Harrassment at Beach Photo Shoot!

jaymc · Jul 11, 2006

And how did Rush Limbagh, in all his biggotness, prevent you from ever being heard? More liberal slander!
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jk · Jul 11, 2006

i think she harrased you because she was jealous and the girls were getting ehr nubbys attention ..rofl

tommc4 said:
Good Morning All!

(Normally, I hang out in the Canon 30D forum, but this seemed a
more appropriate place to post this.)

THE FOLLOWING IS AN EDITORIAL COMMENT, AND THE PHOTOGRAPHS ATTACHED
HEREWITH ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THAT EDITORIAL MATERIAL. (Gotta
cover my butt legally!)

Yesterday, I had the pleasure of doing a shoot for a local
modeling-escort company. Needed to do some shots of 4 young
ladies. While doing the shoot at a local public beach, we actually
got harassed by a woman for doing the shoot!

The shoot was very tasteful (bikinis and "boyshorts" as the girls
call them). While doing the shoot, a woman who was about 200 feet
away came over and started snapping photos of all of us with her
camera phone. She started yelling at the girls that they were
demeaning themselves for allowing such photos to be taken, came
over to me and I explained that the ladies were cover per local
regulations, and that we had an absolute right to be on the beach
and taking photos. She started in on me, saying they could have
picked a better looking photographer...I laughed at her, because I
was married to a hot internet model and adult video star until
recently (I left out the until recently part!), and then asked her
to move on. She then stated that what we were doing was obscene,
and she was calling the police!

I then grabbed by phone and made like I was calling the police
myself, "explaining" the situation, and the woman hauls a** away
from us, grabbed her hubby and kid and left the beach! (However,
realize that I WOULD have called them if necessary.) I was almost
rolling in the sand, it was so funny. We finished the shoot, got
some great photos, and left.

Here are a few of the shots, including a couple of the harasser!

THE HARASSER:
First started harassing me:

Her expression when I told her I had called the police:

My point....no matter what, stand your ground. There have been
many articles of late about photographer's rights. If we don't
stand up when confronted, we will simply encourage people to walk
all over us!

--
Tom McElvy
http://imagesbytom.com
Va Beach VA, USA

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beam me up scotty

im giving it all shes got captain

jk · Jul 11, 2006

its a beach for crying out loud people wear bathing suit and stuff at a "beach" so i cant see anything wrong there .. only thing i can think about is the woman is jealous and has some hardcore mental fixation about the female form

Larz Yerxa said:
First, These women, their looks and potential occupations
notwithstanding, were no more exposed that anyone on the beach
today not fifty feet from where I sit. They have every right to be
in their swimware and have their pictures taken. I see no reason to
presume Tom doesn't know whether he needs a permit or not. The
problem is that these women did not coincide with the other woman's
sensibilities. In my opinion, big deal! I may not like purple cars,
non-Harley-Davidson motorcycles, kareoke or Republicans, but I
don't have any right to tell others they shouldn't like them. (OK,
I keep trying with the Republicans) Just kidding. Seriously, just
because one doesn't like something doesn't mean it's wrong.

Second, What does it say about me that I recognize Tom's ex?

Larz
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beam me up scotty

im giving it all shes got captain

jk · Jul 11, 2006

she would've gotten far farther had she not thrown a tantrum

personally i hate when people throw a tantrum to my face because then on purpose i keep doing what i feel like doing

snow4ever said:
She was also practicing her right to free speech. Your freedom to
do a photoshoot of hoes doesn't protect you from someone objecting
to it.
I'm not taking a stand for or against what you did, but everything
we do might have consequences that we don't like.

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Kristian Farren
http://kf3.net/gallery/

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beam me up scotty

im giving it all shes got captain

tbcass · Jul 11, 2006

shutterbugbytes said:
So tell me, who is trying to force people to conform to their point
of view?

The lady was of course. She was over the top. At the same time the photographer really should make an effort to find a spot away from those who may be offended.
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Tom

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25301400@N00/

tbcass · Jul 11, 2006

Maybe the problem is because those girls are "butt ugly".
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Tom

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25301400@N00/

Bob Sakamano · Jul 11, 2006

Absolutely beautiful...wait, I forgot my glasses...yikes! No amount of monitor calibration will help!!! Make it stop!!!

Just kidding really. Different strokes. If people choose tho live their life however they want, who am I to say it is good or bad. Everyone has dreams, and whether they pose for escort services or harass people posing for escort services, we are all a little misguided some of the time. The eyeliner woman had just as much right to question your behavior as you did being on the beach. Obviously, she wasn't nice about it, so your reaction was fine by me.

Off topic comment---same thing happened at a park near my parents home. Except the old complainer had friends in high places and now an expensive permit is necessary to shoot at that park.
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44Magpie · Jul 11, 2006

After seeing your 'models' I'm sorry I opened this thread...

Ian Y&#1072;tes · Jul 11, 2006

they are experts at it over here!

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jaymc · Jul 11, 2006

"...the girls were getting ehr nubbys attention"

What are "ehr nubbys"?
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Lee280zx2 · Jul 11, 2006

Could someone please post some penicillin pictures?

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LeeR · Jul 11, 2006

David Mazeau wrote

David Mazeau said:
To be honest, after a day of looking at this thread, I guess that I
will finally confess it all seems a bit sad to me.

David Mazeau said:
At the center of it all, as I look at it, are these 4 quasi-ugly young
women that are in such dire economic straights that they need to
be meeting up with men they don't know, for an hour or two, for
money.

David Mazeau said:
One says "escorts", but we all know what it is usually all about. Not
that I think prostitution should be illegal, but it's a sad business, I
think.

