Aperture on Macbook?

Mitch Gurowitz · May 16, 2006

Is this a fact that it won't run on the new machines? (It would be a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned). I haven't seen it in print that it won't but there are limited resources so far...

Thanks-
Mitch

Conchita · May 16, 2006

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=482808&tstart=0

ArtZAngel · May 16, 2006

Doesn't look like it will be supported by Apple- basically the same as the Mac mini. I have read there is a hack for the Mac mini to allow Aperture to run. It is no secret that Aperture relies on a beefy graphics card and the MacBook (& Mac mini) use shared memory.

Mike

Elliott Mitchell · May 16, 2006

I was in a Mac shop yesterday and Aperture is working fine on there new laptop. the program that first arrived didnt run on new machines but since then it has been released as a dual binrary program so works with both

Ian Wood · May 16, 2006

Elliott Mitchell said:
I was in a Mac shop yesterday and Aperture is working fine on there
new laptop.

If you were in a Mac shop yesterday, they didn't have a MacBook - it was only announced a few hours ago, and isn't even shipping yet.

I'd be very surprised if Aperture will work on a MacBook (non-Pro) without hacks, given that it won't on the near-identical Mac mini...

Alpha Doug · May 16, 2006

They had to do something to differentiate the MacBook from the Pro. Otherwise they are too similar apart from the plastic vs. aluminum. So they used the same Inel graphics processor with a 64 mbyte chunk of system ram used for vram. This is the same setup as in the mini. Also the resolution is down from the pro at 1280 x 900. These seem to be the primary differences between the Pro and the MB. Also, they don't seem to have an Express Bus card slot.
--
Only my opinion. It's worth what you paid for it. Your mileage may vary! ;-}

AperturePro · May 16, 2006

Mitch Gurowitz said:
Is this a fact that it won't run on the new machines? (It would be
a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned). I haven't seen it in print
that it won't but there are limited resources so far...

Aperture on any machine puts that computer through its paces. Exporting
a large project can take hours of number crunching.

IMHO, this is not good for any laptop to be worked so hard. Heat builds up
and you need those under the laptop fans just to cool them down.

You should think about running a laptop at full heat for hours on end if
that is your purpose.

Ian Wood · May 16, 2006

According to the product manager, Aperture WILL install and run on a MacBook, but is not officially supported and you won't get any joy if you call AppleCare...

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=482808&messageID=2338082#2338082

JosephSchorr · May 16, 2006

Posted this on Apple's site as well, but since I know many are curious:

Yes, Aperture does run on the new MacBooks, but it is NOT officially supported, due to limitations with the graphics card. You're not disallowed from using it (no hacks needed) but you'll essentially be using it at your own risk. Your mileage will vary with the MacBook, depending on your workflow.

Aperture is, of course, fully supported on all MacBook PRO models.

Joe Schorr
Sr. Product Manager, Aperture
Apple

ucs308 · May 16, 2006

I have owned G4 17, 15, and 3x12 inch. And by far the 12 inch is best laptop for what I do. I thought this was true for many many people, that used a laptop in the field and several desktops at home/office. I don't understand why Apple torched this model.

Kendall Helmstetter Gelner · May 16, 2006

ucs308 said:
I have owned G4 17, 15, and 3x12 inch. And by far the 12 inch is
best laptop for what I do. I thought this was true for many many
people, that used a laptop in the field and several desktops at
home/office. I don't understand why Apple torched this model.

I would also really like to see the 12" come back in an Intel model, as I was thinking to get that for portable Aperture work.

The new Macbooks might just do though...

--
---> Kendall
http://InsideAperture.com
http://www.pbase.com/kgelner
http://www.pbase.com/sigmasd9/user_home

Mitch Gurowitz · May 16, 2006

Thanks Joe-

One more question since you have the knowledge here, I have a Dual 2.0 G5 with about 4 gigs of RAM and the original graphics card. I find the Aperture preformance to be pretty miserable (but it is getting better with each point release).

How well does the program run on a 17" MacbookPro?

(I have about 20,000 images currently).

Thanks!
Mitch

JosephSchorr said:
Posted this on Apple's site as well, but since I know many are
curious:

Yes, Aperture does run on the new MacBooks, but it is NOT
officially supported, due to limitations with the graphics card.
You're not disallowed from using it (no hacks needed) but you'll
essentially be using it at your own risk. Your mileage will vary
with the MacBook, depending on your workflow.

Aperture is, of course, fully supported on all MacBook PRO models.

Joe Schorr
Sr. Product Manager, Aperture
Apple

JosephSchorr · May 16, 2006

Personally, I'm very pleased with Aperture performance on the 17-inch MacBook Pro with 2 GB of RAM. I spend most of my time in Aperture on MacBook Pros these days.

You might want to check out last week's review in Photo District News, which says about Aperture 1.1.1: "Yes, it runs like a champ on our Quad G5, but in non-disk intensive tasks, the MacBook Pro just kicks the ass of the Quad. Many operations occur so smoothly on the MacBook Pro as to make the program seem like it’s skating on ice.

