.
No I didn't know YARC was a conversion utility for Canon cameras; have never (that I remember) seen a single thread on that in the over three years I've been in these forums.
The only YARC I've ever seen is a RIP to be used on wide and ultra-wide format printers such as my Epson 9500 and considered getting one after getting the printer last summer. Waaaay too expensive.
Secondly, to respond to Andrzej. Your statement: "My posts are not always D30 specific, but I choose to place them here because I consider this Forum to be similar to a circle of friends."
Hmmm, let me mention, posts don't have to be "D30 specific" as this is the Canon SLR forum. As to posting other things here be because you "have a circle of friends" is something I dare not get into for people such as yourself will always, always, always come up with broad and often ridiculous rationalizations as to why it's okay to post off topic. Ya know, I bet, if I tried hard enough, I could somehow relate the mating habits of grasshoppers to the use of a Canon SLR. Darn, didn't entirely succeed in not going off on that statement. Nuff said.
Thirdly, yes Kevin, I guess I am just a tad in a pissy mood. I often get that way when I spend precious time reading posts of someone who is just too damn lazy to read their manual, which is too often the case. Phil has done a kickass job of building a wonderful, informative site but the fact is his forum format is horrendous slow and arduous to surf, especially on a dialup and time aggravates things a bit.
As to (1) my posts not having any place on this forum.....I beg your pardon?, and (2) as to me not having anything productive to say, well, perhaps, but after 26 years of making my living as a freelance photographer and owning 4 digital cameras, I personally think I have a great deal that can be added that is productive. And I have done so. But I'm very intolerant of stupid questions and people who are too lazy to read their manuals.
Whew!
Peter Stewart
No I didn't know YARC was a conversion utility for Canon cameras; have never (that I remember) seen a single thread on that in the over three years I've been in these forums.
The only YARC I've ever seen is a RIP to be used on wide and ultra-wide format printers such as my Epson 9500 and considered getting one after getting the printer last summer. Waaaay too expensive.
Secondly, to respond to Andrzej. Your statement: "My posts are not always D30 specific, but I choose to place them here because I consider this Forum to be similar to a circle of friends."
Hmmm, let me mention, posts don't have to be "D30 specific" as this is the Canon SLR forum. As to posting other things here be because you "have a circle of friends" is something I dare not get into for people such as yourself will always, always, always come up with broad and often ridiculous rationalizations as to why it's okay to post off topic. Ya know, I bet, if I tried hard enough, I could somehow relate the mating habits of grasshoppers to the use of a Canon SLR. Darn, didn't entirely succeed in not going off on that statement. Nuff said.
Thirdly, yes Kevin, I guess I am just a tad in a pissy mood. I often get that way when I spend precious time reading posts of someone who is just too damn lazy to read their manual, which is too often the case. Phil has done a kickass job of building a wonderful, informative site but the fact is his forum format is horrendous slow and arduous to surf, especially on a dialup and time aggravates things a bit.
As to (1) my posts not having any place on this forum.....I beg your pardon?, and (2) as to me not having anything productive to say, well, perhaps, but after 26 years of making my living as a freelance photographer and owning 4 digital cameras, I personally think I have a great deal that can be added that is productive. And I have done so. But I'm very intolerant of stupid questions and people who are too lazy to read their manuals.
Whew!
Peter Stewart
Bananas in Paris
Veteran Member
People who do not know how to behave have no place in a Forum like this.
Having several Digital Cameras does not qualify one to be automatically accepted by the members of this community. A few other qualities count as well.
Andrzej
Having several Digital Cameras does not qualify one to be automatically accepted by the members of this community. A few other qualities count as well.
Andrzej
--Andrzej http://www.oysterstudio.com
MikeA
Veteran Member
Kindly consider some commentary and advice from someone who has been participating in forums for about 15 years and who once moderated a forum that had national participation:
However intense your snit about someone else's "off-topic" message (which, as you now know, was NOT off-topic), it would be a rare occasion when a post in which you apologize for, then un-apologize for, then justify at length the aforesaid snit, contributes in any way to the forum. That kind of post constitutes topic pollution arguably worse than what you're complaining about. Yes, even a "stupid question" pollutes a forum less than your complaint about it.
Consider that your own "pissy" mood might not be as interesting as you imagine. I swear, I'm not making that up.
Ask questions rather than barging in under the assumption that a given post is off-topic. Here, I'll give you an example of how to do so: "What is YARC?" See? Wasn't that easy? (And because I am A Very Nice Person, I'll waive my usual exorbitant consulting fee this one time.)
.
