Fuji's New S Series, Swiss Army Knife of digi cams?

All current Fuji's still use interpolation, it just not made available or only available in RAW.

I was under the impression that this resulted in a better per-pixel resolution than similar technologies with an ordinary pattern CCD. I think it is only valid for similar chip technologies. The F10 is several years\generations further down the line.
 
I do think it is true, it is the nature of the SCCD, there's no way you can get around it. There's really no gain for the people that make s7raw to put in an additional interpolation step.

The whole idea of the SCCD camera is that it's used at its "native" resolution, the 9MP of the S9500 for example. I think those that produce commercial packages have been in touch with Fuji. Perhaps there are some smart guys at Fuji after all that actually talked with the outside world. It was hard enough to explain to people how the Fuji SCCD technology worked and that it was not the same as the cheap ass cameras that use a 2MP sensor and are sold as 6MP cameras which were\are around too.

Having the abillity to process the rotapolated image yourself, has the following advantage: if ever there comes a radical new resizing algorithm, the resulting 9MP image will be better than the one you have today. That's about it I guess :)
 
But why would anyone need 12 Meg?
In the days of 1.2MP digicams, people were asking, "Why would anyone need more than 2 megapixels?" Three reasons will also be with us:

1. cropping
2. cropping
3. cropping

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Paul S. in Maryland
 
OH PLEASE, dont call him Henri, thats a quote in his signature line from the famous french photographer Bresson, calling him that will only overinflate his sense of self-importance.

This response of his was the first I have seen where he managed to say it was a personal preference, and that he found it more aesthetically pleasing. Usually its just a bunch of condescending drivel about how "real' photographers" have to have 12 megapixels and anyone shooting with less is merely a taking snapshots to send to Aunt Marge. Oh sure, he still has his usual condescending tone, but at least he couched his feelings as opinion.

I think its funny that when I go to a showing of photographic works, (I usually attend 4 or 5 a year) I have yet to see a single photographer working with an S7000, in fact I have only seen one that used a Fuji at all and that was an S2. Most are still working with film, but I am seeing more and more digital usually Canons for wildlife and sport and Nikon for models although those are not rules by any means. That gentleman that posts here a lot hpckry or whatever his name is, I'd go to a show of his and he works with an f10 or f11, I like his style and he can make that lil camera perform. It really is about the photographer and not the camera.
Oh well, Ted
Thanks Henri, that makes perfect sense. Had overlooked the aspect
of 'large' prints.
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But why would anyone need 12 Meg?
In the days of 1.2MP digicams, people were asking, "Why would
anyone need more than 2 megapixels?" Three reasons will also be
with us:

1. cropping
2. cropping
3. cropping

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Paul S. in Maryland
Absolutely true Paul. I take most pics with my S7000 in 12mp fine soft or in RAW, most pics end up needing to be cropped and I often print them at 8.5"x11".
Clyde
 
You're quite welcome Steve.

If you don't usually create large sized prints, one really wouldn’t take that into consideration which is understandable. Have you had the opportunity to experiment, with larger prints yourself yet? If you’d like any hints or advice feel free to contact me.

Warmest regards
-Henri

p.s. remember my friend there are no "dumb" questions, only those unasked.
Thanks Henri, that makes perfect sense. Had overlooked the aspect
of 'large' prints.
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Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again.
Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
Hi Clyde:

The S7000's ability to shoot at 12mp is amazing, I remember when it first debuted it was unheard of. Especially for a 800 camera...it can create absolutely astounding images.

I often do exactly as you with cropping. I'm not certain why our preference for 12mp's, seems to continuously elicit such irrational hostiliy from thsoe who have no need for that much camera.
But why would anyone need 12 Meg?
In the days of 1.2MP digicams, people were asking, "Why would
anyone need more than 2 megapixels?" Three reasons will also be
with us:

1. cropping
2. cropping
3. cropping

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Paul S. in Maryland
Absolutely true Paul. I take most pics with my S7000 in 12mp fine
soft or in RAW, most pics end up needing to be cropped and I often
print them at 8.5"x11".
Clyde
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Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again.
Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
"those people" are more likely to be more puristic: get closer to your subject\add more glass, with other words: reduce the need for cropping......
 
