D30 prices, why haven't they dropped?

I have been following the prices of the D30 closely for the past 6-8 months and they have yet to decline significantly. Sure, Canon has made the 1 GB MD/battery offer, but they used to offer the camera with a 340 MB MD and overall the deal isn't that good.

The price remains in the mid $2.5 + K range from any reputable dealer that I have found (sure, you go ahead and order a non-in-stock gray market camera from Broadway photo or its various counterparts.

Any thoughts here?

Canoga Camera ( http://www.canogacamera.com/ ) is selling the D30 for $2250. Lots of people have ordered from them. They are not selling a grey market camera. They are a canon reseller and you qualify for the free 1GB + BP511 battery and get the USA warranty.

Joo

Adam2 said:

I have been following the prices of the D30 closely for the past
6-8 months and they have yet to decline significantly. Sure, Canon
has made the 1 GB MD/battery offer, but they used to offer the
camera with a 340 MB MD and overall the deal isn't that good.

The price remains in the mid $2.5 + K range from any reputable
dealer that I have found (sure, you go ahead and order a
non-in-stock gray market camera from Broadway photo or its various
counterparts.

Any thoughts here?

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Adam2 said:

The price remains in the mid $2.5 + K range from any reputable
dealer that I have found (sure, you go ahead and order a
non-in-stock gray market camera from Broadway photo or its various
counterparts.

Any thoughts here?

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You can buy US version of D30 for
$2078 on buydig.com. I've bought mine
there an everything was just fine.

Andrey

The prices haven't dropped because I haven't decided to sell my camera

I know it sounds a little self centered, but there are thousands just like me. Until we have a reason to sell our cameras and create supply, and until new buyers have a reason to buy something else reducing demand, I think it will remain pretty much the way it is.

There are hints of Nikon coming out with a D30 killer, and hints of Canon coming out with a few new models too. Next year is going to be a very very interesting year. In the meantime, I take killer pictures that thrill me time and time again. And the pictures taken her on the forum by my friends continue to just amaze me. You can actually LOVE this camera!!

Peter Gregg

Andrey Tverdokhleb said:

You can buy US version of D30 for
$2078 on buydig.com. I've bought mine
there an everything was just fine.

Andrey

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I called CanonUSA and the operator said they are not an authorized dealer. The operator sounded foreign and didn't seem to know what I wanted. Probably should call back and talk to someone else?

Anyway, Buydig.com doesn't have anything mentioned on their web page about the Canon rebate offer.....so I'm guessing they are NOT an authorized dealer.
Roln

For peformance, features and pricepoint....nothing comes close (IM very HO) and that will keep the prices up. However, there are a few reputable discounters and I'll second that recommendation on Canoga. They have been fantastic to work with.

Adam2 said:

I have been following the prices of the D30 closely for the past
6-8 months and they have yet to decline significantly. Sure, Canon
has made the 1 GB MD/battery offer, but they used to offer the
camera with a 340 MB MD and overall the deal isn't that good.

The price remains in the mid $2.5 + K range from any reputable
dealer that I have found (sure, you go ahead and order a
non-in-stock gray market camera from Broadway photo or its various
counterparts.

Any thoughts here?

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--Jeff

It's just a matter of time that digital photography is gonna taking over the film photography (both amateurs and pro's). As the demand is going up, the camera companies would produce a wide spectrum of models to satisfy all needs. The digital sensors are expensive to make (for now), but look what happened to the flat LCD screens for the computers? Once you reach a mass market, the cost of making digital sensors would drop inevitably. Therefore, I am patient, and I don't need to wow my friends and relatives now because I have to pay a premium price. I expect a D30 grade camera woudl cost less than $1000 in no more than 3-5 years. Don't expect the prices for top-notch lenses to drop much, though.

Harry

Adam2 said:

I have been following the prices of the D30 closely for the past
6-8 months and they have yet to decline significantly. Sure, Canon
has made the 1 GB MD/battery offer, but they used to offer the
camera with a 340 MB MD and overall the deal isn't that good.

The price remains in the mid $2.5 + K range from any reputable
dealer that I have found (sure, you go ahead and order a
non-in-stock gray market camera from Broadway photo or its various
counterparts.

Any thoughts here?

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--Harry

I guess I just kinda shake my head when I read a question like this, and wonder, just what is it you expect? A bargain basement price on an outstanding camera? How much do YOU feel it should be priced by now, almost exactly one year after its introduction?

