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I was just about set to but the D7 when the new CP came onto the scene. I'm keen on the D7 because of it's optics and price. I have to throw a tele-extender in the equation with the CP that I dont with the D7.

Just wondering why do people go on about the slow auto focusing from 150mm when you can flip it into manual?

Ive read reviews on both but Im a newbie to digital cameras. Does anyone have some info that could help steer me either way?

Thanks.
 
mark caplin said:
I was just about set to but the D7 when the new CP came onto the
scene. I'm keen on the D7 because of it's optics and price. I have
to throw a tele-extender in the equation with the CP that I dont
with the D7.

Just wondering why do people go on about the slow auto focusing
from 150mm when you can flip it into manual?
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Well, that is a very good question. Usually when I use the 200mm zoom, it is on something far away, and manual focus is just fine. I think that this is based on the tendency for new users to try a D7 in the store, crank the zoom out to 200mm, and try to focus on something close in what is probably poor lighting, then pronounce the focus "poor". The D7 focus is about as fast as the CP990 below 150mm, and I don't think that the CP5000 is that much different. I guess to be fair you should compare them below 85mm which is the limit on the 5000, and there the D7 will always focus in 0.6 to 0.8 seconds.
Mark Caplin said:
Ive read reviews on both but Im a newbie to digital cameras. Does
anyone have some info that could help steer me either way?

Thanks.
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Well, they are really different cameras. The 5000 is more compact, and more of a point and shoot. The 5000 also has a 28mm lens, but does not have the zoom end. The 5000 requires add on lenses and adapter tubes to get the zoom end, and that blocks the optical viewfinder (which would not be proper scale anyway). With it's superior battery life, and the wide angle, the 5000 strikes me as a good outdoor camera, and for touring.

The D7 has a better lens, less chromatic abberation, and you are unlikely to even want to use add on lenses. The manual focus and zoom make it more of a camera for the person who wants more control. The wider color space of the D7 is both a blessing and a curse, it means that you may feel the need to process your shots with an extra step if you will always be looking at them on an sRGB device. Some really like the extry control, some want "finished" shots from the camera, some think that the shots are fine as they are.

The exposure preview on the elctronic viewfinder on the D7 is great, and it is perfectly visible in sunlight. The D7 pop up flash helps get rid of "red eye". The D7 is much larger than the 5000 though, and it depends on what kind of camera you are looking for. I could see having both! Bryan
 
Both cameras are great .
Bryan Biggers said:
mark caplin said:
I was just about set to but the D7 when the new CP came onto the
scene. I'm keen on the D7 because of it's optics and price. I have
to throw a tele-extender in the equation with the CP that I dont
with the D7.

Just wondering why do people go on about the slow auto focusing
from 150mm when you can flip it into manual?
Click to expand...
Well, that is a very good question. Usually when I use the 200mm
zoom, it is on something far away, and manual focus is just fine. I
think that this is based on the tendency for new users to try a D7
in the store, crank the zoom out to 200mm, and try to focus on
something close in what is probably poor lighting, then pronounce
the focus "poor". The D7 focus is about as fast as the CP990 below
150mm, and I don't think that the CP5000 is that much different. I
guess to be fair you should compare them below 85mm which is the
limit on the 5000, and there the D7 will always focus in 0.6 to 0.8
seconds.
Bryan Biggers said:
Ive read reviews on both but Im a newbie to digital cameras. Does
anyone have some info that could help steer me either way?

Thanks.
Click to expand...
Well, they are really different cameras. The 5000 is more compact,
and more of a point and shoot. The 5000 also has a 28mm lens, but
does not have the zoom end. The 5000 requires add on lenses and
adapter tubes to get the zoom end, and that blocks the optical
viewfinder (which would not be proper scale anyway). With it's
superior battery life, and the wide angle, the 5000 strikes me as a
good outdoor camera, and for touring.

The D7 has a better lens, less chromatic abberation, and you are
unlikely to even want to use add on lenses. The manual focus and
zoom make it more of a camera for the person who wants more
control. The wider color space of the D7 is both a blessing and a
curse, it means that you may feel the need to process your shots
with an extra step if you will always be looking at them on an sRGB
device. Some really like the extry control, some want "finished"
shots from the camera, some think that the shots are fine as they
are.
The exposure preview on the elctronic viewfinder on the D7 is
great, and it is perfectly visible in sunlight. The D7 pop up flash
helps get rid of "red eye". The D7 is much larger than the 5000
though, and it depends on what kind of camera you are looking for.
I could see having both! Bryan
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--Greg
 
What type of pictures do you take? The telephoto range of the D7 makes it better for closeup portrait work - I take candids of kids, and the D7 is ideal for that.

