A20 Powershot

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Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?

I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
 
Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?
I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like
a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon
Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me
which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
This was the first camera that I wanted. I decided I didn't like it because it doesn't handle low-light situations very well and is very limited on the options you can set. (Read reviews here or on http://www.imaging-resource.com ) The next camera I wanted was the Olympus C-2040. This is among the best in all lighting situations, and has a large amount of options/manual setup. The only thing I didn't like about the C-2040 is that the pictures seemed a little soft in comparison to the A20. For an inexpensive camera (2 megapixel), I'm not sure there is a better one then the C-2040. If you think you will ever want to take a picture at night, I would stay away from the A10/A20 cameras.

Well, after awhile, I stumbled onto the Cannon G1 (3 megapixel), then the G2 (4 megapixel). At this time, I really want a G2, but may settle for a G1. There is also the Cannon S series, the S10 or S20 may be better then the A10/A20, I don't know. The S30 and S40 are brand new, and either are sure to be better then the A20. I'm not sure however if they are better then the G1 or G2.

I still have not been able to get a digital camera, but I have been saving (and researching) for about 4 months now. Best of luck to you!

Tommy
 
Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?
I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like
a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon
Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me
which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
The A20 is a great camera to start any path in photography.

Depending on your experience in general with cameras the A20 could be just right or not enough in the manual controls area.

If you read the A20 review on this site you will get an idea what it will allow you to do.
It is a very reliable camera,produces exceptional colours and great pics.

It will allow you to add different lens converters to extend the cameras and your's abilities.
It does not suffer from any of those pixel issues that larger MP cameras do.

The value for money ratio is getting better as the days go on 6 months is a longtime in the digital camera world.

My experience with the Coolpix 775 is nil, maybe someone at the NIKON forum can link you to some of their pics.
Here are some photos I have taken with my A20 and a few accessories.
Click the Link ww.pbase.com/jonlg/inbox&view=tree
Cheers jonlg
--~
 
This was the first camera that I wanted. I decided I didn't like
it because it doesn't handle low-light situations very well
I disagree,I've seen some great pics on this board shot at night by Tim John
this is his pbase gallery http://www.pbase.com/galleries/timjohns
Ask Tim if he can show you his night shots

This is among the best in all lighting situations, and has
a large amount of options/manual setup. The only thing I didn't
like about the C-2040 is that the pictures seemed a little soft in
comparison to the A20. For an inexpensive camera (2 megapixel),
I'm not sure there is a better one then the C-2040.
The Olympus C series cameras seem to have bad CHROMATIC ABBERATIONS
which would wreck alot of your day shots.
This was one reason I did not buy an Oympus.
Well, after awhile, I stumbled onto the Cannon G1 (3 megapixel),
G1 is old in the tooth,it was superceeded in August by G2.
may settle for a G1. There is also the Cannon S series, the S10 or
S20 may be better then the A10/A20 ,
. The A20 is newer/better

The S30 and S40 are brand new, and either are sure to be better then the A20.
Better is a subjective word they are high end pocket type cameras.
not sure however if they are better then the G1 or G2.

Mate,your 4 month research has not been deep enough,if you have not learnt that the G series is superior to the S series by now you should not buy a camera.
I still have not been able to get a digital camera, but I have been
saving (and researching) for about 4 months now. Best of luck to
you!
Research to a point is your best friend.
You will have a gut feeling about a camera from the start.

Go to your local store and have a feel and play with those cameras your thinking about.
--~
 
Elias,

I think for it's price and level (point and shoot) the A20 is the best camera in the market.

I had trouble with with macro photos about a month or two ago, I've gotten over that now and I am slowly getting better at taking close ups.

I placed an order last week for the lense adaptor for the A20... I'm still waiting to receive it.

If you're interested in viewing night shots, I have fireworks and night time shots available at my web site: http://www.abhayonline.da.ru .

The A20 does lack the ability to take extraordinary night time photos because its max shutter is only 1 sec and ISO ranges from 100-150. But as long as you have decent lighting and a tripod available, the pics turn out ok.

Just click on the links below for a direct link to the galleries:

fireworks: http://abhayonline.topcities.com/personal/photos/gallery2/fworks/page_01.htm

Night photos at Kwantlen Uni College: http://abhayonline.topcities.com/personal/photos/gallery2/20011108/page_01.htm

Regards,

Abhay.
 
