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I'm rather ashamed of some of the responses I've read here. This really does remind me too much of the Nikon forum for comfort. If you don't have anything constructive to say, positive or negative, maybe it's not too much to ask to just not post at all.

Come on folks, lets not behave like third-graders.
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Garland Cary
 
...any more proof than dust-free pictures. There is a video clip on Olympus' E-system website that show how the filter works by pouring on a bunch of dust and then watching the filter vibrate it all away at 30,000Hz.

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Garland Cary
 
Ken Phillips said:
Dust simply isn't a big problem. (BTW, I've owned or had use of
every nearly every Canon DSLR, as well as a couple of Nikons.)
I believe Canon is the best system available. I've exceeded a
million clicks on Canon equipment.
It's so fast and easy to remove dust from a sensor as to be trivial.
(Scan a few tens of thousands of slides and negatives, and I'll
show you a REAL dust problem.)
Be a real PHOTOGRAPHER, not just a point-and-clicker.
Ken

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Good point, I agree. Its not an issue, keeping your lens clean and your sensor filter clean is just part of the job. Everybody deals with it and doesnt freak out over it.

Mike
 
I wouldn't say you have no dust problem.
Just doing a brief scan of some of your pics I found a few dust spots.
Not very noticeable but there non the less.
 
It's about the competence to manage dust. It is an issue to deal with, definitely it is but it is not the big boogeyman some have made out to be.

I use Nikon and Canon. I have loyalties to neither company. I have no zealot agenda here. I find it hard to believe it took this poster 5 cameras to get fed up when the olympus 4/3 has been around just as long. He is the one putting emphasis on dust, not us.
fuzzytalz said:
I'm rather ashamed of some of the responses I've read here. This
really does remind me too much of the Nikon forum for comfort. If
you don't have anything constructive to say, positive or negative,
maybe it's not too much to ask to just not post at all.

Come on folks, lets not behave like third-graders.
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Garland Cary
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How is it that I shoot in the desert constantly and have not had this frustration you have? Do you not know how to take care of a pro camera? You would swap FF for some anti dust device? Have at it, make the jump. I prefer Image quality of the 5D and the dust i can deal with through maintenance. Oh, BTW, does Nikon or Olympus or Pentax have any sealed lenses?
exapp said:
Have to tip toe in future.

Pity canon is not addressing the issue like other manufacturers
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GT
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Dust is eveywhere. I've had it in my Nikon and there's some on my Dell screen right now. But that wouldn't make me toss out my laptop and go back to my Commodore 64!!!

But here's something that was told to me by a Canon field rep last Saturday at a demo day. She said this in response to my question about debris problems in the 5D (which I became aware of only in these forums). I've since discounted the debirs issue as something that affected a few poor soles but the rep's response was quite odd:

"Canon suggests that you change camera bags every 3 years or so."

Her rationale was that dust is everywhere and even though some bodies are sealed, the glass isn't and dust can creap in from your bag, where it can 'live' inside the fabric, invisible to the naked eye but it moves around as you move the bag.

Reasonable at some level but ludicrous on other levels. She also insisted that the user Never clean the sensor on their own......don't run with scissors etc.

No kidding!! I have to get back to throwing out my bags and gear.

Bob
 
consider the evidence:

This is the OP's first post using this account. In at least two separate posts in this thread he claims that he has never registered on dpreview before.

AND YET, when asked to show examples of his photography, he shows us the following gallery:

http://www.celbridgecameraclub.net/galleries/tobinland/index.html

Now this is the gallery of one "Gavin Tobin" from Ireland. A quick search for Gavin Tobin reveals the following post:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=1836006

There was a Gavin Tobin from Ireleand who asked a question about the S40 on December 2, 2001.

Now, the OP claims he has used the following cameras: "D30, D60, 10D, 20D and now have a 5D", but does not mention the S40.

This all adds up to one thing. It is really very sad that some people feel the need to create a persona and to steal someone else's gallery only to trash company X,Y or Z and post negative threads. I would say that this account (exapp) deserves to be banned.

The OP may post some nonsense to wriggle out of this. He may even be Gavin Tobin (but that's doubtful). He claims that he never posted before because of "Too much bitching on the forums too little objective advice....".

It's clear that he has nothing useful to contribue to this forum.

A troll by any other name...

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PismoBeach said:
How is it that I shoot in the desert constantly and have not had
this frustration you have? Do you not know how to take care of a
pro camera? You would swap FF for some anti dust device? Have at
it, make the jump. I prefer Image quality of the 5D and the dust i
can deal with through maintenance. Oh, BTW, does Nikon or Olympus
or Pentax have any sealed lenses?
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A few of the Nikon lenses are sealed, depending on your definition of "sealed." The 17-55 f/2.8 DX has a rubber gasket at the lens mount. The moving front element of the 17-55 is machined and assembled to tighter tolerance and smaller gaps than a consumer-grade zoom like the 18-70 DX Nikkor for example, which gets a little wobbly at full extension (and lacks the rubber gasket). It's sort of hit-or-miss to find lenses with the gasket. The fairly expensive "gold ring" 12-24 DX Nikkor zoom doesn't have one, which I thought was odd, considering the price.

The gasket and tight tolerances with the 17-55 DX Nikkor probably help a little in reducing dust, but I think the lens mount gasket is actually designed more for moisture protection, so you can shoot in wet environments. Once you take the lens off the camera to swap lenses, all bets are off, for dust migration.

If you can live with the effective focal length range (FF equivalent) of 26mm to 83mm, and never take the lens off the camera, then a D200 or D2X with the 17-55 would probably be the closest thing to a "dust resistant" camera over on the Nikon side of the fence. It won't be totally dust-free though.
 
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