Leave the moderation to the moderator. You aren't the moderator. Sorry.
And there's always: start your own forum. It's easy to do, all over the web, and you'll be in full control. You can even punish people for asking "stupid" questions by flaming them and then locking them off.
Just think: You could make yourself a genuine hero, looming ever larger in your own legend, by girding your electronic loins, gritting your electronic teeth, ignoring the "stupid questions," and continuing to make actual contributions -- leaving the somewhat-less-than-mesmerizing snits to others who have owned fewer than four (FOUR! WOW!) digital cameras, and whose stations in life, abilities to ask "non-stupid" questions, and grasp of photography do obviously pale in comparison to yours. Just a thought.
However intense your snit about someone else's "off-topic" message (which, as you now know, was NOT off-topic), it would be a rare occasion when a post in which you apologize for, then un-apologize for, then justify at length the aforesaid snit, contributes in any way to the forum. That kind of post constitutes topic pollution arguably worse than what you're complaining about. Yes, even a "stupid question" pollutes a forum less than your complaint about it.
Consider that your own "pissy" mood might not be as interesting as you imagine. I swear, I'm not making that up.
Ask questions rather than barging in under the assumption that a given post is off-topic. Here, I'll give you an example of how to do so: "What is YARC?" See? Wasn't that easy? (And because I am A Very Nice Person, I'll waive my usual exorbitant consulting fee this one time.)
There's a solution, brilliant in its simplicity, to this awful problem: if you begin reading a post or thread that displeases you, STOP READING IT before you've wasted your precious time. (And you might consider: it's a strange approach to conserving one's precious time, isn't it, to complain about someone else's having wasted your time -- though you know perfectly well that to waste it was a choice you made -- and then turn right around and waste yet more of it complaining about how much was already wasted. Can't win that one for losing, can you?
.Leave the moderation to the moderator. You aren't the moderator. Sorry.
And there's always: start your own forum. It's easy to do, all over the web, and you'll be in full control. You can even punish people for asking "stupid" questions by flaming them and then locking them off.
You can always vote with your electronic feet, then, by going somewhere else that is more emotionally and electronically satisfying. It isn't as if anyone holds a gun to your head, 1) forcing you to read messages that displease you or 2) preventing you from reading elsewhere.
Ah, the "stupid questions" complaint. The snob-thing. Lovely. It's like listening to Unix geeks slime people in forums where Perl is discussed. Gawd, how the poor things suffer from being forced to read "stupid questions."
Just think: You could make yourself a genuine hero, looming ever larger in your own legend, by girding your electronic loins, gritting your electronic teeth, ignoring the "stupid questions," and continuing to make actual contributions -- leaving the somewhat-less-than-mesmerizing snits to others who have owned fewer than four (FOUR! WOW!) digital cameras, and whose stations in life, abilities to ask "non-stupid" questions, and grasp of photography do obviously pale in comparison to yours. Just a thought.
Kenny Frank
Leading Member
I followed that link but didn't see anything other than a notice that Picturefolow is "coming soon." I couldn't find any descriptions of what the new version is going to do... did I miss something?
And a related question-- I assume YARC and Breezebrowser are comparable (as in similar functionality.) Is that correct? The workflow I have been using is Breezebrowser to convert my RAW files to linear 16bit tiffs, using Fred Miranda's PS actions to process the files, then converting to 8bit for final edits. Is there a reason I would consider YARC instead of Breezebrowser for that purpose?
Thanks,
Kenny Frank
And a related question-- I assume YARC and Breezebrowser are comparable (as in similar functionality.) Is that correct? The workflow I have been using is Breezebrowser to convert my RAW files to linear 16bit tiffs, using Fred Miranda's PS actions to process the files, then converting to 8bit for final edits. Is there a reason I would consider YARC instead of Breezebrowser for that purpose?
Thanks,
Kenny Frank
Bananas in Paris
Veteran Member
Just a general comment to the whole Internet Forum thing.
I find it very fascinating to see how much people are willing to speak up when there is no possibility of a confrontation with a "real" person.
Some of us are just saying things "straight from the gut". Things they would never say to a real "face".
I guess, we are all just virtual to each other. Ready to be erased with a click of the mouse if we please.
Very fascinating. No real humans here. Just opinionated bits.
Andrzej
I find it very fascinating to see how much people are willing to speak up when there is no possibility of a confrontation with a "real" person.
Some of us are just saying things "straight from the gut". Things they would never say to a real "face".
I guess, we are all just virtual to each other. Ready to be erased with a click of the mouse if we please.
