Here's what Sigma REALLY needs to do about its next DSLR

... engage brain before engaging mouth
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The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject and mastery of his process. -Edward Weston

Hi Cepha,
nice to meet you here ;-)

Cephalotus said:

Claire Dupuis said:

What do you think ? Is is technically possible ? How well do you
think it would improve Sigma's market share ?

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I think that Sigma is more interested in selling their lenses than
in selling their bodies...

They have the monopoly for lenses on their SA mount cameras

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I think you're perfectly right. Sigma isn't very interested in improving it's market share with bodies. (If they were, they would have improved some issues -- for instance the flash metering.)

It's not by accident that their lens mount and electrics are quite similar to Canon's (you can easily convert them to each other).

I regard the SDs as a kind of technology study to Sigma itself. They need a system of their own to study and improve the interaction between lenses, flashes and bodies.

And their system is somewaht of a playground. If they will ever change their sensor supplier, they will probably not use a Sony imager like some other vendors. They will look for somewhat more demanding, technolgy wise more sophisticated -- a SuperCCD-Design for instance (just brainstorming -- the S3Pro is in my eyes the most interesting beast after a SD).

So I predict (as if there aren't enough predictions ;-) ) they will not drop their system, but release every now and then a new camera that is interesting both for their devellopers and for some quirky customers ... ;-)
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Eberhard
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W/o being to purchase a physical product, whatever they do really does not make a differences because you cannot buy it.

Be it 5, 7 or 20 mp X3 none of that will not matter sitting in the R&D labs.

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jc

... for the superior image quality in the Sd* cameras. If you think Sony is good - get one.

Me ? - I shall stick like glue to my SD9, which I still think produces images superior to all Bayer sensored ones. It's a question of sheer image quality.
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Zone8

The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject and mastery of his process. -Edward Weston

ej64 said:

Cephalotus said:

Claire Dupuis said:

What do you think ? Is is technically possible ? How well do you
think it would improve Sigma's market share ?

Click to expand...

I think that Sigma is more interested in selling their lenses than
in selling their bodies...

They have the monopoly for lenses on their SA mount cameras

Click to expand...

I think you're perfectly right. Sigma isn't very interested in
improving it's market share with bodies. (If they were, they would
have improved some issues -- for instance the flash metering.)
It's not by accident that their lens mount and electrics are quite
similar to Canon's (you can easily convert them to each other).
I regard the SDs as a kind of technology study to Sigma itself.
They need a system of their own to study and improve the
interaction between lenses, flashes and bodies.
And their system is somewaht of a playground. If they will ever
change their sensor supplier, they will probably not use a Sony
imager like some other vendors. They will look for somewhat more
demanding, technolgy wise more sophisticated -- a SuperCCD-Design
for instance (just brainstorming -- the S3Pro is in my eyes the
most interesting beast after a SD).

Click to expand...

There is no technology more advanced than the Foveon X3 sensor...Its literally the state of the art!...So much better than Fuji's super CCD (Bayer) design that Fuji are trying their best to make their own three layer sensor...Different materials though (so they can get around the Foveon patent) and its still early days but I'd say it may have real potential.

Regards

DSG

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DaSigmaGuy said:

ej64 said:

Cephalotus said:

Claire Dupuis said:

What do you think ? Is is technically possible ? How well do you
think it would improve Sigma's market share ?

Click to expand...

I think that Sigma is more interested in selling their lenses than
in selling their bodies...

They have the monopoly for lenses on their SA mount cameras

Click to expand...

I think you're perfectly right. Sigma isn't very interested in
improving it's market share with bodies. (If they were, they would
have improved some issues -- for instance the flash metering.)
It's not by accident that their lens mount and electrics are quite
similar to Canon's (you can easily convert them to each other).
I regard the SDs as a kind of technology study to Sigma itself.
They need a system of their own to study and improve the
interaction between lenses, flashes and bodies.
And their system is somewaht of a playground. If they will ever
change their sensor supplier, they will probably not use a Sony
imager like some other vendors. They will look for somewhat more
demanding, technolgy wise more sophisticated -- a SuperCCD-Design
for instance (just brainstorming -- the S3Pro is in my eyes the
most interesting beast after a SD).

Click to expand...

There is no technology more advanced than the Foveon X3
sensor...Its literally the state of the art!...So much better than
Fuji's super CCD (Bayer) design that Fuji are trying their best to
make their own three layer sensor...Different materials though (so
they can get around the Foveon patent) and its still early days
but I'd say it may have real potential.

Regards

DSG

--
http://sigmasd10.fotopic.net/

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hmm your the 2nd person that I've seen that said something about Fuji. That would be interesting to see their version of the 3 layer sensor. Maybe Photokina?

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Hi,

Zone8 said:

... for the superior image quality in the Sd* cameras. If you
think Sony is good - get one.

Me ? - I shall stick like glue to my SD9, which I still think
produces images superior to all Bayer sensored ones. It's a
question of sheer image quality.
--
Zone8
The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an
important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless
one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject
and mastery of his process. -Edward Weston

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Maybe my english is too bad or yours is ... I said:

If they will ever change their sensor supplier, they will probably NOT use a Sony imager like some other vendors.

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and further:

Zone8 said:

the S3Pro is in my eyes the most interesting beast AFTER a SD

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(... with a foveon implicated)

BTW: Probably I will stick to my SD9 until I find a cheap SD10 or I can afford the upcoming new SD (for I am "quirky" too ;-) )
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best regards
Eberhard
my site: http://www.ej64.de -- galleries, blog (german) and other stuff

LMC54 said:

LMC54 said:

sensor...Its literally the state of the art!...So much better than
Fuji's super CCD (Bayer) design that Fuji are trying their best to
make their own three layer sensor...Different materials though (so
they can get around the Foveon patent) and its still early days
but I'd say it may have real potential.

Regards

DSG

--
http://sigmasd10.fotopic.net/

Click to expand...

hmm your the 2nd person that I've seen that said something about
Fuji. That would be interesting to see their version of the 3 layer
sensor. Maybe Photokina?

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Yeah... maybe Photokina 2014... or something

The Fuji -project is just some thought-experiment...involving biological molecules to somehow emulate the photosyntezis of the plants.... interesting science... but IMO it will never be used to anything practical.

LMC54 said:

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http://www.pbase.com/yoicz

Misunderstaood - we do agree in fact.

best wishes!
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Zone8

The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject and mastery of his process. -Edward Weston