It lists at $3500, the going street price from most vendors a year ago was $3000, and it still is among many. I shopped around last November online and bought mine for $2800.

As many posts have already pointed out, you can buy one from a number of places for close to $2100, give or take....and most of them are reputable dealers. Throw in a microdrive that goes for about $225 and a $50 battery and I feel like you have a bargain in todays' world.

That means you're getting the camera for a price equivalent of over 1/3 off what it was last winter.

You feel like it should be even cheaper right now?

Get real.

Peter Stewart

They are. I called 1-800-ok-canon and was told that canon knows them as "beach camera" and they are authorized. Also when I ordered camera there I asked them about rebate and they assured me that this camera will be eligible for rebate.

Andrey

Roln said:

Andrey Tverdokhleb said:

You can buy US version of D30 for
$2078 on buydig.com. I've bought mine
there an everything was just fine.

Andrey

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I called CanonUSA and the operator said they are not an authorized
dealer. The operator sounded foreign and didn't seem to know what I
wanted. Probably should call back and talk to someone else?
Anyway, Buydig.com doesn't have anything mentioned on their web
page about the Canon rebate offer.....so I'm guessing they are NOT
an authorized dealer.
Roln

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Well instead of shaking your head and "dissing" the question why don't you give it some serious thought?

Nearly every digicam's price has dropped dramatically over time as sales volume increased and new models arei ntroduced. Using your own figures (and they are low-ball) the camera has decreased approximately 25% in price over the past year. Contrast that with the Nikon 995 which sold for $1000 less than a year ago and can be had today for $349 (go to http://www.techbargains.com to verify). Seems to me a > 60% price reduction in a top-of-the line non-slr digicam is quite impressive and quite real.

Peter Stewart said:

I guess I just kinda shake my head when I read a question like
this, and wonder, just what is it you expect? A bargain basement
price on an outstanding camera? How much do YOU feel it should be
priced by now, almost exactly one year after its introduction?

It lists at $3500, the going street price from most vendors a year
ago was $3000, and it still is among many. I shopped around last
November online and bought mine for $2800.

As many posts have already pointed out, you can buy one from a
number of places for close to $2100, give or take....and most of
them are reputable dealers. Throw in a microdrive that goes for
about $225 and a $50 battery and I feel like you have a bargain in
todays' world.

That means you're getting the camera for a price equivalent of over
1/3 off what it was last winter.

You feel like it should be even cheaper right now?

Get real.

Peter Stewart

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I think they have dropped, or I would not have become a D30 owner last week. From Canoga (good folks, they)

Canon D30 package, including 1 year CANON extended warranty, extra battery, battery grip, and an extra battery and 1GB microdrive from Canon for was $2494. I know there are some lower prices floating around the Web, but I'll pay a little more to support a reputable dealer.

Joe Hawblitzel

Adam2 said:

I have been following the prices of the D30 closely for the past
6-8 months and they have yet to decline significantly. Sure, Canon
has made the 1 GB MD/battery offer, but they used to offer the
camera with a 340 MB MD and overall the deal isn't that good.

The price remains in the mid $2.5 + K range from any reputable
dealer that I have found (sure, you go ahead and order a
non-in-stock gray market camera from Broadway photo or its various
counterparts.

Any thoughts here?

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--Joe Hawblitzel

I see this kind of question quite often in these forums. Someone decides he wants a particular camera or software program but doesn't want to pay the going price and asks why it is so expensive. It's priced where it is because it's worth that price and people are willing to pay that for it.

Peter Stewart said:

I guess I just kinda shake my head when I read a question like
this, and wonder, just what is it you expect? A bargain basement
price on an outstanding camera? How much do YOU feel it should be
priced by now, almost exactly one year after its introduction?

It lists at $3500, the going street price from most vendors a year
ago was $3000, and it still is among many. I shopped around last
November online and bought mine for $2800.

As many posts have already pointed out, you can buy one from a
number of places for close to $2100, give or take....and most of
them are reputable dealers. Throw in a microdrive that goes for
about $225 and a $50 battery and I feel like you have a bargain in
todays' world.

That means you're getting the camera for a price equivalent of over
1/3 off what it was last winter.

You feel like it should be even cheaper right now?

Get real.