Elias Prokos :

I have the A-20 and I love it.

Good points:

Available lens adapter
Extremely easy to use
Great photos (I think anyway)
Uses recharagable AA batteries
3X Zoom
Has some "mass" to it. It feels like a camera to this old guy

Not so good points:

Difficult to get low light shots (But they can be done I've learned)

Viewfinder does not accurately represent the boundries of the actual shot. Especially on macro shots. The solution is to use the LCD = Problem solved.

I find I get a lot of red eye. This may be normal however for P&S camera - I don't know

This is my first camera since an Instamatic a million years ago and I think it does a great job! I have created some really nice 8 x 10's with it and generally I am extremely pleased - However, I now have the bug and I want a 5 MP camera, and a Canon s600 that will do 8 x 10 and ....

Maybe Santa is listening :-)

If you want to see some A-20 shots, see my gallery below.

Good luck

Ken
http://www.pbase.com/ksmith/
 
I've posted a few messages regarding my favourable experiences with the A-20 (you could try searching for them). In a nut shell, I did a lot of research before I bought the A-20 - my first digicam - and I think I made the right choice at the time. I feel that it's the best camera in that price range as far as quality goes. However, after using it for about a week I discovered a passion for digital photography that made me upgrade to a G2 for the extra features and manual controls. If you're looking for a great camera that's quite portable but you don't need to do TOO much creative stuff with it as far as manual control (although, you can still do some cool stuff with high-quality results, don't get me wrong), I'd say the A-20 is the way to go.

Unfortunately it seems the A-20 doesn't get much attention in this forum, at least compared to the G2, but don't think that means no one's using them and loving the experience! I'd highly recommend this camera, but beware the addiction to this hobby. ;)

I think the A-20 has the highest quality images in its class, but the main thing you need to do is figure out what your needs are, then you can decide which camera will best suit YOU . Good luck in your decision.

Michael

P.S. Check this out for a comp. between the 775 and A-20: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp775/page14.asp Yowza, A-20 sure looks like the winner here, although the 775 is super tiny and light, which may be an important factor....
Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?
I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like
a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon
Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me
which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
 
Based on my research, I have to conclude that the A20 is very a good camera, and I have recommended it to friends who have asked me to recommend a digicam to start with, based on the reviews on this site and others, it is clear to see that it is a rather exceptional digital camera. Some of those friends to whom I have recommended the camera did buy it and they are pleased with it. Of course, not owning one myself means that my recommendation can only go so far.

Before I start out, I know nothing of your abilities or criteria for choosing/buying a digital camera in the first place other than that you have been looking at P&S. So I've added a few things to the boiling pot here in case they might be helpful.

But I wish to point something out about digital cameras. Very few digital cameras have a TTL (Through The Lens) viewfinder, be it optical or electronic. Those that do tend to be more expensive than their non-TTL brethren. Most digital cameras (even the high-end prosumer ones) have the regular real-image optical viewfinders. Even my own Nikon CoolPix 995 (I bought it 2 months ago new for US$725) does not give an accurate view of the subject when doing macros - no camera digital or film with a non-TTL viewfinder will, it is a fact of real-image optical viewfinders, so don't worry too much about that. Use the LCD like Ken says.

Low-light shots. Many digital cameras do not do well in low-light. How low is low-light? Depends on the digital camera. Often, a brightly painted (white or nearly white) room with just 1 or 2 tungsten lights is definitely already very low-light. The flash will go off, meaning that your shot will probably not suffer from shake, but it might be out of focus. Not owning an A20 myself means that I can't tell you how well the AF Assist light works in such situations.

Red-Eye. When the flash is so close to the axis of the lens, red-eye is inevitable, especially among non-tropical people! Not much can be done about it. Many cameras have red-eye reduction flash mode, but if your subject is not looking directly into the camera/flash, then it will not work, and you will still get red-eye. You can only know it's there and try to work to minimize it.

