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This week's CNET poll shows only 15% believe film is dead

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insectman said:
Your comments are great....there aint no way... given the
cost.....and hassle and expenses of transferring a
digitally-captured image to print.... that digital photography will
ever rival the convenience of using a point-and-shoot film
camera.... and handing in your roll of film .. and within an hour
or so ... getting a set of prints that are perfectly acceptable to
the photographer.
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Are you:

a) a troll?
b) non-observant?
c) completely out of touch?

If you are at all observant and not totally out of touch then you must be aware of the photo kiosks that are appearing in, oh, so many places these days.

Stick in your memory card. Pick the shots you want printed. Come back a little while later and pick up your prints.

They've even got them in England. I checked a month or so ago.

I didn't check the price, but here the cost of digital and film prints are the same. And when you stick your card in the kiosk you have the option of not printing the shots you don't want.

You know, the one where you had your thumb in front of the lens....

(That saves you money. Just in case you didn't connect the dots.)

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insectman said:
"I'm guessing (and this is totally only a guess) that in five to
ten years on-site film developing will become difficult to find.
It'll have to be sent in as we used to do in the old days!."

Nope! There are many tens of millions of easy-to-use compact film
cameras out there... and more importantly their owners only want to
take pictures and get a decent set of prints back ... in other
words they aint interested in digital photography.
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I'm sure there tens of millions of easy-to-use compact film cameras out there. There are also millions and millions of fSLRs.

Go to any event and see what people are shooting. It ain't film. Those cameras are home in the closet.

(Perhaps I should rule events such as the Annual Festival of Film Devotees. ;o)

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J_W_D said:
Joseph S. Wisniewski said:
That's part of the reason why he's been banned at least twice.
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Joe,

I don't think ignorance is a cause for banning.
It must have been something else.
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Well, one time, he got into a heated discussion with Phil, and told Phil to F off, several times.

Now, that's probably more along the lines of "stupidity" than "ignorance"....

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Well a world without 35mm film would cut down my options for photography and getting prints. I for one don't like haveing less options. The last birthday party I shoot I used 3 rolls of 24 exp. color film. I paid @ $20 for 3 sets of doubles and my wife just sent of one set to the birthday girl, enough for a whole album. Their was one other guy shooting film other than me. The rest of the guests were doing digital snapshots. I really doubt that any of them had the shots printed. Maybe a print or two from a home system. But probably not over the 70 + prints I got using my film SLR.
 
insectman said:
Your comments are great....there aint no way... given the
cost.....and hassle and expenses of transferring a
digitally-captured image to print.... that digital photography will
ever rival the convenience of using a point-and-shoot film
camera.... and handing in your roll of film .. and within an hour
or so ... getting a set of prints that are perfectly acceptable to
the photographer.
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Let's see now. You can walk into Jessops (or it's equivalent on the other side of the pond), hand the clerk 8 film canisters, wait an hour and pick up a stack of prints.

Or you can hand that same clerk a CF card, come back in an hour and pick up that stack of prints.

So, the only "hassle" I can see is on the film side, where you had to keep track of more cans, be more careful with them, wait longer for them to be written up because there's more of them...

Oh yeah, and the hassle of having to spray some insecticide, because insects eat film.

--
The Pistons led the NBA, and lost in the playoffs.
The Red Wings led the NHL, and lost in the playoffs.

It's up to the Tigers now...
Leading the league, and going all the way!

Ciao!

Joe

http://www.swissarmyfork.com
 
these internet polls don't mean anything because it is not a representative sample. It's not scientific and reflects the opinions of only those internet users who have chosen to participate. The results CANNOT be assumed to represent the opinions of internet users in general, not the public as a whole.

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The Pistons led the NBA, and lost in the playoffs.
The Red Wings led the NHL, and lost in the playoffs.

It's up to the Tigers now...
Leading the league, and going all the way!

Ciao!

Joe

http://www.swissarmyfork.com
 
"Well, one time, he got into a heated discussion with Phil, and told Phil to F off, several times".

Did I do it? .. If so ban me.

Cheers.
 