Very fascinating. No real humans here. Just opinionated bits.
Andrzej
--Andrzej http://www.oysterstudio.comHowever intense your snit about someone else's "off-topic" message
(which, as you now know, was NOT off-topic), it would be a rare
occasion when a post in which you apologize for, then un-apologize
for, then justify at length the aforesaid snit, contributes in any
way to the forum. That kind of post constitutes topic pollution
arguably worse than what you're complaining about. Yes, even a
"stupid question" pollutes a forum less than your complaint about
it.
Consider that your own "pissy" mood might not be as interesting as
you imagine. I swear, I'm not making that up.
Ask questions rather than barging in under the assumption that a
given post is off-topic. Here, I'll give you an example of how to
do so: "What is YARC?" See? Wasn't that easy? (And because I am A
Very Nice Person, I'll waive my usual exorbitant consulting fee
this one time.)
There's a solution, brilliant in its simplicity, to this awful
problem: if you begin reading a post or thread that displeases you,
STOP READING IT before you've wasted your precious time. (And you
might consider: it's a strange approach to conserving one's
precious time, isn't it, to complain about someone else's having
wasted your time -- though you know perfectly well that to waste it
was a choice you made -- and then turn right around and waste yet
more of it complaining about how much was already wasted. Can't
win that one for losing, can you?
Leave the moderation to the moderator. You aren't the moderator.
Sorry.
And there's always: start your own forum. It's easy to do, all over
the web, and you'll be in full control. You can even punish people
for asking "stupid" questions by flaming them and then locking them
off.
You can always vote with your electronic feet, then, by going
somewhere else that is more emotionally and electronically
satisfying. It isn't as if anyone holds a gun to your head, 1)
forcing you to read messages that displease you or 2) preventing
you from reading elsewhere.
Ah, the "stupid questions" complaint. The snob-thing. Lovely. It's
like listening to Unix geeks slime people in forums where Perl is
discussed. Gawd, how the poor things suffer from being forced to
read "stupid questions."
Just think: You could make yourself a genuine hero, looming ever
larger in your own legend, by girding your electronic loins,
gritting your electronic teeth, ignoring the "stupid questions,"
and continuing to make actual contributions -- leaving the
somewhat-less-than-mesmerizing snits to others who have owned fewer
than four (FOUR! WOW!) digital cameras, and whose stations in life,
abilities to ask "non-stupid" questions, and grasp of photography
do obviously pale in comparison to yours. Just a thought.
MikeA
Veteran Member
Guilty as charged. I've been an opinionated bit for I-can't-remember-how-long.
It's true that people tend to say things to one another electronically that they wouldn't likely say face-to-face. Even so in my irritatingly optimistic way (except of course on days when I'm in complete despair
I think that in general, people who are polite by long habit do not without provocation post out-and-out rude replies, which they surely know are almost always guaranteed to provoke angry responses. I reckon that a lot of the time, their rudeness is calculated to elicit an angry or rude response. (Judging someone's question "stupid" is hardly a good provocation for a rude response, no matter how justified or gratified the rude person feels in doing so.)This forum, like "Oly SLR," is generally a friendly place and the occasional chatter about subjects not related to Canon cameras contributes to its being fun and interesting. Left to their own devices (as it were), photographers tend to become a humorless, dreary lot, rooting around in dots and individual grains, viewing prints with a loupe and so forth. Why foster that? Nah, a bit of "social" chit-chat every now and then -- and even [GASP!] the occasional discussion of photography as art rather than as Death By Technique [ GASP!] -- keeps this place interesting.
Bananas in Paris
Veteran Member
Ditto
--Andrzej http://www.oysterstudio.comGuilty as charged. I've been an opinionated bit for
I-can't-remember-how-long.
It's true that people tend to say things to one another
electronically that they wouldn't likely say face-to-face. Even so
in my irritatingly optimistic way (except of course on days when
I'm in complete despair
polite by long habit do not without provocation post out-and-out
rude replies, which they surely know are almost always guaranteed
to provoke angry responses. I reckon that a lot of the time, their
rudeness is calculated to elicit an angry or rude response.
(Judging someone's question "stupid" is hardly a good provocation
for a rude response, no matter how justified or gratified the rude
person feels in doing so.)
This forum, like "Oly SLR," is generally a friendly place and the
occasional chatter about subjects not related to Canon cameras
contributes to its being fun and interesting. Left to their own
devices (as it were), photographers tend to become a humorless,
dreary lot, rooting around in dots and individual grains, viewing
prints with a loupe and so forth. Why foster that? Nah, a bit of
"social" chit-chat every now and then -- and even [GASP!] the
occasional discussion of photography as art rather than as Death
By Technique [ GASP!] -- keeps this place interesting.
