You're supposed to pay it after the fact. Nobody does, as far as I know (maybe businesses do?)
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Canon/Nikon's new dSLR pricing
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TimBrandt
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how are you supposed to pay it afterwards? I'm from Europe, and are going to LA in a month (for a month) and has thought about buying a camera there. But I don't want to do anything illigal.
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Wonder how many people actually do so?
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be the replacement of the 1Ds-MkII, 2 yrs from the launch and MkI was around for 2 years too. It will show us where the dSLR range is eventually targeting, will it be over 20 MP and low noise or will it have only better DR and less noise and more speed and other image quality enchancements and still about same resolution (17-18 MP = would be about the same, > 20 MP somewhat more and 24 MP a huge improvement).
Osku
You can also order from Germany with 16% local VAT and still have a Nikon Europe 2 yr warranty (D200 is now there around 1450 EUR with the local VAT).We have 25% VAT i Denmark, plus it usually takes some time for a
new camera to get here. But i'm going to LA in mid august
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BobTrips
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Paying state sales tax on items bought from an out of state supplier and shipped into the state is a law that doesn't seem to be enforced and with which the compliance rate seems to approach zero.
If you use a site such as PriceGrabber (www.pricegrabber.com) you can put in your zip code and tax will be calculated for your state of residence and if the merchant has a same-state presence.
I'm in California so I have to pay sales tax if I order from NewEgg. If I order from B&H in New York, I don't.
I don't even know if CA has passed an internet sales tax bill as have some states. If they have then I would imagine that there is some provision to declare those purchases when filling out the state income tax forms. (Don't remember seeing anything there the last time I did my taxes.)
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TimBrandt
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Hi Bob. Thanks for the answer.
Now that i'm from Europe, and just there visiting, do you have any idea as to what possibilities that I have when i'm there? I'm going to stay at a hostel for about 4 weeks, so i'm going to have an adress there that I can get things send to.
Thanks, Tim
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BobTrips
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I'm not sure but I think some companies won't ship to hotel addresses.
You might do some pre-trip checking. Try sending B&H an email inquiry. It could be that they might if you pre-arrange.
(Seems like they should have some provision for traveling pros who need replacement equipment in a hurry.)
You might have to add the hostel address to your charge card account?
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In terms of price (not necessarily features), Nikon has a 2 camera gap between the D70s and the D200.
My prediction is that one camera gets announced now and the other at Photokina -- a D80 and a D90. The D80 will be $999 US and the D90 will be $1299 (without lenses).
That's assuming this camera is to fill that gap and not to be an even lower model than the D50.
(Of course, Nikon will probably fool me and do something completely unexpected.)
One other coincidence (or not?): The same day Nikon will announce this camera, Niikon will announce their new desktops, the last of the Apple's computers to move to Intel processors.
My prediction is that one camera gets announced now and the other at Photokina -- a D80 and a D90. The D80 will be $999 US and the D90 will be $1299 (without lenses).
That's assuming this camera is to fill that gap and not to be an even lower model than the D50.
(Of course, Nikon will probably fool me and do something completely unexpected.)
One other coincidence (or not?): The same day Nikon will announce this camera, Niikon will announce their new desktops, the last of the Apple's computers to move to Intel processors.
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BobTrips
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Happened to have B&H open in another tab. Here's what they say about shipping.
"US Customers: B&H Photo will ship to your home, your place of business, or another residence address.
International Customers: shipments will be made to your home, or to a USA residence address.
We cannot ship to any of these locations: hotels, motels and resorts."
Do you have a contact in LA whose address you might use? If so, contact your credit card company ahead of time and add that list to your account.
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"US Customers: B&H Photo will ship to your home, your place of business, or another residence address.
International Customers: shipments will be made to your home, or to a USA residence address.
We cannot ship to any of these locations: hotels, motels and resorts."
Do you have a contact in LA whose address you might use? If so, contact your credit card company ahead of time and add that list to your account.
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As fast as DSLR Prices are dropping, it wouldn't surprise me to see them start giving them away in the not too distant future (with some catches of course).
Nikon Dxxx -- Free with purchase of [insert expensive VR lenses here].
Canon EOS-Dxxx - Free with purchase of [insert expensive IS Lenses here]
Of course, with Sony:
Sony DSLR-A100 -- $899 -- then have "Super Steady Shot" (renamed and improved Anti-shake) with any lenses you buy for it (with 16 Million compatible Minolta lenses already in the market).
Sony wants to capture more than 25% of the DSLR market over the next few years.
The price wars are going to get interesting for sure.
Personally, I'd vote for an end to the megapixel race though (at least until they can increase the pixel count without increasing noise or losing detail to in camera noise reduction).
I think Canon had the right idea with the EOS-30D (cap it at 8MP for now in an APS-C size sensor). But, more megapixels sells cameras. So, the war goes on.
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Nikon Dxxx -- Free with purchase of [insert expensive VR lenses here].
Canon EOS-Dxxx - Free with purchase of [insert expensive IS Lenses here]
Of course, with Sony:
Sony DSLR-A100 -- $899 -- then have "Super Steady Shot" (renamed and improved Anti-shake) with any lenses you buy for it (with 16 Million compatible Minolta lenses already in the market).