David Mazeau said:
Even in those cases where the women in question is never beaten
up by some psycho, which also happens sometimes, it's still a sad
profession, I'd say. Worse than working as a gravedigger or on the
back of a garbage truck, in my opinion.

David Mazeau said:
So right at the root of it, there's that sadness.

David Mazeau said:
Then there's the woman that bothered the photographer. She seems,
from the photo, like a bit of a fruitcake too. Another sad story, her
life, quite probably.

David Mazeau said:
And then there's Tom, the author of it all. Describing his ex-wife
as "a hot internet model and adult video star" ... but one would
hope her qualities went beyond that. That is to say, a good friend,
a kind hearted woman... et cetera.

David Mazeau said:
And I still find it shocking that one can do what is clearly a commercial
shoot at a public beach, without any permit, in Virginia Beach, VA.

David Mazeau said:
Although I see nothing wrong, if no permit was really required, on
the photographer side. And the woman probably should have
minded her own business ... but still, all around, from several
different perspectives, it's not an especially cheerful thread.

David Mazeau said:
But here in "Open Talk" it's probably on topic, so who am I to say
things need to be cheerful. And I'm not saying that. I'm just
saying it seems a bit depressing.

Wow...your words expressed my feelings pretty much exactly. I will add this: The brain can acquire all sorts of beliefs, perspectives, and attitudes. The one good thing about this post is that it inspired me to be careful about "feeding" my brain as much wholesomeness and quality as possible; it's like the computer term: "Garbage in, garbage out."

Lee

Lee280zx2 · Jul 11, 2006

rediculous-hah!

I'm sure Bill O'Reilly would like to fully investigate this story.

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14nLover · Jul 11, 2006

Lee280zx2 said:
Could someone please post some penicillin pictures?

I don't have any penicillin pics, but here's some pills I shot last night. Plumpatrin won't cure what they probably carry, but might improve thier looks? http://www.plumpatrin.com LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

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Chris Crawford
Fine Art Photography of Indiana
http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com/fine_art/index.htm

Craig Gillette · Jul 11, 2006

Google wasn't confused nor were the various sites it returned that used "privacy tort" in their titles, details, abstracts or discussions, etc. (or privacy or tort and a wide variety of different combinations). More than enough to get the main ideas across.

Many of the responders were too busy being offended by the thought that anyone might be offended by a possibly tasteless photoshoot that they seemed to have missed that an assertion of editorial usage might not be enough to deflect the issues arising from holding someone out to public ridicule.

Brandeis's ghost will have to deal with an incident in Virginia being hosted/discussed on an "English" site by an international set of commenters.

Stephen Schwartz115733 · Jul 11, 2006

Because religon and morals don't mix?
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Stephen Schwartz115733 · Jul 11, 2006

Conservative radio comaonies have bought a LOT of band width in the US since the fairness doctrine died. In many parts of the country it is Rush and Rushoids and worse all day long.

The internet may save us, but the consolidation of American media is frighteningly close to the predicitons of Lenin.
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SeattleJew.blogspot.com

kristian2000 · Jul 12, 2006

get the job done!

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nickoly · Jul 12, 2006

somebody has used the words I was looking for.

I only bothered to come back to these miserable women because the topic had attacted so much traffic. It didn't get better and I'm amazed it took about a hundred posts for this to come up

David Mazeau said:
To be honest, after a day of looking at this thread, I guess that I> will finally confess it all seems a bit sad to me.> > At the center of it all, as I look at it, are these 4 quasi-ugly young> One says "escorts", but we all know what it is usually all about. > So right at the root of it, there's that sadness. > And then there's Tom, the author of it all. Describing his ex-wife> as "a hot internet model and adult video star" .. I'm just> saying it seems a bit depressing.>

MSG01 · Jul 12, 2006

I don't know US privacy laws, anyway here in Europe what you were doing is perfectly legal and correct!
The lady who attacked you went nut!

tommc4 said:
Good Morning All!

(Normally, I hang out in the Canon 30D forum, but this seemed a
more appropriate place to post this.)

THE FOLLOWING IS AN EDITORIAL COMMENT, AND THE PHOTOGRAPHS ATTACHED
HEREWITH ARE CONSIDERED PART OF THAT EDITORIAL MATERIAL. (Gotta
cover my butt legally!)

Yesterday, I had the pleasure of doing a shoot for a local
modeling-escort company. Needed to do some shots of 4 young
ladies. While doing the shoot at a local public beach, we actually
got harassed by a woman for doing the shoot!

The shoot was very tasteful (bikinis and "boyshorts" as the girls
call them). While doing the shoot, a woman who was about 200 feet
away came over and started snapping photos of all of us with her
camera phone. She started yelling at the girls that they were
demeaning themselves for allowing such photos to be taken, came
over to me and I explained that the ladies were cover per local
regulations, and that we had an absolute right to be on the beach
and taking photos. She started in on me, saying they could have
picked a better looking photographer...I laughed at her, because I
was married to a hot internet model and adult video star until
recently (I left out the until recently part!), and then asked her
to move on. She then stated that what we were doing was obscene,
and she was calling the police!

I then grabbed by phone and made like I was calling the police
myself, "explaining" the situation, and the woman hauls a** away
from us, grabbed her hubby and kid and left the beach! (However,
realize that I WOULD have called them if necessary.) I was almost
rolling in the sand, it was so funny. We finished the shoot, got
some great photos, and left.

Here are a few of the shots, including a couple of the harasser!

THE HARASSER:
First started harassing me:

Her expression when I told her I had called the police:

My point....no matter what, stand your ground. There have been
many articles of late about photographer's rights. If we don't
stand up when confronted, we will simply encourage people to walk
all over us!

--
Tom McElvy
http://imagesbytom.com
Va Beach VA, USA

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