Andrew Grant27981
Veteran Member
There have been many threads about yarc. Breezebrowser is now the most talked about converion utililty but before Breezebrowser, yarc was a hot topic.
J
Jim Dawson
Guest
Didn't get anything for Christmas? I can't imagine why.
Do a search on YARC and you'll see how wrong you are.
Do a search on YARC and you'll see how wrong you are.
Kevin50205
Forum Enthusiast
Well, that is one thing you have done right...
You've been in these forums for over three years, and you say you have a lot to offer, but you post less than a message a week based on your profile, and the threads you do chose to partcipate in you are always being completely negative and flaming people. I find that what you have to offer is usually nothing worth reading. I am sure with your 25 years of experience you do have some valuable insight, you just chose not to share it. I will admit, I have only read a handful of your posts since the first 6 I read were nothing but complaints about the forum and your threats to leave it...
The fact the you planned to get this and how expensive it was to me is off topic...If we played by your rules.
The "nuff said" should have been placed at the begining of this paragraph or better yet, at the begining of the post.
You spend precious time reading posts that don't interest you, but even more time complaining about them...This tells me your time is not that precious to begin with.
(1) You can beg, but your not pardoned. Complaints and flames have no place on this forum. (2) The only stupid questions are those not asked because people are affraid that someone like you will get on their case.
Like I said, yoou probably really do have something to offer the forum with the amount of experiece you have...It is too bad you spend your time with the non-productive stuff.
Happy New Year...
--Kevin http://www.firestorm.com - Add your site today! http://www.firestorm.com/forum/ProjectD30.com - Coming January 2002
MichaelT
Veteran Member
Hi,
I just picked up on this thread which unfortunately went quite off topic from Yarc.
As I had mentioned casually in another thread we have cancelled the PictureFlow project and are working on a new and improved version of Yarc. It will be distribued via the PictureFlow website.
The crux of the matter is that rather than build a new large browser/converter program we have decided to stick to conversion and other smaller utilities.
So YarcPlus will be coming soon.
It will initially rely on the Canon SDK, so conversion times will be in line with Breeze Browser and Scott professional, however, there will also be some proprietary processing included that we hope yield higher image quality from the D30 in many cases.
We also feel that when combined with a browser/database such as ThumbsPlus, the speed and versitility of the RAW workflow is enhanced by using Yarc. The working name for the new product is YarcPlus.
I'll write up some additional details in a new post within a day or 2.
Yarc returns....
Thanks for your interest.
Michael Tapes
http://www.pictureflow.com--Regards,MichaelThttp://www.michaeltapes.com
I just picked up on this thread which unfortunately went quite off topic from Yarc.
As I had mentioned casually in another thread we have cancelled the PictureFlow project and are working on a new and improved version of Yarc. It will be distribued via the PictureFlow website.
The crux of the matter is that rather than build a new large browser/converter program we have decided to stick to conversion and other smaller utilities.
So YarcPlus will be coming soon.
It will initially rely on the Canon SDK, so conversion times will be in line with Breeze Browser and Scott professional, however, there will also be some proprietary processing included that we hope yield higher image quality from the D30 in many cases.
We also feel that when combined with a browser/database such as ThumbsPlus, the speed and versitility of the RAW workflow is enhanced by using Yarc. The working name for the new product is YarcPlus.
I'll write up some additional details in a new post within a day or 2.
Yarc returns....
Thanks for your interest.
Michael Tapes
http://www.pictureflow.com--Regards,MichaelThttp://www.michaeltapes.com
Robert Nicholson
Well-known member
If you don't know about YARC then don't presume that it's not relevant. It's one of the few programs that processes CRW files to JPEG and TIFF files so it is indeed quite relavant to this forum.
MagicAngel
Veteran Member
Yea, where is it going? Geesss...
That is good, you would be moving into an area where several outstanding products are control the market.
That is good to hear, Yarc is an outstanding product. Just needs a few things to make it work a little better, like a nice windows interface as well as a command line. I sort of feel like I have to jump through hoops to automate Yarc. I went as far as to write a program to write Yarc batch files to automate my workflow.
I'm looking forward to your new product, YarkPlus!
MichaelT
Veteran Member
I appreciate your comments and positive feedback.
If you or anyone has any wishes or suggestions for YarcPlus please feel free to email them to me directly.
Thanks again..
--Regards,MichaelT http://www.michaeltapes.com
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