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August: the Canon vs Nikon war will heat up
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Art Attax
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This guy needs to start working for Canon, Japan to translate their manuals. Granted the 20D manual is better than my AE-1 Program: "with easy handling of the finger", it still has errors and understandability problems. Chez is an American working as an English teacher in Japan. He is qualified to make much better interpretations of what is being said. I am not saying he is perfect, just better qualified than most as he understands how Japanese is translated to English and what can be left out, assumed, inferred, etc.
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Douglas Brown
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That's what I'm looking for too. And I think this body makes more sense than some of the others that people have been talking about.
Douglas Brown
Leading Member
Count me in!
I disagree, I am much happier with Canon's ergo. Why? b/c I'm used to it and have grown up i nthe DSLR world with it. I have handled Nikon offerings, and it feels alien to me.
It all comes down to what you are used to. Truth be told, I prefer the "fake cheese" on my nachos than real cheese, why? because im used to it
It all comes down to what you are used to. Truth be told, I prefer the "fake cheese" on my nachos than real cheese, why? because im used to it
Wow, you actually think Nikon bodies are LESS cluttered than Canon bodies? I think it's the opposite. Nikon bodies are a cacophony of numerous external buttons, switches, and dials of varying size and shape spread out in various places throughout the body-- even on the front of the body. And the "lines" of Nikons are typically also a mish-mash of shapes. In comparison, a Canon body like the 5D is very uncluttered with much cleaner lines. For example, view the Canon 5D design video in Canon's Design Room:
http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/design/design_room/f_index.html
Of course, ergonomics are a matter of taste, but I certainly would not say that Canon bodies are more "cluttered" and their lines less "amazing" than Nikon bodies. And by the way, from the looks of the Nikon teaser promo, it looks like Nikon is taking on more Canon-like lines.
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David Martin
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It's ludicrous to treat a fairly light-hearted reply as an insult.
If this is not the article you were thinking of, then you will be unsuccessful anyway in any search - lots of people here have made the same sort of assertation as you have, that Canon have said that they are dropping 1.3, and no-one has come up with any reference.
The reason is simple - it is because it does not exist.
You can vbery simply do a search on 1.3 on this site, and you will nowhere find a link - if ther4e had in fact been any such interview or statement, it would have been linked umpteen times.
What you do is up to you, but personally if I unable to back up what I am saying I withdraw.
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DaveMart
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If this is not the article you were thinking of, then you will be unsuccessful anyway in any search - lots of people here have made the same sort of assertation as you have, that Canon have said that they are dropping 1.3, and no-one has come up with any reference.
The reason is simple - it is because it does not exist.
You can vbery simply do a search on 1.3 on this site, and you will nowhere find a link - if ther4e had in fact been any such interview or statement, it would have been linked umpteen times.
What you do is up to you, but personally if I unable to back up what I am saying I withdraw.
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DaveMart
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David Martin
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I have no idea whether Canon will bring out another 1.3 or not.
They have indicated however that they don't find the difficulty some suggest in running threee sensor sizes - presumably a lot of those commenting on what a bad idea this is would not have expected Canon to bring out a 1.3 in the first place.
They have also stated that it is difficult at present levels of technology to put more pixels in without making noise too high at higher ISOs, so possibly they will feel that a 1.3 may be 'appropriate' to deal with this issue in some camera.
I do not know.
My sole purpose in respoinding was to clarify that Canon have certainly not said they were discontinuing the 1.3, and have left their options open to make another, contrary to some of the satements some have made here.
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DaveMart
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They have indicated however that they don't find the difficulty some suggest in running threee sensor sizes - presumably a lot of those commenting on what a bad idea this is would not have expected Canon to bring out a 1.3 in the first place.
They have also stated that it is difficult at present levels of technology to put more pixels in without making noise too high at higher ISOs, so possibly they will feel that a 1.3 may be 'appropriate' to deal with this issue in some camera.
I do not know.
My sole purpose in respoinding was to clarify that Canon have certainly not said they were discontinuing the 1.3, and have left their options open to make another, contrary to some of the satements some have made here.
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DaveMart
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Slayer9292
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http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/Canon_1DS_MkIII.html
One exec said that the xD 24x36mm 8fps camera would be the 'next generation' and would cost $5000. That same exec strongly implied that the 1.3 sensor was a stopgap measure until they could develop the high-speed full frame camera."
There it is...1.3 crop sensor is a "band aid" until they can produce what they really want.
One exec said that the xD 24x36mm 8fps camera would be the 'next generation' and would cost $5000. That same exec strongly implied that the 1.3 sensor was a stopgap measure until they could develop the high-speed full frame camera."
There it is...1.3 crop sensor is a "band aid" until they can produce what they really want.
1.3x is the appropriate choice when you consider that they have a HUGE pool of existing 1.3x users in the pj/sports photography market, thanks the the ubiquitous use of the enormously popular Canon 1D, 1D MKII, 1D MKII N bodies in these markets. Will all these users be happy being forced to migrate to FF, or to 1.6x? Maybe some will, but many won't. And I don't think it's a problem for Canon to be running three sensor formats. They've been doing it for years, and since they control all their sensor manufacturing, they can freely choose whatever format they want-- including all three, as they've been doing for years. Some how, some way, they will work to maintain some level of continuity for their large population of 1.3x users-- especially in the highly visible sports/pj market.
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