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Canon are developing medium format digital model now!
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11MP was the status 4 years ago. 22MP is possible with todays technology. I'd not state it as fact that this is the limit we will see. But I'd not expect the figure to be soemthing like 44MP in 4 years from now either.
Going to even bigger sensors is sure the only quaranteed way to go to radically higher MP figs.
If the 1Dsmk?? goes to 22MP it would also seem logical for the 5D
to get one more upgrade to 16MP in March if the typical 18 month
upgrade cycle holds.
I've been itching for FF. Hopefully, the price of the 5D will drop
a little more....
Edit..for their 35mm digital lens system.. this is after they
release the new "S" body.. I imagine it will be called the 1DsMk2N,
or the 1DsMk3.. I have no clue about that.. the name is the least
important..to me it amounts to "paint on the camera".....which will
feature 22 MP.. and some other nifty features.. including a new
rear LCD....which is like predicting that it will rain sometime in
the next month.. nothing special about that.. There apparently will
be no more MP's added to the 1.6 format cameras,..unless they
develope a new technology that allows them to pack more pixels into
that little chip without cranking up the noise at higher iso
levels.. Take note of the performance of the 1.5 format camera's
high iso performance.. the 1.6 format Canons are stronger in that
regard.
...... Edit.. I haven't heard anything about the 5D upgrade,..or
if there will be one for some time.. It's a great camera that is
still selling very well.. I'd like to buy another one myself..
--I spoke to a fellow friend who was working with a "new technology"
on an "old camera base"..he could tell that the camera had been
worked on a lot.. and perhaps, it was just being used to test out
this technology.. If I reveal specifics, he'll kick my butt..
Gosh,..I heard from some guy in the Fuji forum, that Canon's FF was
about to be killed by some new camera by them... LOL... what ever
dude.. FF is more popular than ever..
Something unrelated.... Paul Buff Inc., will be introducing two
new "ring flash" units.. one based on their 800 Alien Bee light,
and the other will be a whole new unit for the "White Lightning
system.. which will feature a separate power supply, and a flash
head.. the power (effective WS...not so sure what that exactly
means).. will be 2,600 WS...(perhaps 1,300 true WS, who knows)...
they will be able to run off the Vegabonds. They will be priced at
lower than any competitor's counterpart product,..and I believe,
they will be the first monolight based RF system available.. We
should hear much more in 30-45 days from now..
That's the "inside" report from me / Rootbeer/ Beerboy / all other
names I used on this site in the past.. ;->
Thank you David Martin for sticking up for me too!!
JP
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brokenpixel
Well-known member
Hey JP (seen you around Glamour1)!
It's about time they released that ring flash! I've been needling them about one for the better part of a year now! LOL The last time I asked them (earlier this year), they told me that they couldn't tell me specifics, but that they were working on "something". I'm glad to see that it's finally going to see the light of day (no pun intended).
... we now return you to your regularly scheduled rumors, conjecture, and wishful thinking.
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It's about time they released that ring flash! I've been needling them about one for the better part of a year now! LOL The last time I asked them (earlier this year), they told me that they couldn't tell me specifics, but that they were working on "something". I'm glad to see that it's finally going to see the light of day (no pun intended).
... we now return you to your regularly scheduled rumors, conjecture, and wishful thinking.
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Morihei
Senior Member
Ok, now you've freaked me out. If Canon builds this dream MF camera with Tilt/Shift, I will do whatever I have too to buy it. This is my dream camera! I just hope they don't come out with it and it sells for $40K. Then I might have to go to the major drug cartels and take out a loan......
Mike
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Andre Oliveira
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Yes. If they are planning to launch a MF back it is better to do it quickly or else they risk to have not even one MF manufacturer in the business. But if they are planning to launch a complete system time may be on their side.
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Ok, I have no idea if they are or aren't, but I suspect not.
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Rootbeer
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.....Yep,...it was nearly two years,..mid Summer 2004.. I can only imagine that since they were sinking a LOT of $ into R&D with it, that they would come out with something,..if not, perhaps a new sensor from what they learned in the process of developing it.. That, I have no knowledge of at the moment,..but the people who I've spoken to, love to talk because they love to be the first to say,..."Look, I told you so".. ;-) LOL!!