Decide what kind of camera/photography you wish to buy/do. Then look at the cameras that fill that role, then compare budget. Don't look at the whole range and end up spending more than you thought you would. I think it will only confuse the issue to start looking at a Canon A20, and then end up looking at a Canon G2 instead. They are totally worlds apart, for different sort of photography, and different budget! I read of one guy who was dreaming of a Nikon CP5000 (about US$1099) and eventually bought a Canon D30 with lenses and stuff (altogether more than US$3,000?). Well, if he can afford it, he's luckier than me, but most people need to set a budget. Don't get carried away! I think anybody knows that the most expensive is not necessarily the best for themselves. Common psychology is: get excited about more expensive camera, more features. Spend more on that. Not quite what you were looking for, you get a bit dissapointed with it. Remember that when we spend more, often we expect more. If what you were looking for was a P&S, then spent more on a prosumer with manual controls but don't use those features, then you may be very disappointed.

A20 is a point-and-shoot, albeit a very capable one. Oly C-20x0Z is more serious type camera, with manual modes, etc., so is the Canon G2. But the G2 is a 4megapixel camera. Don't forget you will pay extra for all those things, also extra for the flash hotshoe on top of the G2. Although the G2 can be used as a point & shoot, it is also bigger and heavier to accomodate all those extra features. You may not like that.

Last of all, I always recommend that people try out a camera as much as possible in a traditional bricks and mortar shop first before buying. Sometimes a camera looks good on paper, but there's some aspect of real-life usage about it that you just don't like, the shape of the grip, viewfinder too small and uncomfortable to use, etc.

Disclaimer: Of course, all this is only my opinion, but I offer it here humbly in case it may contribute in helping the new buyers. I believe that it is fair and sound advice. Many others on this forum have given good advice too.

Jason
Elias Prokos :

I have the A-20 and I love it.

Good points:

Available lens adapter
Extremely easy to use
Great photos (I think anyway)
Uses recharagable AA batteries
3X Zoom
Has some "mass" to it. It feels like a camera to this old guy

Not so good points:

Difficult to get low light shots (But they can be done I've learned)
Viewfinder does not accurately represent the boundries of the
actual shot. Especially on macro shots. The solution is to use the
LCD = Problem solved.
I find I get a lot of red eye. This may be normal however for P&S
camera - I don't know

This is my first camera since an Instamatic a million years ago and
I think it does a great job! I have created some really nice 8 x
10's with it and generally I am extremely pleased - However, I now
have the bug and I want a 5 MP camera, and a Canon s600 that will
do 8 x 10 and ....

Maybe Santa is listening :-)

If you want to see some A-20 shots, see my gallery below.

Good luck

Ken
http://www.pbase.com/ksmith/
 
Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?
I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like
a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon
Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me
which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
Im new to the camera game and im by no means an expert. However, i bought the A20 as my first camera and i must say im pleased with it. It does lack some manual features but i suppose it depends what you want......I have been totally satisfied with mine, its great!
 
Ken,

Nice photos. You have an instinct for composition and subject matter. Really like the one's you chose as your favorites. You also have some other excellent shots. I think you're off to a great start with your A20. Since I just bought an A20 for my daughter for Christmas, its good to see what the camera is capable of when used by someone with little experience, but with obvious talent. Can't wait until my daughter opens her present and starts shooting.

Dan
http://www.pbase.com/digital_edge
Elias Prokos :

I have the A-20 and I love it.

Good points:

Available lens adapter
Extremely easy to use
Great photos (I think anyway)
Uses recharagable AA batteries
3X Zoom
Has some "mass" to it. It feels like a camera to this old guy

Not so good points:

Difficult to get low light shots (But they can be done I've learned)
Viewfinder does not accurately represent the boundries of the
actual shot. Especially on macro shots. The solution is to use the
LCD = Problem solved.
I find I get a lot of red eye. This may be normal however for P&S
camera - I don't know

This is my first camera since an Instamatic a million years ago and
I think it does a great job! I have created some really nice 8 x
10's with it and generally I am extremely pleased - However, I now
have the bug and I want a 5 MP camera, and a Canon s600 that will
do 8 x 10 and ....

Maybe Santa is listening :-)

If you want to see some A-20 shots, see my gallery below.

Good luck

Ken
http://www.pbase.com/ksmith/
--I must be a photographer - I keep running around in circles of confusion.
 
