Retouching for Weight

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I did a shoot for a local woman directing a play in community theatre. She's a rather large, heavy woman and was very concerned about it...wanted me to do everything I could within reason to help diminish the weight in the photo. Here's the finished image and the original, straight out of the camera image:



Too much? I know some are deadset against this sort of thing, although I'm of a mind we are creating images at the behest of our sponsors and should try to fulfill their wishes. The shot is for the Playbill of the theatrical production she will be directing.

BooRadley
 
This is what I would consider a really good job of this type of thing! If I were to tweak it, I think perhaps I'd shorten the height of her face just a tiny tad for a more similar look to the original without widening it.
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KathyN
 
If it's for the playbill, then the people in that community know her. I think just a head and shoulders crop with no weight manipulation would work just fine. Most of the bulk is hidden from view anyway. gc
 
The approach you've taken definitely makes her look slimmer, but it distorts the shape of her head and her features in the process. And the rotation gives her a sad, embarrassed look..
How about just reducing the size of her body, leaving her head intact, and then using light to direct attention to her proud gaze? Here's my try.



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I don't know Glenn...something about the eyes doesn't look right!
 
Very nice black and white! I agree with Kathy though, I would shorten the height just a little bit.

Here is my try, I've stretched it by about 5%, then added some shape using PWL. I used the same trick like you and tugged in the arm/shirt on the left hand side a little bit.

Looking at it again now, I think the shadow to bring the jaw line out changed the face a bit too much, doesn't look like her anymore. Oh well...I tried ;)



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I did a shoot for a local woman directing a play in community
theatre. She's a rather large, heavy woman and was very concerned
about it...wanted me to do everything I could within reason to help
diminish the weight in the photo.
I know some are deadset against this sort of thing,
although I'm of a mind we are creating images at the behest of our
sponsors and should try to fulfill their wishes. The shot is for
the Playbill of the theatrical production she will be directing.

BooRadley
If she wants it done, then I don't have any problem with it. But I would not use the method you used -- squeezing the image horizontally -- becasue it alters basic facial features. Think of the eyes, nose, and mouth as a fixed triangle that shouldn't be altered.

Her weight shows mainly in two areas, the lower jaw and neck, and the width of her body at the bottom of the frame. So I concentrated on these, using the liquify tool to "tuck in" her jaw line. I painted and cloned on separate layers to remove creases in the neck and remove the large shadow below the line of her jaw.

Keep this in mind: Fat shows in one of two ways. Along the edge of neck or cheek, it shows in the shape of the outline of that part. Fat bulges the line out, so you push it back in with the distort tool (or by simply painting with the dark brown below her right ear (our left). Inside that outline, fat is shown by light and shadow. A bulge catches the light on top and throws a shadow underneath. When you reduce the shadow under the jawline, you create the illusion that there's nothing above it to cast a shadow. If that helps any ...

For the bottom of the image, I selected the right shoulder (our right) copied it to a new layer, and used the transform > distort tool to narrow it at the bottom. Then pasted a piece of background over that, masked it out, and painted back in to reveal the new shoulder line. Same for the other side, to narrow that a little.

Finally, I lassoed her hair from the top of the bangs up, and around the whole right side. Copied that to a new layer and used transform > distort to flatten the top of the hair a little and make it "bigger" on the right (our right). That makes her face seem a little smaller, I think. It would probably also help to do that on the other side (our left), to make that a little fuller and rounder.



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~ Peano
 
I like your approach a lot! I'll have to study it a bit more, but I'm liking your approach much more than mine! Thanks for the effort.
 
Used the magnetic lasso tool/transform/warp on the hair and part of the face (crtl+H to hide). Did two more edits on the body.


I did a shoot for a local woman directing a play in community
theatre. She's a rather large, heavy woman and was very concerned
about it...wanted me to do everything I could within reason to help
diminish the weight in the photo. Here's the finished image and
the original, straight out of the camera image:



Too much? I know some are deadset against this sort of thing,
although I'm of a mind we are creating images at the behest of our
sponsors and should try to fulfill their wishes. The shot is for
the Playbill of the theatrical production she will be directing.

BooRadley
 
I did a shoot for a local woman directing a play in community
theatre. She's a rather large, heavy woman and was very concerned
about it...wanted me to do everything I could within reason to help
diminish the weight in the photo.
I know some are deadset against this sort of thing,
although I'm of a mind we are creating images at the behest of our
sponsors and should try to fulfill their wishes. The shot is for
the Playbill of the theatrical production she will be directing.

BooRadley
If she wants it done, then I don't have any problem with it. But I
would not use the method you used -- squeezing the image
horizontally -- becasue it alters basic facial features. Think of
the eyes, nose, and mouth as a fixed triangle that shouldn't be
altered.

Her weight shows mainly in two areas, the lower jaw and neck, and
the width of her body at the bottom of the frame. So I concentrated
on these, using the liquify tool to "tuck in" her jaw line. I
painted and cloned on separate layers to remove creases in the neck
and remove the large shadow below the line of her jaw.

Keep this in mind: Fat shows in one of two ways. Along the edge of
neck or cheek, it shows in the shape of the outline of that part.
Fat bulges the line out, so you push it back in with the distort
tool (or by simply painting with the dark brown below her right ear
(our left). Inside that outline, fat is shown by light and shadow.
A bulge catches the light on top and throws a shadow underneath.
When you reduce the shadow under the jawline, you create the
illusion that there's nothing above it to cast a shadow. If that
helps any ...

For the bottom of the image, I selected the right shoulder (our
right) copied it to a new layer, and used the transform > distort
tool to narrow it at the bottom. Then pasted a piece of background
over that, masked it out, and painted back in to reveal the new
shoulder line. Same for the other side, to narrow that a little.

Finally, I lassoed her hair from the top of the bangs up, and
around the whole right side. Copied that to a new layer and used
transform > distort to flatten the top of the hair a little and
make it "bigger" on the right (our right). That makes her face seem
a little smaller, I think. It would probably also help to do that
on the other side (our left), to make that a little fuller and
rounder.



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~ Peano
 
I'd like to add my 2 cents worth but as this is my first time I don't know how to post an image, nor do I have a web site.

Sorry to bother you all but can anyone tell me how I might post my attempt?

FrankyM
 
Imageshack. It's free and usually works fine. After you upload to imageshack, it will display a list of links (thumbnail links and hotlinks for forums, websites, etc.). Use the "Direct link" at the bottom of the list. Just paste that into your DPR posting and click preview. The image should be embedded in your posting.
http://www.imageshack.us/

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~ Peano
 
Below her left ear, the neck appears to have a bulge in back. Just painting in a shadow instantly makes her neck appear slimmer.



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~ Peano
 
Not anywhere near Congaragata, Peano, Uncle Frank, Springer and the Big Experts; but here's a try-
Sal

 


Used liquify to reduce neck and lower face of left side (of image). Cloned hair from right side to cover her left cheek and so reducing face without altering proportion. Raised her left eye because it's drooping. Get rid of bags under eyes and folds of fat in neck. Crop image as her body looks very large. Alter lighting to concentrate on her face whilst shading neck.

Sorry I did this in a bit of a rush so it could be done a lot better with more care.

FrankyM

PS Thanks again PEANO for your help!
 

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