I'm sure I'm one of "those people" he is alluding too, I have been openly hostile with this gentlemen but not for anything to do with his choice of cameras, or the fact that cropping is a valuable part of photography. My issue with bearz has been his condescending tone (not as evident here as in the past) that anyone who is a serious artist must have 12 megapixels to print large images. Anything less than 12 megapixels is simply used for snapshots to email to Aunt Marge. At one point I though he was simply a clever troll just looking for attention, but I think now that he is simply a deluded soul so caught up in his sense of superiority and self importance that he can't help but drink the Fuji kool-aid.

He has never responded to queries of why is it all the galleries I visit are full of images created with 6 megapixel cameras. Well, most are film, but the digital work is almost always Nikon or Canon and I have yet to see an S7000 image displayed in a gallery. Not that its not out of the question, as we both know a person can create excellant images with that camera, but its certainly not necessary to the work. Bearz has also never commented on why is it that he continues to tout the magic of "12 n or f" from a camera with a 6 megapixel sensor and questionable resolution, read the review on this very site, Phil points out that the resolution is just not there. The S9000 has a ton more resolution as does the F10 or F11.

At least I am honest enough to say I just dont like the guy, dont know him personally, but his "personna" as displayed in this forum is one I just dont really care for. Rather than prance around misstating facts and pretending I'm an artist, I'd rather be honest and just say, the guy just annoys me.

Take care, Ted

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http://photobucket.com/albums/y260/tdkd13/
 
I'm sure I'm one of "those people" he is alluding too, I have been
openly hostile with this gentlemen but not for anything to do with
his choice of cameras, or the fact that cropping is a valuable part
of photography. My issue with bearz has been his condescending tone
(not as evident here as in the past) that anyone who is a serious
artist must have 12 megapixels to print large images. Anything less
than 12 megapixels is simply used for snapshots to email to Aunt
Marge. At one point I though he was simply a clever troll just
looking for attention, but I think now that he is simply a deluded
soul so caught up in his sense of superiority and self importance
that he can't help but drink the Fuji kool-aid.
He has never responded to queries of why is it all the galleries I
visit are full of images created with 6 megapixel cameras. Well,
most are film, but the digital work is almost always Nikon or Canon
and I have yet to see an S7000 image displayed in a gallery. Not
that its not out of the question, as we both know a person can
create excellant images with that camera, but its certainly not
necessary to the work. Bearz has also never commented on why is it
that he continues to tout the magic of "12 n or f" from a camera
with a 6 megapixel sensor and questionable resolution, read the
review on this very site, Phil points out that the resolution is
just not there. The S9000 has a ton more resolution as does the F10
or F11.
At least I am honest enough to say I just dont like the guy, dont
know him personally, but his "personna" as displayed in this forum
is one I just dont really care for. Rather than prance around
misstating facts and pretending I'm an artist, I'd rather be honest
and just say, the guy just annoys me.

Take care, Ted

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http://photobucket.com/albums/y260/tdkd13/
I see you’re still at it teddy trying to take the world by storm, or attempting to convince everyone there’s only one way & of course, that’d be your way.

Personally I don’t see a need to justify to you or anyone, my preferences in photographic equipment... nor berate or instigate a conflict with those who have preferences different than my own.

There are obviously those who can’t understand, how anyone could ever blow their noses differently than they do. I invite anyone to click on your user name & browse your reply history, that’ll give insight into your continued antagonism of goodwill out here at dp.

You admittedly dislike me, that’s fine...I’ve yet to form an opinion about you, even now...simply because I never felt you were worth responding to. However you just can’t stay away from that which you dislike can you? What’s that say about someone? Do your thing teddy & work on your pictures....stop worrying about the photographic preferences of others.

Your friend
-Henri

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Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again.
Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
Very sweet reply bearzie, you do have a point or two, yet have, as always, failed to answer any questions posed.

No problem, you dont owe me anything thats for sure, its obvious you struggle with the technical aspects of digital photography, lets hope you make up for it with the artistic aspects as they are really the hard part.