Peter Stewart

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That's true, they want the best cameras to drop in price the equivilent of other cameras. Why not buy the camera that has dropped in price the way you wanted it to? The answer usually is, that is not the camera they want. They want the D30.

Interesting to me is what happened to the Minolta D7. I am not commenting on the camera itself, but the price behavior. When it came out a few months ago it was commanding a premium over list, or at the least, list price. Now, I see the same $1599 camera for $999. I was flabergasted. And this was in Best Buy!!!!

I guess this is a real live way to rate cameras - see how the price drops. The quicker the drop, the worse the public seems to have recieved the camera. I am sure there are a few sleepers out there, but I am not referring to them.

On that scale, I would say the D30 is very well received and if a person wants one, they have to pay the price.

But take heart, whenever the new D comes out, being a D40, D70, or whatever, then if all else is fair, there will be a drop in the D30 price. You can wait until then if you want. I am sure the price will drop then, so be patient and you will get your D30 at a reduced price in time. I just hope it's in your time

Pete

Adam2 said:

Well instead of shaking your head and "dissing" the question why
don't you give it some serious thought?

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Because the answer is pretty obvious: there is little to no competition for the D30. The Nikon 995 was a bit of a stopgap product anyway and there are many better alternatives now. The D30 defined a market category completely and still doesn't have a well positioned competitor. Thus the D30 has come down in price more like a tradtional camera would (and even a bit faster than that).

-Z-

Z (is real) said:

Because the answer is pretty obvious: there is little to no
competition for the D30. The Nikon 995 was a bit of a stopgap
product anyway and there are many better alternatives now. The D30
defined a market category completely and still doesn't have a well
positioned competitor. Thus the D30 has come down in price more
like a tradtional camera would (and even a bit faster than that).

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It's micro economics 101 - the law of supply and demand.

Adam2 said:

Well instead of shaking your head and "dissing" the question why
don't you give it some serious thought?

Nearly every digicam's price has dropped dramatically over time as
sales volume increased and new models arei ntroduced. Using your
own figures (and they are low-ball) the camera has decreased
approximately 25% in price over the past year. Contrast that with
the Nikon 995 which sold for $1000 less than a year ago and can be
had today for $349 (go to http://www.techbargains.com to verify). Seems
to me a > 60% price reduction in a top-of-the line non-slr digicam
is quite impressive and quite real.

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One shouldn't expect the EOS D30 and consumer digicams to follow the same market patterns. They are not of the same market, and were not aimed at the same audience in the first place.

The digital SLR market is unique, differing from point and shoots, targeting mostly professionals or dedicated enthusiasts, not house hold consumers.

Did you follow the price of the old Nikon D1? Last year before the re-schmangled versions came out (D1h and D1x) it was still holding at least 75% of its original price -- much more than a year later! And the other OLD, old Kodak hybrids were still remarkably costly relative to their initial release prices.

Beside the disparate audiences, the nature of advances among newer releases in these two worlds is different too. In the D SLR arena the cameras are equipped with a quality imager that is sufficient for professional use -- which inherently retain much more staying power in relation to newer relased D SLRs. As such, today the D30 appears anything BUT silly despite the release of the EOS 1D. And the D1h and x variatitons have not rendered the D1 obsolute.

This is not necessarily true with consumer grade digicams. The Nikon Coolpix 800 looks woefully inadequate in light of the 950, and likewise the 990.... Hence, their value drops at a steeper rate.

Bill
http://www.flatarts.com/

The answer is just as described earlier. The D30 is the only player at this level of price/image quality/features. Many feel it is worth the price for the return you get. Would we like it to be cheaper, sure. I just don't see any reason for Canon or the retailers to lower prices.

If I look in to my crystal ball I see D30 prices stay around $2000 - $2200 until there is a replacement on the way, and maybe even until said replacement is on the shelves.
--- - - -Valliesto

Really I mean it has been out for like years already --- - - -Valliesto

If you want to post that question, start a new thread, that's where it belongs, not in a discussion of D30 prices.

Peter Stewart

Why doesn't it belong here, and who says it doesn't belong here? This is a Canon SLR forum, not a D30 forum.

Personally I think the question is just as dumb as the question about D30 prices, but we're not prohibited from asking dumb questions. Or giving dumb answers either.

Peter Stewart said:

If you want to post that question, start a new thread, that's where
it belongs, not in a discussion of D30 prices.

Peter Stewart

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