Sony wants to capture more than 25% of the DSLR market over the next few years.
The price wars are going to get interesting for sure.
Personally, I'd vote for an end to the megapixel race though (at least until they can increase the pixel count without increasing noise or losing detail to in camera noise reduction).
I think Canon had the right idea with the EOS-30D (cap it at 8MP for now in an APS-C size sensor). But, more megapixels sells cameras. So, the war goes on.
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TimBrandt
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But the difference isn't worth it I think. In The US the camera before taxes are cheaper than Europe, that's why the savings are, imo, worth it. I have to check up on the warranty though.
TimBrandt
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Else I have some relatives in CA who i'm going to see while i'm over there, so it's possible to do it through them. I just don't want them to suddenly get a bill for unpaid taxes on my account.
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Ed Leys20479
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Bob,
You need to pay a bit better attention.
California has a "use tax", which is essentially "sales tax" for those items you didn't pay sales tax for since they were purchased from out of state--doesn't matter if it was an "internet purchase" or not. The fun thing is that a few years back a line for it was moved to the various state 540 forms that get signed as correct on pain of perjury.
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Me and about 36,132,147 other citizens of the great state of California.
;o)
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The real interesting question, considering that interview - is when some of those things are actually gonna hit the market from Canon.
The most interesting one is the Canon intention to replace the OVF with a super EVF. For one thing it will be fun to read the screams and gnashing among the faithful at such an idea. According to CW the objective is basically a smaller, lighter, simpler camera. Since he postulates overlays like real-time histograms and focus-checking enlargemnt, one must wonder if some form of live viewing is intended.
I can just visualize a Canon quality sensor about 4/3 size, with a tiny body, EVF, and line of miniaturized INTERCHANGEABLE lenses on this, with a live LCD. Once can see a "BRIDGE" camera with many of the features of the longzoom digicam but with new small interchangeable lenses. - A bridge camera from the OTHER end - the dslr end. For one thing this would destroy the longzoom market; for another CANON would own this niche - which is the one Panasonic should have created long ago.
Of course only a firm who can build its own sensors can do this.
If Canon does take this route - so strongly suggested by the Chuck Westfall interview, Sony, Pany and Oly are gonna be hung out to dry. Nikon will be OK but only because they have a fanboy club just as Harley-Davidson does - people who wouldn't buy anything else - ever.
It sounds more and more like Konica-Minolta cut their losses at exactly the right time.
All the people who will be bananas if Canon's EVF does replace the OvF should remember super EVFs have been available since the KM A2 - it had a WAY better EVF than any other - abandoned to make a cheaper camera.
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The most interesting one is the Canon intention to replace the OVF with a super EVF. For one thing it will be fun to read the screams and gnashing among the faithful at such an idea. According to CW the objective is basically a smaller, lighter, simpler camera. Since he postulates overlays like real-time histograms and focus-checking enlargemnt, one must wonder if some form of live viewing is intended.
I can just visualize a Canon quality sensor about 4/3 size, with a tiny body, EVF, and line of miniaturized INTERCHANGEABLE lenses on this, with a live LCD. Once can see a "BRIDGE" camera with many of the features of the longzoom digicam but with new small interchangeable lenses. - A bridge camera from the OTHER end - the dslr end. For one thing this would destroy the longzoom market; for another CANON would own this niche - which is the one Panasonic should have created long ago.
Of course only a firm who can build its own sensors can do this.
If Canon does take this route - so strongly suggested by the Chuck Westfall interview, Sony, Pany and Oly are gonna be hung out to dry. Nikon will be OK but only because they have a fanboy club just as Harley-Davidson does - people who wouldn't buy anything else - ever.
It sounds more and more like Konica-Minolta cut their losses at exactly the right time.
All the people who will be bananas if Canon's EVF does replace the OvF should remember super EVFs have been available since the KM A2 - it had a WAY better EVF than any other - abandoned to make a cheaper camera.
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Whomever introduces the first serious EVIL camera will probably continue marketing OVF cameras along side just as there are still a few film cameras available.
So don't leave Fuji out of the mix. Fuji's sensor design might make an outstanding "quarter frame" half-APS sensor.
We haven't heard about the Fuji Super CCD and dynamic range. If that's somewhat better than other small sensors then the only downside of quarter frame sensors would be a lack of shallow DOF. And that might be fixable by the production of a very wide aperture lens for those who desire that function.
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hollis_f
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As a non-USian resident you don't have to pay their taxes.
However, you do have to pay your Danish taxes when you bring the camera back. So that's 20% you need to pay the customs people in Denmark.
Of course you can choose not to declare it. I'm not sure what sort of punishment that might entail if you get caught. In the UK the customs people have fearsome powers - so I wouldn't risk it.
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TimBrandt
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I think a lot of people don't declare it, and nobody asks. It might be a different case if the product needs to be repaired.
????????????? OK, so I'm naive.....how does THAT work???????
.......and a caveat for TimmyB - don't count your chickens before they hatch. Having assisted a visiting European purchasing equipment here, I can say FACTUALLY that some firms do NOT accept "foreign" credit cards. Make sure your source will BEFORE you attempt purchase (getting a cash advance on such a card can be VERY costly, otherwise).
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