Adobe acquires Pixmantec

Im really not happy at all. IF there is one thing Adobe cant do in
their RAW processing is workflow. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.
Seems Lightroom is to be the main beneficienary of RSP's guts. Most of us haven't played with this yet but the reviews are good and workflow is completely different from the Bridge/ACR/PS paradigm. There's reason to be hopeful (guardedly so, of course).

David
 
Although not the giant that Adobe is, Corel has been packaging RSE with their Photo Paint products as their RAW converter solution. It would appear that Adobe may be taking a shot at Corel, forcing Corel to look elsewhere for RAW conversion.
 
Sorry for the harsh title but I'm so fed up with adobe... They have photoshop at a stupid price in Europe, and then have Elements at a decent price but... it is the same price of Paintshop Pro X which is enormously superior to Elements.

And then there's the famous upgrade policy of adobe.

And now they buy the company which has the, in my opinion, best raw converter. As so, I wont probably be able to get the premium version unless I buy Photoshop so... bye bye rawshooter. :(
 
Although not the giant that Adobe is, Corel has been packaging RSE
with their Photo Paint products as their RAW converter solution. It
would appear that Adobe may be taking a shot at Corel, forcing
Corel to look elsewhere for RAW conversion.
I bet thats the thinking behind it. Corel lag a bit in the RAW dept, but PSP is a damn good product at a fine price...if they can nail the RAW thing PS is in for a hard time anyway...

Corel is a pretty big company, maybe PSP 11 will be the real thing, though X was good...

I wont ever buy PS...its so overpriced its not even funny........
 
I have to say I am disappointed.

RSP was my first RAW conversion tool after Pentax Photo Lab that came with my DS.

I find RSP supremely easy to use, its fast and efficient and produces great looking images. Its also a very affordable RAW conversion tool. I have no need to upgrade at the moment but if I were to buy Pentax's upcoming 10mp DSLR or the K110D I'd have to change my software - this is infuriating! Or will Adobe release RAW support updates for RSP - is this what they mean by support?

And I really doubt that Lightroom is going to be within my budget. I may feel a little better about things if Adobe gave upgraders a very heavy discount, but I suspect that this isn't going to happen.

:(

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Made the canon 17-85 useful at 17.
 
Just wanted to add my 2pennies worth

This is a sad day. RSE/RSP are very good products, especially for a novice like myself. They have enabled me to produce better photographs by allowing me to understand what i did wrong when taking the picture. And they allowed me to process pictures in a quick, easy and efficient manner. They aren't perfect products (nothing is of course) but they are damm good.

I am sorry to see that the development will stop. Whether it will resurface in Lightroom or not, we will have to wait and see. I doubt it though, this stinks of shutting down the competion.

However, most people here seem to think that their copy of RSP has stopped working. Guys, just because the development has stopped, the product still works. If it is working for you now....it will continue to work in the future. You can still use it without having to pay a penny to Adobe.

Unless you get a new camera that isn't supported of course :-(
 
Unless you get a new camera that isn't supported of course :-(
And there's the rub ;)

How difficult is it to update such programmes to read new RAW files? How much time/money would it cost Adobe to continue to support RSP with new updates?

Of course all this would be a moot point if camera manufacturers standardised their RAW files... :)

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Of course all this would be a moot point if camera manufacturers
standardised their RAW files... :)
in a way, I support the companies doing their own raw format.

the idea is that raw is a THIN pass thru of the essential info stored in that sensor. how that vendor pulls data out and writes to a file is HIS business. if he (the company) finds that its faster or takes less code to encode this way or that way, that's probably a well-made tech decision.

should everyone have used EBCDIC (old ibm encoding) just because IBM said so? ebcdic was done based on hardware reasons (as I understand that historical character format) and there were gains in efficiency to encode and use that.

on other machines, ascii was faster and more 'native' to the hardware.

in the same way, I do NOT expect many to support DNG on the camera. that's probably a very awkward format for hardware vendors to have to encode to. I bet there is no silicon support, today, for that format. and its not cost-effective to add 2 encode formats when 1 does all the vendor needs.

as long as you can, on your host (pc) convert to dng, adding dng to cameras makes less than no sense to me.

