What is a 'Four Thirds' sensor?

...for reminding everyone that there are more alternatives in the DSLR world than many may be aware, and that 4/3s is often an underrated and overlooked format. An open-minded view of all alternatives is a very healthy approach to life.

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Ray

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The 4:3 aspect ratio is what traditional television screens use. This shows digital photography's video heritage (The CCD was originally developed for video cameras.) Many digital cameras, however, have adopted the aspect ratio of computer monitors rather than 35mm film.

However, the aspect ratio for televisions is changing from 4:3 to 16:9. Maybe 4:3 is a bit old-fashioned?
 
However, the aspect ratio for televisions is changing from 4:3 to
16:9. Maybe 4:3 is a bit old-fashioned?
It's a shape! A SHAPE! With no inherent technical, artistic, or moral value connected to it. You guys might as well be arguing about how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin!

Regardless of the Aspect Ratio that your particular camera comes with, you are free to crop to whatever AR you choose according to whatever your personal vision dictates at the time.

this whole thread has taken on an odd surreal tone!

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The 4:3 aspect ratio comes from NTSC TV sets and the other
electronics (camcorders, computer monitors, etc.) built around
them. That, in turn, comes from the "Academy Ratio" of 4:3 that is
the OAR for old films.
TV folk latched onto the 4:3 ratio for two reasons.

First, back when TV started out, everything was round. Picture tubes were round, Vidicon camera tubes were round. Raster scans, naturally, were rectangles, inscribed in the round tubes. 3,4,5 is a Pythagorean triple, 3 is the vertical, 4 is the horizontal, 5 is the diagonal. That made all the math easy for figuring lens coverage, even for set building. Vertical is 60% of diagonal, horizontal is 80% of diagonal, vertical is 75% of horizontal.

Second, although by the time TV standards were gelling, the motion picture industry was already moving to wider formats, TV was not conceived as motion picture. It was live entertainment, and that involved a lot of single head shots and two head shots. 4:3 is the ultimate compromise, you can show a single head, two heads, a stage and band, or a landscape, and be equally (but minimally) offensive in every domain.
Common aspect ratios

1.25:1 -- 8 x 10 prints, 4 x 5 medium-format film cameras
1.33:1 -- NTSC TVs, digital P&S cameras, Four-Thirds system
1.40:1 -- 5 x 7 prints
1.41:1 -- European paper sizes (SQRT(2):1 is real convenient for
scaling)
1.50:1 -- 35mm film, APS film, DSLRs with those sensor sizes, 4 x 6
prints
You forgot all those 6x9cm 120 and 220 format cameras. Kodak had lots of folders in that format. I have a folding autographic 2A.

Long before 35mm, 3:2 was seen as the obvious evolution, from the first round picture Kodaks, to square with rounded corners, to full square.

Those 6x9 folders and boxes had multiple viewfinders. You'd often have a small reflex ground glass viewer for both vertical and horizontal locations, turn the camera and there's another finder. My autographic folder has a rotating reflex finder and a pop up wireframe finder.
1.60:1 -- Widescreen Apple monitors (HDTV picture + menu bar on top)
1.66:1 -- Some Disney films
If it's Disney, would it be 1.666?

Seriously, not a bad ratio, there's psychophysical reasoning behind it.
1.78:1 -- Widescreen HDTVs (16:9).
3^2 x 4^2. I can't understand what's so special about that particular ratio.
1.85:1 -- Many widescreen films. On disc, might be cropped to 16:9.
2.35:1 -- Many Westerns (e.g., "The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly")
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However, the aspect ratio for televisions is changing from 4:3 to
16:9. Maybe 4:3 is a bit old-fashioned?
It's a shape! A SHAPE! With no inherent technical, artistic, or
moral value connected to it.
Heavy sigh....

What are they teaching kids in schools these days?

No "inherent" artistic value? Well, I guess that's true...

If you ignore thousands of years of art and architecture history. Ever heard of the "golden mean"? How about the "Canon of Proportions"? Ever taken a class in anatomy for artists? Seen the "Vitruvian Man" of Leonardo da Vinci? Maybe you've read of it's namesake, the Roman architect Marcus Vitruvius Pollio, who set down the principles of architectural and artistic proportion about 2100 years ago? And that's just the "aspect ratio" parameter of "shape"



How about "technical" value?

The aspect ratio determines the percentage of a lens's coverage circle that you use.

It determines the mechanical design of a camera. Given the same diagonal, a 3:2 swinging mirror has 0.62 of the moment of inertia of a square mirror, which means it can either move 1.62x faster (given the same amount of force and noise) or move with 62% of the force, and less noise and vibration, if you want the same speed.

It regulates the type of the camera. A square format enables you to make a twin lens reflex, like the classic Rollieflex. On an SLR, it enables you to have an angled viewfinder, like the 30 degree upturned Blad prism finders. A rectangular format gives you a rectangular camera, which gives you a better base for a rangefinder.

It determines the ergonomics of a cameras. A square camera never gets turned on its side, so you only have to worry about control operation in 1 orientation. You can place controls for that orientation, with no compromise. A 3:2 gets turned, a lot, so the controls have to be relatively comfortable in either orientation, forcing certain compromises. A 4:2 may even have redundant controls for both orientations.

A 3:4 is somewhere in the middle, many people do not turn a 645 medium format when shooting horizontal. Four-thirds (tm) SLRs are light, and shy on pixels, so they get turned. That's why Oly offers a vertical grip for the E-1.

It also determines how a lens designer has to treat the aberrations and light falloff in the corners of the image. The more "square" the aspect ratio, the more visible light falloff and aberrations are, so a lens design that looks great on a 3:2 format because it has a sharper center at the expense of corner sharpness or falloff,

And if you want to get into "moral" value...

Various aspect ratios (including the golden mean, the perfect square, 3:2, pi and pi/2, the 1.73:1 aspect of a 30 degree rectangle, or sets of Pythagorean triples like 3:4:5) have been considered sacred to different religious sects. Doesn't matter if you're building St. Peter's Basicila, the Parthenon, the Alhambra, Stonehenge, or the pyramid of Giza, or just getting the right ratio of vertical to horizontal on a Christian cross, the virtuous and moral ratios

And that's just aspect ratio. Shape is often the symbol of religion. The cross. The star of David (I won't get into the Da Vinci code). The pyramids. The Ahnk. The Platonic solids.
You guys might as well be arguing
about how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin!
Well, we might, except that aspect is a real issue that affects the life of photographers.
Regardless of the Aspect Ratio that your particular camera comes
with, you are free to crop to whatever AR you choose according to
whatever your personal vision dictates at the time.

this whole thread has taken on an odd surreal tone!
Only since you joined it.

--
The Pistons led the NBA, and lost in the playoffs.
The Red Wings led the NHL, and lost in the playoffs.

It's up to the Tigers now...
Leading the league, and going all the way!

Ciao!

Joe

http://www.swissarmyfork.com
 
Fashion runs in trends. Those trends are not always logical or predictable. As we see the number of wide screen TVs and video cameras increase, people are going to want images that don't have those black bars on the edges.
 

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