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"CNET polls imply that the participants are both computer literate and internet savy. But it doesn't mean they are photographers".

EXACTLY .. and as we all know the vast majority of humanity on Earth is not computer literate .. but virtually all humanity has access to at least a village bought film camera!
 
Joseph S. Wisniewski said:
J_W_D said:
Joseph S. Wisniewski said:
That's part of the reason why he's been banned at least twice.
Click to expand...
Joe,

I don't think ignorance is a cause for banning.
It must have been something else.
Click to expand...
Well, one time, he got into a heated discussion with Phil, and told
Phil to F off, several times.

Now, that's probably more along the lines of "stupidity" than
"ignorance"....
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Banning isn't all it is cracked up to be. I, for example, got banned for spelling boke.
 
J_W_D said:
Joseph S. Wisniewski said:
J_W_D said:
Joseph S. Wisniewski said:
That's part of the reason why he's been banned at least twice.
Click to expand...
I don't think ignorance is a cause for banning.
It must have been something else.
Click to expand...
Well, one time, he got into a heated discussion with Phil, and told
Phil to F off, several times.
Click to expand...
Banning isn't all it is cracked up to be. I, for example, got
banned for spelling boke.
Click to expand...
OK, there's got to be quite a story there. Care to share?

--
The Pistons led the NBA, and lost in the playoffs.
The Red Wings led the NHL, and lost in the playoffs.

It's up to the Tigers now...
Leading the league, and going all the way!

Ciao!

Joe

http://www.swissarmyfork.com
 
Negative film won't be much of use when digital camera penetrate all corners of the world.

Transperancy will survive a lot longer, even though the size of the market will be no where near the digital version. My collection of slides always gets "Woo!" and "Ahh!" from whoever I show it to.

I compare this to the relation between tube amps and solid state amps. The tube amp market is small but has solid followers, the solid state amp makers like to say, "Our new model is a step closer to the tube amp." One guys said it right, "Tube amp will be always in demand even if it's small, untill one maker start claiming, our new model is just as good as solid state amp."
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Now that everybody has cars, do you think that there are the same number of blacksmiths around as there was 100 years ago? Do you think that there are the same number of horses bred as there was 100 years ago? Does it bother you that there still are blacksmiths who still shoe horses? Probably not. I doubt if you even think about it as you cruise Main Street on a warm Saturday night. It certainly doesn't keep you up night worrying about whether cars are still the dominant transportation technology...right?

In the past 10 years of "Car and Driver" magazine, I don't think anybody ever wrote in proclaiming "Riding (horses) is dead!" They wouldn't bother.

Well, it should be the same thing with photography. It shouldn't bother you how many film photographers there still are or even how many people prefer their film cameras to the new digitals. It shouldn't keep you awake nights obsessing about film sales figures and you shouldn't think that you need to rush out and proclaim every time there is a .5% decline in market share. That smacks of insecurity.

Why then do we see this obsession with what other people are using to take pictures? Who cares? Also, why be obsessed with whether people think that 'Film is dead' or not? It shouldn't bother you. Concentrate on your photography and don't worry about what other people might be using. Are people worried that a really great picture that they admire might have been taken with film? Would that destroy your world?

Come on everybody, Get a life! Concentrate on making the best pictures you can with the equipment you have and stop looking over your shoulder to see what 'the other guy' is using.
 
Seriously, who the heck cares? If 10 people say film (or digital) is dead, would you promptly sell all your gear?
 
Joseph S. Wisniewski said:
J_W_D said:
Joseph S. Wisniewski said:
J_W_D said:
Joseph S. Wisniewski said:
That's part of the reason why he's been banned at least twice.
Click to expand...
I don't think ignorance is a cause for banning.
It must have been something else.
Click to expand...
Well, one time, he got into a heated discussion with Phil, and told
Phil to F off, several times.
Click to expand...
Banning isn't all it is cracked up to be. I, for example, got
banned for spelling boke.
Click to expand...
OK, there's got to be quite a story there. Care to share?
Click to expand...
check my posting history. I'd assume it was something in the ones just before the week long break last week.
 
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