NOW, if someone comes up with a very small chip that will encode it AND make that chip free for all to use, THEN there might be dng support in cameras. I am not waiting for THAT even to happen, of course..

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to me it looks frightning ... adobe wants to control basicly raw conversion a smuch a spossible .. eerily reminding me of another big company located in redmond

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beam me up scotty

im giving it all shes got captain
 
Yeah, and I don't blame them. If Adobe paid a big enough price for it, they'd be crazy not to really.

However, that doesn't mean I approve of Adobe buying up a competitor, and basically burying the innovation. It seems a lot of people really liked the workflow in PRS, and I very much doubt Adobe bought them to integrate this into their own software.

I just wish that companies would compete on the merit of their current products, rather than being able to use their past success to prevent anyone threating their current profits by offering superior competition.

Dave
Adobe paid them the dosh and they shut up shop! this isnt some
corporate buy out, pixmantec were a private owned company, the
owners bailed out and took the cash! simple as...they didnt have
to..

A plc yeah you can just outbuy everyone else on shares, its a
public company....this one was private, the directors owned
it..that was until they saw adobes big fat cheque hit their desk!
 
Of course all this would be a moot point if camera manufacturers
standardised their RAW files... :)
in a way, I support the companies doing their own raw format.

the idea is that raw is a THIN pass thru of the essential info
stored in that sensor. how that vendor pulls data out and writes
to a file is HIS business. if he (the company) finds that its
faster or takes less code to encode this way or that way, that's
probably a well-made tech decision.

should everyone have used EBCDIC (old ibm encoding) just because
IBM said so? ebcdic was done based on hardware reasons (as I
understand that historical character format) and there were gains
in efficiency to encode and use that.

on other machines, ascii was faster and more 'native' to the hardware.

in the same way, I do NOT expect many to support DNG on the camera.
that's probably a very awkward format for hardware vendors to have
to encode to. I bet there is no silicon support, today, for that
format. and its not cost-effective to add 2 encode formats when 1
does all the vendor needs.

as long as you can, on your host (pc) convert to dng, adding dng to
cameras makes less than no sense to me.

NOW, if someone comes up with a very small chip that will encode it
AND make that chip free for all to use, THEN there might be dng
support in cameras. I am not waiting for THAT even to happen, of
course..

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Bryan (pics only: http://www.flickr.com/photos/linux-works )
(pics and more: http://www.netstuff.org ) ~
Yeah, I understand what your saying, but for the consumer it can still be confusing and a mild irritation.

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http://www.homepages.ucl.ac.uk/~ucsacco/
 
I agree quite worrying. Adobe realises how important RAW will be in the future for photography.

But how we all groaned when Nikon tried to stand up to them with the white balance issue.

Lets hope Nikon, Sony and Canon are big enough to at least prevent Adobe getting a stranglehold.

Jeff
 
can all the open source gurus please focus on packaging a kickass RAW converter with a decent workflow.. that'll be a good swift kick in the HUGE and growing gonads of Adobe..

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I see dead pixels
 
Personally, as a user of RawShooter Premium, I consider this to be very bad news. One of the things I particularly like about RawShooter is that it is compact in terms of memory usage, fast to load, fast to operate, has a nice clean and uncluttered user interface, does not try to take-over your machine, and has all the tools I want without masses of bloatware - in short, RawShooter is the very antithesis of Adobe Photoshop (and indeed all Adobe products).

So unless Adobe surprise me with the manner in which they utilise the RawShooter technology and they offer me a good financial deal on my existing Pixmantec licence it looks like I will need to re-evaluate Bibble, SilkyPix or DxO. Or perhaps I should go back to Capture One Pro, for which I still have a licence and which I only stopped using about six or seven months ago. More hassle and expense no doubt - bl* dy Adobe!

Terry.
 
well, this sucks...

smacks of M$, and what the hell do they provide as an upgrade path? several hundred £ (or $ where ever you are - oh and I guarentee it'll be more in the UK/europe)

who makes these descisions? "I now I'll buy out a good and successful company, p*ss a whole world of people off and then shaft them"...
sound business sense that.
 

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