God knows you have carved out a great niche for yourself there sport, not many people taking upskirt shots of barbie dolls in furry outfits and then printing them at 26" x 30", I bet you sell tons of that stuff.
http://www.bearzimages.com/dollfie/index.htm

DSCF1075.jpg, DSCF1132.jpg, and DSCF0848.jpg are exceptional works of soft core doll porn, your mother must be so proud. And I can see the need for 12 MP, its tough to get close to a lifeless hunk of plastic without startling it so you need to be able to crop heavily.

In all seriousness though, of the living model work I have seen of yours, I do like the angles you choose to shoot from, they are dramatic and show better than average artistic style, I'm just not into the whole "furry" scene, not that there is anything wrong with it.

I'll admit I have been overly harsh in some of my comments to you, I just loathe condescension, I guess its not important that we like each other, but we both have every right to be as vocal as we care to be, about whatever we feel we want to be vocal about. It makes no difference what tools we choose to work with, but in a forum where people come for information, it should be accurate, and when its not, it should be corrected by other forum members.

In greatest admiration, Ted
XOXO

:)
 
Very sweet reply bearzie, you do have a point or two, yet have, as
always, failed to answer any questions posed.
No problem, you dont owe me anything thats for sure, its obvious
you struggle with the technical aspects of digital photography,
lets hope you make up for it with the artistic aspects as they are
really the hard part.
God knows you have carved out a great niche for yourself there
sport, not many people taking upskirt shots of barbie dolls in
furry outfits and then printing them at 26" x 30", I bet you sell
tons of that stuff.
http://www.bearzimages.com/dollfie/index.htm

DSCF1075.jpg, DSCF1132.jpg, and DSCF0848.jpg are exceptional works
of soft core doll porn, your mother must be so proud. And I can see
the need for 12 MP, its tough to get close to a lifeless hunk of
plastic without startling it so you need to be able to crop heavily.

In all seriousness though, of the living model work I have seen of
yours, I do like the angles you choose to shoot from, they are
dramatic and show better than average artistic style, I'm just not
into the whole "furry" scene, not that there is anything wrong with
it.

I'll admit I have been overly harsh in some of my comments to you,
I just loathe condescension, I guess its not important that we like
each other, but we both have every right to be as vocal as we care
to be, about whatever we feel we want to be vocal about. It makes
no difference what tools we choose to work with, but in a forum
where people come for information, it should be accurate, and when
its not, it should be corrected by other forum members.

In greatest admiration, Ted
XOXO

:)

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It’s obvious your jealously & lack of talent are manifest in hostile personal attacks. Once again you sling baseless accusations here in your replies, in some pathetic need to always be right.. while forcing your opinions & fears onto others. I too browsed your photographs & while they don’t all appeal to me, I didn’t once feel the need to insult you nor your photography.

However I won’t sit idly by while you insult me & my work with outrageous slanderous & libelous accusations. If you even remotely believe there’s anything pornographic about Japanese doll fashions, you’re greatly mistaken!

Why are you so obsessed with someone whom you admittedly dislike??? Does it make you feel better to continuously insult & criticize others, you’re obviously attempting to compensate for something...?

-Henri

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Photographers deal in things which are continually vanishing and when they have vanished there is no contrivance on earth which can make them come back again.
Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
It’s obvious your jealously & lack of talent are manifest in
hostile personal attacks. Once again you sling baseless
accusations here in your replies, in some pathetic need to always
be right.. while forcing your opinions & fears onto others. I too
browsed your photographs & while they don’t all appeal to me, I
didn’t once feel the need to insult you nor your photography.

However I won’t sit idly by while you insult me & my work with
outrageous slanderous & libelous accusations. If you even remotely
believe there’s anything pornographic about Japanese doll fashions,
you’re greatly mistaken!

Why are you so obsessed with someone whom you admittedly dislike???
Does it make you feel better to continuously insult & criticize
others, you’re obviously attempting to compensate for something...?
Oh come on Bearz I think your kidding yourself. I have nothing against you at all but some of those images are a bit on the alternative side. I'm not judging anyones life values or saying they are in bad taste but can you serious tell me that all of those images are an attempt to best show the doll or costumes? If it was a real person how would it be considered glamour/porn/fetish?

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David
 

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