I can't argue with logic like that....
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This week's CNET poll shows only 15% believe film is dead
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CharlieDIY
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Barry Fitzgerald
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Like I said, ask photographers if they still use b&w film...you will find a lot that do. The line isnt flat, its fallen, but still there. People report poor information....
I said "going" which implies it is heading in a direction, so that would be about the same as you are saying. I also think that film will never die. It just isn't going to be an 18 or even a 45 year old anytime soon. Doesn't mean it won't be around. People will keep it alive.
As for people reporting poor information I assume that you are talking about the big film and paper manufacturers like Kodak, Agfa, Fuji, Ilford and the like. Yeah, you are right. They are probably lying about their sales. I wish they wouldn't do that.
CharlieDIY
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This isn't a new trend, nor is it entirely due to digitization. Something like 18 years ago, the one shop doing b&w developing in the tiny town near me quit doing developing and contacts, so I had to set up my own b&w darkroom (about 98% of my work then was b&w). About five years ago, the only alternative (a 70 mile round trip away anyway), sold out to Ritz, which doesn't do b&w in any way, shape or form, AFAICT. Fortunately, about seven years ago, I started going digital. About six years ago, I sold off my darkroom gear and tore down the walls. I never did like the stink, anyway, and today, and even six years ago, most work has switched to color.
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Not dead...just ask the film companies and the camera manufacturers. Fil cameras and film sales are up...the future looks bright!
Now Mr. Gecko asks "When is something dead? If there is one film sale is it not dead?
The question is really too broad and subject to different interpretations.
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Now Mr. Gecko asks "When is something dead? If there is one film sale is it not dead?
The question is really too broad and subject to different interpretations.
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Personally, what I care about is which tool will allow me to obtain the best picture possible in most of the situations I will encounter. I don't much care whether it be digital, film or a paintbrush in my mouth with my hands tied behind my back.
The question here isn't which medium yanks at your heart strings, but which medium provides the best picture possible? For example if I want to take a low light pic, which will be less grainy? A canon drebelxt at iso 1600 or the best film can offer.
And before you say it, yeah the drebel made me do it.
The question here isn't which medium yanks at your heart strings, but which medium provides the best picture possible? For example if I want to take a low light pic, which will be less grainy? A canon drebelxt at iso 1600 or the best film can offer.
And before you say it, yeah the drebel made me do it.
Bill Force
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I live ina "third world country", in Medellin, Colombia S.A. Although a third world country, Medellin is a very modern city. We have three major photography chains in Colombia, all take in film and digital to be processed. In this regard, I AM THE WIERDO because instead of ordering prints from my 35 mm rolls, I have the film developed and high res scanned and placed on a cd. It costs me $2.50 for a cd with 4,000 dpi filesfrom a 36 ex. roll.
When I go to the store to leave off my film to be digitized, they take in ten times as many 35 mm rolls for prints than they do cards with digi files, at least while I'm there. South America tends to lag behind the U.S. and Europe by about 2 to 4 years in technology. Until we catch up, the film business is thriving.
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When I go to the store to leave off my film to be digitized, they take in ten times as many 35 mm rolls for prints than they do cards with digi files, at least while I'm there. South America tends to lag behind the U.S. and Europe by about 2 to 4 years in technology. Until we catch up, the film business is thriving.
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Interesting. Any idea why?
Since Japan and Singapore were such early players in technology digital photography, etc. has spread more rapidly through the SEA countries.
Could it be the lack of any major technology centers?
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The Pistons led the NBA, and lost in the playoffs.
The Red Wings led the NHL, and lost in the playoffs.
It's up to the Tigers now...
Leading the league, and going all the way!
Ciao!
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newsphotog
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Film will never be extinct; indtead it will merely fade into the darkness like prints that didn't stay in the fix long enough...
That being said however, I still shoot chrome when it's something really important.
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That being said however, I still shoot chrome when it's something really important.
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This is tourist season here in the Big Apple. Gotta' tell you.Was up at Times Square recently. Tons of people.
Most people I see are carrying p/s digital cameras. Occasionaly you will see
someone with a $3.99 Fuji or Kodak one time use camera. That's basically it.
Most people I see are carrying p/s digital cameras. Occasionaly you will see
someone with a $3.99 Fuji or Kodak one time use camera. That's basically it.
Bill Force
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Bob,
It's a simple matter of economics. Most of South America is economically deprived sans a wealthy few. Amazing just how poor most of the populace really is. Sad but a truism!
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' You don't have to have the best of everything to get the best out of what you do have'.
It's a simple matter of economics. Most of South America is economically deprived sans a wealthy few. Amazing just how poor most of the populace really is. Sad but a truism!
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' You don't have to have the best of everything to get the best out of what you do have'.
CharlieDIY
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Why? What the polls say is irrelevant, as is much of the anecdotal information on here. An accurate survey might tell use something useful, but in five years, the answer will be staring at us, without needing help from silly polls. I'm willing to wait and see.
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Charlie Self
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Camera manufactures, need to address there is a market for people who just wants simple point and shoot camera. like the once use, and send it back to get developed, but in (digital form). They don't need a monitor, just something quick and simple. Yes I do know people who wont go to digital because they find it too complex, and they wont spend there good money in digital, so the environment losses again in return.
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