...Yes,....very different.. Now,...it's my understanding that it is not just a matter of making a Super Über Duper new sensor, they also have to make it "pratical" to use.. Imagine the 1DsMk2 with it's massive 16.7 MP sensor, in the 1Ds body with it's old technology,..and having to wait for even longer to preview the image on the back,..or shooting at a slower frame rate.. and shooting fewer shots because the buffer maxed out at 6 frames,.. that would totally suck!! What they have to do, is design new technology to make the new massive memory hungry cameras work better, or at minimum, "at least as good as" they did in the previous model.. They managed to do this very well with the 1DMk2 over the 1D,..and the 1DsMk2 over the 1Ds.. One of the problems that they face, is making "us" forum people happy. We now have every guy & their sister performing various independent camera tests,.. and people who aren't testing prototype products may not see something that forum member X sees in his production model camera.. possibly because they just want to report happy happy stuff back to Canon,...which makes me wonder who the heII tested tha 10D cameras before they put those god awful pieces of garbage on the store shelves with their god awful focus system that they dragged out of the Elan film camera which wasn't tuned for a 1.6 format camera... RRrrrrrr....grumble grumble... (hence the reason for the new 9 point AF system introduced in the 20D..I thank DavidP for that & not backing down..)...pardon me for my little rant there.. Canon is coming out with some really cool new stuff,.. I happen to know some specifics, but that stuff hasn't been released by any contract breaking people on the open forums as of yet...that I am aware of.,..& I don't spend much of my time here or other related forums these days.. However, Canon reads these forums.. they obviously read me.. One of their reps called me early in the morning after I gave a few hints about the 5D,.. telling me that "there is no such camera coming out", before insisting that I told her the specific source of where my info came from,...and what do you know,...that "no such camera" actually came out a few months later.. LMAO!! what a bad liar!! :-D Ha ha lady, I'm not going to rat out my friends!!! :-D But she did threaten me with this... ....you know Canon is a multi billion dollar company with interests all over the world, and in the descovery process they will learn who they are anyways,....so you better watch what you say from now on....bla..bla..bla.. Tell you what lady,...if I can do you, I'll tell you!! ...or at least I might.. ;-)
JP out!
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Rootbeer
Senior Member
.....Yes,...that is exactly my understanding.. I've heard this from the three different people who I get my info from.. I just want to mention,...that I'm not a techno guy either,..just a freelance photographer with ears.. ;-) & fingers on a keyboard.. ;-) :-D
......I don't know about that, but that would be cool for me..
...I'm sure it will..but I wouldn't hold your breath long,..and say if it does drop a few bucks,..will you be in a better position waiting for it, and not having it, by saving your few bucks by waiting all that time....?.... it could be a while before it does.. I believe there is a 500 $ cash back rebate going on now.. That's helpful,..and if you haven't already used one,..(try to rent one, or try out a demo at a store)..you'll like it a LOT.. I really enjoy mine.. I use it every day.. about 5 times more than both my 1DMk2 bodies combined..
Good day sir!
JP
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the one thing I see in Canon's future involving medium format would be the sensor & electronics. Canon's got sensor & supporting electronics right, and they have the capability to design and manufacture MF backs. I can see them building a back for somebody.
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Rootbeer
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....No,...sorry,... "The Great" Rolando has issues.. long story,...contact me through my MM profile 1224, or my OMP account, 6108, and I'll mail you the link to the whole entire story just prior to me being released.. the guy, IMO, is nuts.. ..long story..
....LOL,...that was actually a pretty good pun!!It's about time they released that ring flash! I've been needling
them about one for the better part of a year now! LOL The last
time I asked them (earlier this year), they told me that they
couldn't tell me specifics, but that they were working on
"something". I'm glad to see that it's finally going to see the
light of day (no pun intended).
This was pretty shocking to me too when I heard it.. & heck, I learned the majority from them.. I called them, and spoke to Paul Buff Inc. on the phone, asking if I could test the units out,.. and they said that they had several units out being tested right now,..and then they spilled the beans.. :-D ..that's a first..
...LMAO!!... we now return you to your regularly scheduled rumors,
conjecture, and wishful thinking.
Good to hear from you!
JP
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brokenpixel
Well-known member
It was actually GarageGlamour (now Glamour1, which I know you know. ).
I'm sending a message to your yahoo account...
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....from Feb 2007. This is starting to become the norm for big fashion magazine publishers now, it used to be they strictly only accepted medium to large format transparency and shunned digital. Now it is the other way round. Here is your market for Canon MF Digital backs or MF digital cameras at an affordable price.
I would like to buy a Sinar digital back for my RZ67 but they cost £12K, if Canon can bring out something better and cheaper I'd take it.
All the pro labs in London are also being squeezed out as film developing and contact proofs are becoming history and processing costs are rising. There will be alot more used medium film cameras on the market this Winter.
Once a new version of Photoshop is written to take advantage of the new intel macs architecture & speed and sony's blu ray becomes affordable I think we'll see a new dawn in large format digital. As the 5D is proving so popular amongst semipro's so the quality bar has raised for all professionals using digital. If you want to stay in the game get a 22mp camera system because 65mb files are going to be the norm for fashion/high end editorial from spring 2007.
I would like to buy a Sinar digital back for my RZ67 but they cost £12K, if Canon can bring out something better and cheaper I'd take it.
All the pro labs in London are also being squeezed out as film developing and contact proofs are becoming history and processing costs are rising. There will be alot more used medium film cameras on the market this Winter.
Once a new version of Photoshop is written to take advantage of the new intel macs architecture & speed and sony's blu ray becomes affordable I think we'll see a new dawn in large format digital. As the 5D is proving so popular amongst semipro's so the quality bar has raised for all professionals using digital. If you want to stay in the game get a 22mp camera system because 65mb files are going to be the norm for fashion/high end editorial from spring 2007.
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