Steven
greg mclemore said:
Bryan Biggers said:
mark caplin said:
I was just about set to but the D7 when the new CP came onto the
scene. I'm keen on the D7 because of it's optics and price. I have
to throw a tele-extender in the equation with the CP that I dont
with the D7.

Just wondering why do people go on about the slow auto focusing
from 150mm when you can flip it into manual?
Click to expand...
Well, that is a very good question. Usually when I use the 200mm
zoom, it is on something far away, and manual focus is just fine. I
think that this is based on the tendency for new users to try a D7
in the store, crank the zoom out to 200mm, and try to focus on
something close in what is probably poor lighting, then pronounce
the focus "poor". The D7 focus is about as fast as the CP990 below
150mm, and I don't think that the CP5000 is that much different. I
guess to be fair you should compare them below 85mm which is the
limit on the 5000, and there the D7 will always focus in 0.6 to 0.8
seconds.
greg mclemore said:
Ive read reviews on both but Im a newbie to digital cameras. Does
anyone have some info that could help steer me either way?

Thanks.
Click to expand...
Well, they are really different cameras. The 5000 is more compact,
and more of a point and shoot. The 5000 also has a 28mm lens, but
does not have the zoom end. The 5000 requires add on lenses and
adapter tubes to get the zoom end, and that blocks the optical
viewfinder (which would not be proper scale anyway). With it's
superior battery life, and the wide angle, the 5000 strikes me as a
good outdoor camera, and for touring.

The D7 has a better lens, less chromatic abberation, and you are
unlikely to even want to use add on lenses. The manual focus and
zoom make it more of a camera for the person who wants more
control. The wider color space of the D7 is both a blessing and a
curse, it means that you may feel the need to process your shots
with an extra step if you will always be looking at them on an sRGB
device. Some really like the extry control, some want "finished"
shots from the camera, some think that the shots are fine as they
are.
The exposure preview on the elctronic viewfinder on the D7 is
great, and it is perfectly visible in sunlight. The D7 pop up flash
helps get rid of "red eye". The D7 is much larger than the 5000
though, and it depends on what kind of camera you are looking for.
I could see having both! Bryan
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Greg
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I have the D7 and my wife has claimed my G1 for her use. When I saw the Nikon ad in a photo mag for the CP5000, I was really excited as now Nikon has the flip out LCD like the G1. G2 & Pro 90IS and has the 28mm wide angle like the D7. I thought this would be a great replacement for the G1 for my wife as she takes a lot of indoor group shots but hates to mess with the Canon wide angle converter screw-on. I visited the Nikon Talk forum to check it out. Based on several postings there, I think I will wait until some of the bugs are fixed before buying.
Good luck with your decision!
Tony

(Nothing against Nikon as I learned photography on a Nikon S and still have a Nikon SP, FE, F2 and a bevy of Nikor lenses.)--Tony
 
Tony said:
I have the D7 and my wife has claimed my G1 for her use. When I
saw the Nikon ad in a photo mag for the CP5000, I was really
excited as now Nikon has the flip out LCD like the G1. G2 & Pro
90IS and has the 28mm wide angle like the D7. I thought this would
be a great replacement for the G1 for my wife as she takes a lot of
indoor group shots but hates to mess with the Canon wide angle
converter screw-on. I visited the Nikon Talk forum to check it
out. Based on several postings there, I think I will wait until
some of the bugs are fixed before buying.
Good luck with your decision!
Tony
(Nothing against Nikon as I learned photography on a Nikon S and
still have a Nikon SP, FE, F2 and a bevy of Nikor lenses.)
--
Tony
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Hi Tony, I was in the same situation as you are. I bought the D7 because I got tired of waiting for CP 5000. I think the D7 is a great camera and even it it was not, you have only 600 plus dollars invested in it. The D7 like every other camera has its quirks but there are plenty of workarounds. Good Luck.
 
I think that putting most of the controls on the exterior of the D-7 is a big plus,(youve mentioned the bigger,longer 200mm lense)and with the price so cheap now someone could buy the D-7 this year and another next year once their prices drop.Doesnt look like the Nikon cp-5000 is much easier to use,although you get to skip the color thing.Dan
mark caplin said:
I was just about set to but the D7 when the new CP came onto the
scene. I'm keen on the D7 because of it's optics and price. I have
to throw a tele-extender in the equation with the CP that I dont
with the D7.

Just wondering why do people go on about the slow auto focusing
from 150mm when you can flip it into manual?

Ive read reviews on both but Im a newbie to digital cameras. Does
anyone have some info that could help steer me either way?

Thanks.
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