Full review at

http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/prodtech/reviews/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002465473

Joe Schorr
Sr. Product Manager, Aperture
Apple

uwe_r · May 16, 2006

Mitch Gurowitz said:
One more question since you have the knowledge here, I have a Dual
2.0 G5 with about 4 gigs of RAM and the original graphics card. I
find the Aperture preformance to be pretty miserable (but it is
getting better with each point release).

How well does the program run on a 17" MacbookPro?

Just to support Joe's statement: I have Aperture running on a 15" 2.0 GHz MBP with 2 GB RAM and my Dual 2.7 PowerMac with the GeForce 6800 Ultra and 8 GB RAM (and will hopefully be getting my 17" MBP shortly). All real-time adjustments (with Canon 5D RAWs / 12MP being the biggest I have on the laptop) are instant, something that I cannot say for the G5 at all (delays are not immense, but noticeable). I truly hope the PM Intel replacements (Big Mac Pros) come soon (alternatively I will need a dual 30" laptop).

Cheers,
Uwe

jdurston · May 16, 2006

Thanks for the reply Joe. This is a major factor in the buying decision of many of us here. I personally use Aperture on a personal basis so basic compatibility is more important than blazing speed you would expect on pro-machine.

I would like to upgrade to an Intel portable from my 1.5GHz Powerbook 15" but can't afford a MBP and really want better battery life. That leaves the MacBook for me.

It's good to know directly from Apple that the MacBook is not outright disallowed. I'll have to check it out first hand before I buy.

Josh Durston

JosephSchorr said:
Posted this on Apple's site as well, but since I know many are
curious:

Yes, Aperture does run on the new MacBooks, but it is NOT
officially supported, due to limitations with the graphics card.
You're not disallowed from using it (no hacks needed) but you'll
essentially be using it at your own risk. Your mileage will vary
with the MacBook, depending on your workflow.

Aperture is, of course, fully supported on all MacBook PRO models.

Joe Schorr
Sr. Product Manager, Aperture
Apple

ucs308 · May 16, 2006

Please don't encourage them - Apple.

Consider what they are saying. We have a minimum configuration. The new MacBooks fall below that. But rather than have people scream that it will not install on the new MacBooks, we took the wind out of their sails by allowing it to be installed but not accepting responsibility for the consequences. The way AppleCare works you will not be able to get for a MacBook problem if they found you have been running Aperture on their laptops. So it is not that they will not help you with Aperture your MacBook warranty will be void.

And people find that acceptable behaviour? Apple do some cool stuff. And I am bummed there is not a MacBook Pro 12/13inch. But their behaviour is incredible.

jdurston · May 16, 2006

ucs308 said:
Please don't encourage them - Apple.

Consider what they are saying. We have a minimum configuration. The
new MacBooks fall below that. But rather than have people scream
that it will not install on the new MacBooks, we took the wind out
of their sails by allowing it to be installed but not accepting
responsibility for the consequences. The way AppleCare works you
will not be able to get for a MacBook problem if they found you
have been running Aperture on their laptops. So it is not that they
will not help you with Aperture your MacBook warranty will be void.

And people find that acceptable behaviour? Apple do some cool
stuff. And I am bummed there is not a MacBook Pro 12/13inch. But
their behaviour is incredible.

What are you talking about?

It was stated above that no hacks are required to install Aperture. Your warranty will be fine. Don't expect to get Aperture specific support for an unsupported machine though. Apple was nice not disallow Aperture from a low spec'd machine. Aperture is not going to melt your processor or anything. The worst thing that can happen is a frustrating user experience.

uwe_r · May 16, 2006

Maybe there is a little misunderstanding here... fooling around (even if you know what you are doing) with not user-serviceable hardware parts of a MB(P) will void the warrantry and AppleCare. Installing whatever software will not. There is a difference between not getting answers for an unsupported software and loosing warrantry, the latter not being the case.

Cheers,
Uwe

ucs308 · May 16, 2006

Well I have some experience here. So when Apple comes back and states that installing Aperture on a MacBook won't void the warranty then we can all be certain.

It would also be nice of them to state that Aperture will not destroy my negatives - raw files and that asking an unsupported video chip to do things it is not designed to do is not going to cause any damage to files, disk or video and if it does they will repair.

jdurston · May 16, 2006

ucs308 said:
Well I have some experience here. So when Apple comes back and
states that installing Aperture on a MacBook won't void the
warranty then we can all be certain.

It would also be nice of them to state that Aperture will not
destroy my negatives - raw files and that asking an unsupported
video chip to do things it is not designed to do is not going to
cause any damage to files, disk or video and if it does they will
repair.

Have you ever read a software licence ageement? Basically any program has the authority to destroy your computer and files completely with no liability (in most cases).

Aperture on Macbook?

Active member

Veteran Member

Senior Member

Well-known member

Leading Member

Veteran Member

Veteran Member

Leading Member

Member

Forum Enthusiast

Forum Pro

Active member

Member

Veteran Member

Well-known member

Forum Enthusiast

Well-known member

Veteran Member

Forum Enthusiast

Well-known member

Similar threads

Keyboard shortcuts