I bought the Canon A20 last summer as a replacement to my broken Nikon Coolpix 800. The main reason I selected A20 at the time was it also uses CompactFlash and AA batteries, so I could keep using the memory cards and rechargeable batteries I bought for the CP 800.

Recognizing it's a point and shoot, and had experience with CP 800, I did not expect A20 to do more than just a point and shoot. All digicams in this category are not good for indoor photography. But the camera is equipped with ways to mitigate the problems in most situation. I found in many times, all you need is a a tripod or a fixed surface and let the timer do the job for you.

One very common mistake is people shooting a faraway object (more than 10-15 away) with the automatic flash on in an indoor situation. The sensor would trigger the flash for the nearby objects. But since your main object is further, the flash is not powerful enough and the AE is primed for the nearby objects. What you get? A grossly underexposed image. That's why I kept screaming "dummie, dummie" when I saw thousands of flashlights come off in a darkened stadium.

The A20 has various WB adjustments that would take care most of the indoor lighting situations. One should not fascinating a stop-action image from the humble A20, but use it smartly, it would surprise you a lot.

Finally, the best price/value belongs to the Fuji 2600 at $299 retail. For skin tones, the Fuji's are always a notch above all other brands, hands down.

Harry
Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?
I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like
a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon
Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me
which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
--Harry
 
Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?
I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like
a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon
Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me
which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
Hi all

I bought an A20 after masses of research, as my first digicam. I have used Canon slr cameras since the manual focus EF was introduced. The A20 did not disappoint me, and I have posted some of the shots I took with it. I now have a G2, as the A20 made such an impression on me.

http://www.pbase.com/dlporter/a20_shots
 
My fiance and I have had an A20 since May and have produced some excellent photos with it. When we have obtained good results, some of those photos are about as good (sharp and detailed with accurate, vivid colors) as any we have seen from a 2mp camera and really compete with more expensive cameras, even 3.3mp cameras. We have also found that a good 20% or more of the photos we take are blurry and may have focusing problems; some of these are unquestionably photographer error, but other poor shots don't seem to have an explanation; a follow up shot with the same settings and virtually everything else, including hand steadiness, will produce a significantly better picture.

The A20 fits into one's hand very comfortably and the controls are easy to use. My fiance is not very techno-oriented and has no problems using the features on this camera. Unlike several of its competitors, like the Oly 490 and 510, as well as the Fuji 2400 and 2600, the A20 is quite easy to grip and hold. The A20 has a video out jack, for doing slideshows on a TV, while the Fuji models do not; we have found this feature to be usefull when showing photos visiting with friends and relatives, and I would rule out any camera that did not have this feature.

In retrospect, I wish we had bought an Olympus 2040, which was only about $30 more back in May and now can be had for about the same price as the A20. The 2040 is capable of taking pictures in the same league as the A20, although I concede that the A20 may have a very slight advantage on photos taken in good lighting. In addtion to the standard auto-everything setting, like the A20 has, the 2040 has full manual settings, which will allow one to go from pure beginner to knowledgeable photographer with that same camera. The A20's settings are very basic, in contrast. The 2040 also has a faster f1.8 lens and can operate with an inexpensive, optional remote control.

Finally, you might want to check out the Olympus 2100. With a stabilized 10x zoom lens, you will be able to capture distant images that would just be a small dot if taken with a 3x A20 or 2040. The 2100 takes pictures that are not equalled by any other 2mp camera - do a search in the gallery forum for the zoo shots taken by Big Guy. It is bigger than these other cameras, though and, like the 2040, uses SM cards, which are a bit more expensive and don't come in sizes as large as CF cards.

Good luck.
Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?
I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like
a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon
Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me
which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
 
hi elias

thanks for posting this question, i am looking at the canon powershot A20 as an option for my sister who is planning on a digital camera as an atlernative for her regular P&S camera. did u buy it yet and how much did u pay for it?? its listed at 284$ at buydig now

regards

pradeep
Has anyone experience with A20 Powershot ?
I want to buy one, that is my first digital camer and it looks like
a good one to me, also within my budget. I have seen also the Nikon
Coopix 775 about the same price and futures. Anyone can inform me
which one is the best ?
Thanks a lot
Elias
--'live life for the day' - pradeep raghunathan
 

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